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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/27 23:01:46
Subject: Re:Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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I may actually build an army of these to use as both marines and actually give the Warpath rules a serious go.
I hear Warpath 2.0 is being written now.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 00:15:44
Subject: Re:Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
On an Express Elevator to Hell!!
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Yes the rules are available for download now if you do a google search for them, I believe they first came with the Newsletter. At the moment they are the 'skirmish' rules, which are set up to use for fewer miniatures, but apparently both that and the 'mass battle game' will be playable when the final rules are released. They are taking feedback on those rules at the moment.
And don't worry about Nkelsch. He is just being scurrilous, and comes to throw to the thread to throw the occasional hand grenade now and then. He would say the same if the model was a perfect representation of the Adonis, made from diamonds and white gold, and god himself had come down from the heavens to place it in his hand personally. He loves Mantic really!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 00:47:45
Subject: Re:Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Lets do this rather nice model justice and get all the pictures up for everyone to enjoy.
Here you go:
Now we just need some female Enforcer troops and alternative HQ.
And don't worry about Nkelsch. He is just being scurrilous, and comes to throw to the thread to throw the occasional hand grenade now and then. He would say the same if the model was a perfect representation of the Adonis, made from diamonds and white gold, and god himself had come down from the heavens to place it in his hand personally. He loves Mantic really!
If you want to check out some real hard-core Mantic lover's Pacific pop on over to BellofLostSouls. Their Speedball artical was great they even took the time to alter the preview images to show their love.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 00:55:04
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Wraith
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Not sure I like the asymmetrical helmet on that smaller one, and the knee looks a bit wonky, but that could just be the angle.
Overall, though, I think they're brilliant. Well done, Mantic!
Now just don't screw them up with a horrible paint job and gakky photography like every single other miniature you've put up. :\
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 01:11:16
Subject: Re:Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Fixture of Dakka
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Pacific wrote:Yes the rules are available for download now if you do a google search for them, I believe they first came with the Newsletter. At the moment they are the 'skirmish' rules, which are set up to use for fewer miniatures, but apparently both that and the 'mass battle game' will be playable when the final rules are released. They are taking feedback on those rules at the moment.
And don't worry about Nkelsch. He is just being scurrilous, and comes to throw to the thread to throw the occasional hand grenade now and then. He would say the same if the model was a perfect representation of the Adonis, made from diamonds and white gold, and god himself had come down from the heavens to place it in his hand personally. He loves Mantic really! 
Um.. multiple people have pointed out the models have serious issues and again don't live up the concept art. We shouldn't HAVE to like them because they are cheap and they shouldn't look inferior because they are cheap.
You can hardly say those wonky-knee, wrong proportioned models are perfect and painting hyperbole to say they are doesn't help.
They are pretty good models, but they have flaws and failed to match the concept art.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 02:59:56
Subject: Re:Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Rolt wrote:
Now we just need some female Enforcer troops and alternative HQ.
The background on their website specifically states that there are no female Enforcers.
They do also have a short story about a female Rebel, featuring "Two dicks" the Orc, though, so Mantic is definitely keeping equal opportunity in mind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 03:43:23
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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I read the fluff, apparently they will only subject men to the process of making Enforcers, (Could it be that they do have some redeeming qualities in Corporate space?) And, unlike the Imperium, they are not afraid to incorporate alien tech to arm these guys to the teeth!
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 03:50:06
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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If only a rare few have the genetic capacity to be turned into enforcers the maybe the gene(s) are on the male only Y chromosome.
but then again maybe mantic think female figures would not sell to the masses and this is a way of avoiding them
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 03:51:17
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Rogue Inquisitor with Xenos Bodyguards
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:If only a rare few have the genetic capacity to be turned into enforcers the maybe the gene(s) are on the male only Y chromosome.
but then again maybe mantic think female figures would not sell to the masses and this is a way of avoiding them
Either that or do not want to make man faced females?
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"Your mumblings are awakening the sleeping Dragon, be wary when meddling the affairs of Dragons, for thou art tasty and go good with either ketchup or chocolate. "
Dragons fear nothing, if it acts up, we breath magic fire that turns them into marshmallow peeps. We leaguers only cry rivets!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 06:41:57
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Unstoppable Bloodthirster of Khorne
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Sean_OBrien wrote:scipio.au wrote:The only thing I really dislike on these is their tiny thin knees. Knees should be wider than calves. Particularly armoured knees. (There is supposed to be a guy inside those suits, isn't there?)
