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The Guild is pretty awesome, and most of my friends never heard of it.

Check it out! Extremely addictive game!

So... I just went through this whole thing, and first, a few responses:

Clive Barker's the Undying was fun.

Eternal Darkness: Described to me as the only reason you'll ever need to want to buy a Gamecube. He was absolutely right.

CoC: Dark Corners of the Earth: Not to rag too hard on you guys, but how can anyone like that game? I never even lived long enough to get to a damn gun. The whole run down the endless hallway, shove up obstacles and keep running from the fishmen... it was heinous.

Atlus is one of the best gaming companies in the world. I love the entire Shin Megami Tensei series, as well as some of its other works (enjoy eternal poison quite a bit).

Sierra was also amazing in its day. Loved Lords of the Realm 2 and Lords of Magic. Still Have LoM:SE. Also as a plug because none of you have mentioned it yet: Betrayal at Krondor was also done by this wonderful studio. Betrayal at Antara also came out of Sierra, but I don't remember it that well. Same with Lands of Lore: Guardians of Destiny.

Really enjoyed Alpha Centauri. But then, I think the only Sid Meier game I wasn't big on was Colonization.

Kudos to the guy who brought up the Microprose titles: Master of Orion 1-3... good stuff. Particularly 2. Though my favorite title by them (picked up DosBOX just so I can still play it) is Master of Magic, which arguably inspired not only Lords of Magic, but also Magic: The Gathering.

That said, I too, still own a copy of Phantom Dust.

The Legacy of Kain and Blood Omen franchises were both glorious. If they ever announced an open sandbox game for Nosgoth, I would so be there.

Never got to play fallout: tactics. That said, it is the only fallout game I haven't played.

KOEI was another big time company for me in my childhood and still is to this day. I've owned every Nobunaga's Ambition title, played Romance of the Three Kingdoms 2, 3, and 4, Gemfire (really wish they'd do what they did with Inindo in that setting. It'd be sooooo good), and let's not forget one of the titles that began it all: Destiny of an Emperor. The RPG precursor to the Romance of the Three Kingdoms games. I still enjoy some of their more contemporary games as well, though probably the KOEI title I liked least was Operation: Winback. Just not really my style of game.

Anyways, on to the bulk of games I loved that none of you have mentioned.

The entire Wizardry Franchise. I know like three people besides me who have played *any* of these games.

The Majesty games. I know like five people who have played them ever.

Forgotten Realms: Demon Stone. An epic scale classic arcade game. How can you top fighting an ancient red dragon focused on you as both an army of Slaadi and an army of Githyanki fight over who gets to kill you and claim the silver sword inside you?

Machiavelli: The Prince/Merchant Prince 2. The only difference between the two is what would make it crash. Otherwise very solid games.

Rival Realms. Because how can you say no to an elvish ship whose response to an attack order is "Our guns will blow them"?

Mission Force: Cyberstorm. Great little mech turn-based strategy game. I also liked that they called them Hercs instead of Mechs. It always gave the impression of even the little ones being capable of herculean feats. I think I heard one of you say cyberstorm once, so maybe this one is a repeat.

Renegade: Battle for Jacob's Star. Fun, old-school piloting game. Mostly faded to obscurity because Tie Fighter and then Wing Commander were gobbling up all the space pilots around then.

And speaking of space pilots being gobbled: Homeworld. Fun, fun game. Not many people I know have played it. Grand soundtrack. Their version of Adagio for Strings is to die for.

Oh, right, also old and kinda obscure: The Star Control series. It was kinda arcadey-space combat, but the big selling point was the ongoing story. It put you in the middle of a space opera, essentially.

Also, to end this list on one of my favorite notes: Bethesda. Not Bethesda that is being forced to make The Elder Scrolls: Online, which I hope will rot and fail miserably, as they made it clear to all of its fans over its many years before being bought out they never wanted to turn any of their continuities into an MMO, and it scraps everything good and right about the whole franchise, but rather the Bethesda of the olden days. the Bethesda that gave you such games as The Elder Scrolls: Arena, The Elder Scrolls 2: Daggerfall, and The Elder Scrolls Adventures: Hammerfell. I would also like to throw in a nod to the add-on to Hammerfell, Battlespire, but the franchise was so obscure back in those days it flopped. It was their one and only attempt at making TES a multiplayer game. I was a fan of the series back then, and even I didn't hear about it 'till after it was pulled off shelves.

And now for two of the most hated games of all time according to many shows video game reviews, and both games I love.

Carmageddon: Carpocalypse Now. This game is still illegal in multiple countries just because they don't like the idea of someone driving a car over pedestrians.

