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I'm thinking of ditching LF's entirely and contemplating 6 full GH squads in pods, with a 7th pod of WG with various loadouts led by a RP for 1600

Thoughts on this? I am rolling dice on it against various units and I don't seem to have the killing power I am looking for either in shooting or CC with 2x dual melta, 2x dual plasma and 2x dual flamer (4 coming down T1).

I also made points for MotW or a power weapon in the squads but again am not finding they have that much killing power, even a MotW guy with banner up getting rolling a 6 for attacks only kills 1-2 MEQ and the rest of the squad is also not faring much better (not by math but averaging a few dice rolls). Should I put that 90 points into something else?

Thoughts on improving this short of throwing IG in the mix??

 More Dakka wrote:
I'm thinking of ditching LF's entirely and contemplating 6 full GH squads in pods, with a 7th pod of WG with various loadouts led by a RP for 1600

Thoughts on this? I am rolling dice on it against various units and I don't seem to have the killing power I am looking for either in shooting or CC with 2x dual melta, 2x dual plasma and 2x dual flamer (4 coming down T1).

I also made points for MotW or a power weapon in the squads but again am not finding they have that much killing power, even a MotW guy with banner up getting rolling a 6 for attacks only kills 1-2 MEQ and the rest of the squad is also not faring much better (not by math but averaging a few dice rolls). Should I put that 90 points into something else?

Thoughts on improving this short of throwing IG in the mix??

If you're going that route, go Loganwing. Now each pod has seven combi weapons in it (or ten, whatever) instead of 2 specials. Increases the T1/T2 damage output considerably. Make the seventh pod Long Fangs and put Logan there (Relentless)

OK so 6 units of 6 WG with combis, 6 of them are TDA w/PWs in Pods + Logan.

Now I need 1 more Pod to make it sexy, and I was thinking a LF squad with Multi Meltas, works out to like 1596.

How's that? Compared to 6 units of GH at 10 men each + pods + a unit of TDA WG with a RP??

 More Dakka wrote:
OK so 6 units of 6 WG with combis, 6 of them are TDA w/PWs in Pods + Logan.

Now I need 1 more Pod to make it sexy, and I was thinking a LF squad with Multi Meltas, works out to like 1596.

How's that? Compared to 6 units of GH at 10 men each + pods + a unit of TDA WG with a RP??

I run it 6 PA and 1 TDA, 42 combi weapons (well a few heavy flamers), and then one TDA WG with Cyclones breaks off to join the Long Fangs. That also let's me run two RPs. But either way, it's more devastating than GHs.

Ok, if I were to stick with GH but beef them out a bit would anyone suggest MotW over say a Power Axe? Been running the numbers and they seem about on par even with better than average MotW attack rolls.

Thoughts?

 More Dakka wrote:
Ok, if I were to stick with GH but beef them out a bit would anyone suggest MotW over say a Power Axe? Been running the numbers and they seem about on par even with better than average MotW attack rolls.

Thoughts?

MotW wins out in my opinion, especially when you blow your standard.
However, if you have the points; why not both?

It's an either/or kinda thing given the current list, plus I am leading my GH wtih TDA WG with power axes already so at least there is some consistent AP2 even if it's challengable.

 More Dakka wrote:
Ok, if I were to stick with GH but beef them out a bit would anyone suggest MotW over say a Power Axe? Been running the numbers and they seem about on par even with better than average MotW attack rolls.

Thoughts?

Mark of the Wulfen is superior to a power weapon. You have the possibility of more base attacks at initiative 4 and rending can make them AP2. Furthermore, against vehicles or high toughness monsters (expect to see a lot more T8 wraithlords now Codex : Eldar is out), rending is vastly superior to a power axe. MotW can kill Rhinos. A power axe cannot. In order to wound a T8 wraithlord, you need a minimum strength of 6, or rending. A power axe won't cut it.

Ah this is true, at least MotW can get rends against much tougher opponents.

Thanks I have shoved one into each of my GH squads