Otherwise, liking them a lot.
Not if you use them. My calves are 17" around - my knees are a bit shy of 15"
The overall look is pretty good. The feet in the concept art look the part. The sculpted feet look a bit like high heeled swimming flippers though.
I'm not talking about standing around in your shorts, I'm talking about armoured warriors. Again, I'm basing this off real-world combatants (many of which would use their thighs more than you or I put together) who also wear knee protection. Look at that figure, I can't imagine how thin that guy's knees must be underneath the armour.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 13:28:27
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Pyre Troll
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OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:If only a rare few have the genetic capacity to be turned into enforcers the maybe the gene(s) are on the male only Y chromosome.
but then again maybe mantic think female figures would not sell to the masses and this is a way of avoiding them
or they ask the women with the gene to birth them some babies to provide more guys with the gene
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 18:25:01
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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The New Miss Macross!
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greenskin lynn wrote:OrlandotheTechnicoloured wrote:If only a rare few have the genetic capacity to be turned into enforcers the maybe the gene(s) are on the male only Y chromosome.
but then again maybe mantic think female figures would not sell to the masses and this is a way of avoiding them
or they ask the women with the gene to birth them some babies to provide more guys with the gene
Or use women with Androgen Insensitivity Syndrome for the conversion. Either way, the model previewed here looks pretty darn cool except for the head. For some reason, it looks a bit too D&D warforged for me personally.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/28 19:24:04
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Ollanius Pius - Savior of the Emperor
Gathering the Informations.
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kenshin620 wrote:Reminds me of Mass Effect Cerberus. I do agree they could make some nice additions in sedition wars
That's actually exactly what I thought of when I had the images in my email yesterday.
I really like the Enforcers. They definitely are going on my list of "Stuff I'll Buy To Paint When I Have Free Monies."
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/30 10:58:08
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Really like the captain, but the troopers legs leave me cold. I hate the knees. I wear plate myself and the knee is a funny area to protect at the best of times, those just don't work for me, too vulnerable, skinny and just plane odd! I would like to bulk it a little more myself! Other then that looking nice!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 12:52:53
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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I really like the new models. Will they be plastic?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 13:02:30
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Restik, as it seems, vehicles are going to be resin.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 13:05:47
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Resin plastic for the strike team, metal for the hero, hybrid resin plastic/metal for the assault and suppression teams.
An army box containing 31 Enforcer models (20 strike, 5 assault, 5 suppression, and the captain) is up for pre-order for £50... I'd recommend going for that, the pricing on the assault and suppression teams is a bit high otherwise.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 13:36:45
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Lord of the Fleet
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I'd honestly be surprised if anything new from Warpath is normal plastic these days
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 17:13:34
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Pious Warrior Priest
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The Assault Enforcers:

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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 17:22:54
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Can't wait to see these painted!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 18:04:57
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Posts with Authority
I'm from the future. The future of space
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I've concluded from their knees that they must be cyborgs. Perhaps multiple limbs have been replaced. They could well be brains and spinal collumns inside robotic bodies.
The cyborg body replacement would explain why the genetic marker is all you need to be recruited. Sickly? Tiny and frail? Doesn't matter after the chopping and replacing gets done.
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Balance in pick up games? Two people, each with their own goals for the game, design half a board game on their own without knowing the layout of the board and hope it all works out. Good luck with that. The faster you can find like minded individuals who want the same things from the game as you, the better. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 18:27:33
Subject: Re:Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Dakka Veteran
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The Assault Enforcers do look pretty cool, the torso detail is great. Very tempted tp pick up the Deadzone VI boxset when it comes out.
Yeah I read the fluff for the Enforcers and Hadrors Promise the other day, its pretty good fluff overall and a nice change from GW's Grimdark( tm) fluff. Overall Mantics fluff is starting to remind me of Firefly/Riddick/Mass Effect Universes and its pretty cool to see both the xeno and human races living along side each other rather than being completely segulated, seems like the Corp's don't care who they screw over.
Still disapointed by the fact I can't have female Enforcers...grumble grumble.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 19:13:15
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Brigadier General
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nkelsch wrote:Are they supposed to be robots or people in suits? Seems like they make fine robots but don't look like people could be inside those....
...Captain looks great, but the arms seem wrong... But for them to be based off the person inside, they would need to be stubby as unless the human had a 65" chest his shoulders would be in the chest. (which means realistic model would have stubby arms) We are so used to broad-chest, Broad shoulders where a large beefy guy is a corpse in a robot that thinking about suits with people in them is weird.