The 7th Saga: I don't know why every game show/reviewer describes this game as insurmountably hard. It really isn't. It's long, sure. It has a ton of grinding, granted, but the game was fun, at least to me. I have played it to completion.

That's more or less it for me for now. My memory can be kinda wonky, so I'm sure I'll be back with more at some point.

Lego Rock Raiders - PS1.

Battle Construction Vehicles - PS2

Also, I was quite shocked and appalled at how many people I know online and in my group of friends who either had never played or never heard of:

Disgaea

If you haven't played or heard of the Disgaea series, please, get out of this thread.

Rysaer wrote:Lego Rock Raiders - PS1.

Battle Construction Vehicles - PS2

Also, I was quite shocked and appalled at how many people I know online and in my group of friends who either had never played or never heard of:

Disgaea

If you haven't played or heard of the Disgaea series, please, get out of this thread.

I found Rock Raiders much more enjoyable on the PC at the end of the day, still, fun game.

Game that I love and no has heard of/hates....
Starsiege.....enough said, nothing like exterminating Humanity as the Cybrids

 Ovion wrote:

Rysaer wrote:Lego Rock Raiders - PS1.

Battle Construction Vehicles - PS2

Also, I was quite shocked and appalled at how many people I know online and in my group of friends who either had never played or never heard of:

Disgaea

If you haven't played or heard of the Disgaea series, please, get out of this thread.

I found Rock Raiders much more enjoyable on the PC at the end of the day, still, fun game.

SHH! You'll wake up the PC VS console argument!

Also...Eldar Scrolls...Online? Heck no. One of my favourite things about Skyrim is that it hasn't given in to the rule of "everything must be online or else it will suck".

If this goes through I will NOT be happy. Ah well, there's always Final Fantasy...

Also, Gunmetal on the Xbox. OK, so it was a blatant Gundam clone (transforming robot jet suit thingy) and the levels were incredibly frustrating...But damn good fun.

 Squigsquasher wrote:

 Ovion wrote:

Rysaer wrote:Lego Rock Raiders - PS1.

Battle Construction Vehicles - PS2

Also, I was quite shocked and appalled at how many people I know online and in my group of friends who either had never played or never heard of:

Disgaea

If you haven't played or heard of the Disgaea series, please, get out of this thread.

I found Rock Raiders much more enjoyable on the PC at the end of the day, still, fun game.

SHH! You'll wake up the PC VS console argument!

Also...Eldar Scrolls...Online? Heck no. One of my favourite things about Skyrim is that it hasn't given in to the rule of "everything must be online or else it will suck".

If this goes through I will NOT be happy. Ah well, there's always Final Fantasy...

Also, Gunmetal on the Xbox. OK, so it was a blatant Gundam clone (transforming robot jet suit thingy) and the levels were incredibly frustrating...But damn good fun.

More a blatant macross clone I think...

That said, the Macross Xbox game was fun and hardly known too.

And I love my consoles, it's just that RTS style of game has never lent itself to consoles (I think I actually had both LRR on console and PC), hence the controls with a mouse were much more enjoyable.

It's like if Halo Wars! was ever released on PC, I'd be all over that in a heartbeat.

Has anyone mentioned Duke Nukem Manhattan Project yet?
I just added that one to the OP.

Skies Of Arcadia for dreamcast was a good JRPG, unfortunately the DC was in the process of dying when it came out; it did see a release on Gamecube though.

On the subject of Gamecube there's Resident Evil remake - an excellent reworking of the first game which keeps enough of the original to be familiar, but has sufficient changes to be fresh. Resident Evil Zero was made with a similar mold but suffered from a misjudged item management system and a somewhat out of place villain.

Homeworld was one of my favorites. I really hope THQ makes a Homeworld 3

Also, gotta say that outside the 40k community, have rarely met a soul who even knows what Space Marine is

Skies Of Arcadia for dreamcast was a good JRPG, unfortunately the DC was in the process of dying when it came out; it did see a release on Gamecube though.

On the subject of Gamecube there's Resident Evil remake - an excellent reworking of the first game which keeps enough of the original to be familiar, but has sufficient changes to be fresh. Resident Evil Zero was made with a similar mold but suffered from a misjudged item management system and a somewhat out of place villain.

Skies of Arcadia was a good game , I agree. I also agree the RE remake was good.

Homeworld was one of my favorites

This was the game that made me buy a pc to play games on. The very first game I learned what a mod was too, I think it was a Babylon 5 mod.

Supreme with cheese. Indie action game with cutesy graphics but devilish puzzles.

Super Monday Night Combat- tis a fun game filled with TF2 esque humor and pure undiluted carnage also churos and juice boxes!

I know the Disgaea games. ^_^

Any of you ever played Lunar?

I had the one on sega cd, loved it. Long game if I remember correctly.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Ever played a game that you really enjoyed and thought it was pretty awesome, but no one else seems to like it due to obscurity, bad reviews, etc?
Well, I've played a handful of such games that I thought were pretty good, and yet just didn't seem to gain the recognition of being good games from others.

These games are:

Spoiler:

Bloodrayne,
Dark Reign
Blood
Arx Fatalis.
Undying
Bloodrayne 2
System shock 2
Perhaps all of the old Fallout games (prior to Fallout 3, I didn't even know the series existed.)
X-COM (the old ones)
Ground Control
Divine Divinity
Duke Nukem Manhattan Project

What about dakka dakka? What games have you played that you think are underrated or at least deserve more than obscurity?

I don't want to be "that guy" but somebody has to say it.
Many positions on this list have absolutely nothing with games that "didn't gain the recognition of being good games" or "no-one else seems to like or have even heard of".
This list is honestly terrible.

System shock 2 bad or having bad recognition? You mean SS2 - one of the best games ever created? A little quote from wiki:
"The title has been inducted into a number of features listing the greatest games ever made, including ones by GameSpy, Edge, IGN, GameSpot and PC Gamer. SHODAN has proven to be a popular character among some critics, including IGN, GameSpot and The Phoenix."
The game that spawned Bioshock?

Fallout games? Again, what?
"Fallout has been inducted into "Hall of Fame" or equivalent of Computer Gaming World, GameSpot, GameSpy and IGN"
This is absolutely legendary game.

X-COM? THE most appraised and known turn based squad game? The one that spawned numerous fan based games? That has not one but two games named after it in the development / near release right now?

Those three are milestones in video gaming history. Other may not be as known but there are several that were quite widely known and liked.
"Underrated", "deserve more than obscurity" next to some of those games? No, just no.
/End rant

 Macok wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Ever played a game that you really enjoyed and thought it was pretty awesome, but no one else seems to like it due to obscurity, bad reviews, etc?
Well, I've played a handful of such games that I thought were pretty good, and yet just didn't seem to gain the recognition of being good games from others.

These games are:

Spoiler:

Bloodrayne,
Dark Reign
Blood
Arx Fatalis.
Undying
Bloodrayne 2
System shock 2
Perhaps all of the old Fallout games (prior to Fallout 3, I didn't even know the series existed.)
X-COM (the old ones)
Ground Control
Divine Divinity
Duke Nukem Manhattan Project

What about dakka dakka? What games have you played that you think are underrated or at least deserve more than obscurity?

I don't want to be "that guy" but somebody has to say it.
Many positions on this list have absolutely nothing with games that "didn't gain the recognition of being good games" or "no-one else seems to like or have even heard of".
This list is honestly terrible.

System shock 2 bad or having bad recognition? You mean SS2 - one of the best games ever created? A little quote from wiki:
"The title has been inducted into a number of features listing the greatest games ever made, including ones by GameSpy, Edge, IGN, GameSpot and PC Gamer. SHODAN has proven to be a popular character among some critics, including IGN, GameSpot and The Phoenix."
The game that spawned Bioshock?

Fallout games? Again, what?
"Fallout has been inducted into "Hall of Fame" or equivalent of Computer Gaming World, GameSpot, GameSpy and IGN"
This is absolutely legendary game.

X-COM? THE most appraised and known turn based squad game? The one that spawned numerous fan based games? That has not one but two games named after it in the development / near release right now?

Those three are milestones in video gaming history. Other may not be as known but there are several that were quite widely known and liked.
"Underrated", "deserve more than obscurity" next to some of those games? No, just no.
/End rant

Look at the thread title. It says "that no-one else seems to like or have even heard of."

Not one person who I've met knew what System Shock 2 was, or what X-COM was, or what Fallout was. Was its because they were underrated? No, as you said they were classics.
Are they obscure to the point that hardly anyone remembers them? Yes, yes they are.

Those opening statements were just examples to be used in conjunction with the thread title.
I have never called SS2 bad. If it were bad, then I wouldn't like it, now would I? In fact, I bloody love that game. Please don't misinterpret what I say.
Is it hardly remembered though? Well, maybe except for a cadre of fans and the odd review site who decides to throw it a bone once in a while, yeah, I would say it is.

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Look at the thread title. It says "that no-one else seems to like or have even heard of."