A fair point, but sci-fi power armor with unrealistic proportions is pretty common. GW Terminators being an extreme example of unwearable armor, but SST Grizzly suits are equally improbable. It really comes down to whether you like the overall look. I think it looks pretty cool, but I don't need any more armored sci-fi humans, so I probably won't be buying.
On an unrelated issue, I think that Mantic really needs to find some way to get back to regular plastic miniatures. The plasti-resin figs are good and a pretty good deal, but they are only moderately less expensive than other companies options, and not nearly the amazing value that Mantic's earlier plastic kits were.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 19:50:52
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Phanobi
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Eilif wrote: On an unrelated issue, I think that Mantic really needs to find some way to get back to regular plastic miniatures. The plasti-resin figs are good and a pretty good deal, but they are only moderately less expensive than other companies options, and not nearly the amazing value that Mantic's earlier plastic kits were. Ah yes but the stuff Mantic is producing now is far better ( imo) that the older plastic kits. The level of detail has raised hugely so I am willing to pay a little more for them! I don't see the benefits of 'proper' plastic anyway, restic seems to work just as well for me. Those assault troops are fantastic! I think they look even better than the regular troopers, one of the knife things on the guy on the left looks a little bent but that could be due to the angle. All in all a very nice bunch of releases!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 19:53:13
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Pious Warrior Priest
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Eilif wrote:On an unrelated issue, I think that Mantic really needs to find some way to get back to regular plastic miniatures. The plasti-resin figs are good and a pretty good deal, but they are only moderately less expensive than other companies options, and not nearly the amazing value that Mantic's earlier plastic kits were.
Their latest sprue was made in China (the goblins), and the quality on it is good, so it looks like they've now found a new manufacturer for plastic sprues. My guess is that the unit was a tester piece to make sure the company could deliver quality and also reliably supply them.
No idea which company it is, although we can definitely rule out WGF now that that company is owned by the toolmaker, they're not going to want to make stuff for their competition.
Once the kickstarter stuff is out of the way, we might see more sprues next year. I agree that I preferred their older release schedule where they'd only release 1 kit every 2 months or so, but it would always be plastic.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 19:58:37
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Commander Cain wrote:[
Ah yes but the stuff Mantic is producing now is far better (imo) that the older plastic kits. The level of detail has raised hugely so I am willing to pay a little more for them! I don't see the benefits of 'proper' plastic anyway, restic seems to work just as well for me.
I agree that the new kits are great, but nothing about them couldn't be done in regular plastic. The difference is that they'd probably be cheaper.
Restic isn't really any worse, but it doesn't seem to have any properties that make it superior to "regular" plastic from a model perspective. The only advantage seems to be that it allows Mantic to bring more units to market faster. As Scartletsquig said, I'd rather see cheaper models come out slower rather than more expensive models coming out faster.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 20:12:16
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Lord of the Fleet
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Eilif wrote:
I agree that the new kits are great, but nothing about them couldn't be done in regular plastic. The difference is that they'd probably be cheaper.
Restic isn't really any worse, but it doesn't seem to have any properties that make it superior to "regular" plastic from a model perspective. The only advantage seems to be that it allows Mantic to bring more units to market faster. As Scartletsquig said, I'd rather see cheaper models come out slower rather than more expensive models coming out faster.
Restic holds about as much detail as metal. Thats a plus
Though I would think that the best compromise would be that "main troops" would be plastic and specialists/vehicles would be restic
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 20:38:07
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Utilizing Careful Highlighting
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these are a must for me and luckly they have been designed by the same chap who did the samaritan troopers for sedition wars so will mesh in with these when i come to build my army '
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 22:55:40
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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kenshin620 wrote:
Restic holds about as much detail as metal. Thats a plus
Though I would think that the best compromise would be that "main troops" would be plastic and specialists/vehicles would be restic
Good point. However, as nice as they are (and they are nice), none of the Corporation troops I've seen have detailing so fine that it couldn't be done as well in plastic.
I think your compromise is a good one though. Hopefully there will be some plastic released coming up.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2012/07/31 23:33:29
Subject: Mantics Warpath - The Ongoing News and Rumors Thread
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Phanobi
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CURNOW wrote:these are a must for me and luckly they have been designed by the same chap who did the samaritan troopers for sedition wars so will mesh in with these when i come to build my army '
They have? No wonder I thought they shared some similarities!
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