Not one person who I've met knew what System Shock 2 was, or what X-COM was, or what Fallout was. Was its because they were underrated? No, as you said they were classics.
Are they obscure to the point that hardly anyone remembers them? Yes, yes they are.

I disagree again. Strongly. No, they are not. They may be to you and your group but not to the wider gaming community. That is not "hardly anyone".
I didn't just put Bioshock and current two X-COM games by accident. You named Fallout 3. If "hardly anyone remembers them" why do producers go and grab their names so shamefully? Because they ARE famous and recognizable.
People do remember them, maybe you're just too young? This is not a personal attack. I'm genuinely surprised that those three games may not have been noticed by someone who was a gamer ~5 or ~10 years ago.
A horror/shooter, a strategy game and RPG cover huge part of gaming genres. If you were interested in any of those there is a high change you would have heard about those games when they were relatively new .
If you are too young to remember those then simply any recognisable and famous older game will be "obscure to the point that hardly anyone remembers them". Even more so than those listed. So any game past some time would fall into this category?
Do you play only console games? I'm seriously puzzled.
But believe me. You'd have a very hard time finding someone who was a PC gamer 10 years ago and don't remember any of those.

 Macok wrote:

 CthuluIsSpy wrote:
Look at the thread title. It says "that no-one else seems to like or have even heard of."

Not one person who I've met knew what System Shock 2 was, or what X-COM was, or what Fallout was. Was its because they were underrated? No, as you said they were classics.
Are they obscure to the point that hardly anyone remembers them? Yes, yes they are.

I disagree again. Strongly. No, they are not. They may be to you and your group but not to the wider gaming community. That is not "hardly anyone".
I didn't just put Bioshock and current two X-COM games by accident. You named Fallout 3. If "hardly anyone remembers them" why do producers go and grab their names so shamefully? Because they ARE famous and recognizable.
People do remember them, maybe you're just too young? This is not a personal attack. I'm genuinely surprised that those three games may not have been noticed by someone who was a gamer ~5 or ~10 years ago.
A horror/shooter, a strategy game and RPG cover huge part of gaming genres. If you were interested in any of those there is a high change you would have heard about those games when they were relatively new .
If you are too young to remember those then simply any recognisable and famous older game will be "obscure to the point that hardly anyone remembers them". Even more so than those listed. So any game past some time would fall into this category?
Do you play only console games? I'm seriously puzzled.
But believe me. You'd have a very hard time finding someone who was a PC gamer 10 years ago and don't remember any of those.

Hmmm, you may have a point there. I was a child during X-com's, fallout's and SS2's release, so that may have been why. I might remove them from the list after all.
And no, I am a PC gamer. Strict, PC gamer in fact. I do not have a console, nor do I intend on acquiring one.

I downloaded Super Monday Night Combat, it refuses to start. Whenever I try starting it, it briefly shows the "preparing to launch" tab and says something about first time set up...And then shuts and doesn't start.

What can I do to fix this? I want my Triclops hat!

 zman111 wrote:
Super Monday Night Combat- tis a fun game filled with TF2 esque humor and pure undiluted carnage also churos and juice boxes!

Honestly I think SMNC could've been a great alternative to TF2, but now TF2 is free to play. I mean, at this point there's literally zero point to playing a free knockoff of TF2 when TF2 is (in my opinion) much better, more polished, and now also free.

Hmm, a lot of mine rank as "no one has even heard of" because I was, oddly, a mac gamer during the early/mid 90's (the playing field was kind of a desert back then). So most of these were fairly popular on Mac but barely registered as a blip in mainstream gaming. The first is Marathon (and really the whole trilogy) by Bungie as well as the first and second Myth games (also by Bungie). I think Myth 2 and the second Marathon were released for PC (and I think Myth 2 actually achieved some level of popularity as well). But Marathon's second instalment came around the same time as Quake so it was barely noticed because it was still sporting slightly crisper Doom-level graphics.

The other big one is Escape Velocity (and more so its sequel Override, which even other Mac gamers seemed to ignore). Only the third one was ever released for PC, but the game was already kind of on the old school side when that one came around and never achieved much other than becoming a cult classic. This one was a marvelous mixture of Elite-style space trading/fighting but with a 2D arcade look to it.

Then I have one that I almost never hear about anymore, Terminus. It was one of the few space fighter games I have ever played that had full Newtonian physics implemented. This made it really hard to play but loads of fun.

Pride of Nations
Crusader Kings 2

Myth.

Awesome game, very underrated.

Myth was popular on PC games. Both games were released on PC and very popular at the time.

Myth and Myth 2 were amazing. I still get trashed and listen to the youtube narrator clips. It's very Black Company.