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None of the vanilla trasports can carry more than 8.
Even before 6th vanilla transports couldn't.

Anyone else been eyeing up the caestus ram to deliver your second wave of assault death wing?

Now that I have my copy I have to say I am pleased that my army doesn't have to change at all if I don't want it to. The options are all still valid in the new list. I like that I don't need to change anything, of course after the CSM codex faq I wouldn't have had to change my nurgle termies either, but made the changes before the faq came out.

Noticing one thing in the new CSM and DA books, though, that is bugging me. All of the characters that allow you to use different elite and fast attack units as troops only apply to the primary detachment, not the allied detachement. So no way to play those specialized forces as allies. No Belial with 2 untis of deathwing as an allied attachment or a khorne lord with multiple units of khorne berserkers. That specialized force has to be your main force instead. :\

Skriker

Anyone check the FAQ for it yet? The darkshroud got nerfed already it lost stealth. They must not want to sell that model or something because a. It's hideous, b. they already killed its 2+ turbo boost cover save.

 michaelcycle wrote:
Anyone check the FAQ for it yet? The darkshroud got nerfed already it lost stealth. They must not want to sell that model or something because a. It's hideous, b. they already killed its 2+ turbo boost cover save.

The Stealth was never intended, it was an accident. It still grants Stealth to nearby units, and it still can get a 2+ from turbo boosting. Jink(5)+Shrouding+2 (3)+1(2) for Turbo-boosting.

So here is a question, does the vengeance roll 1 or 3 dice when firing the 3 shot plasma cannon? Either way I'm gonna rock one,it looks too cool not to

 Formosa wrote:
So here is a question, does the vengeance roll 1 or 3 dice when firing the 3 shot plasma cannon? Either way I'm gonna rock one,it looks too cool not to

I would say 3, just like a Heavy Bolter is Heavy 3 and shoots 3 as well. Unless I am missing something?

It's either 3 shots (3 regular dice), or one blast (scatter die +2d6- BS)

The FAQ consists almost entirely of mistakes that were already fixed in the digital version but were caught after it went to print.

Edit: One FAQ I was expecting and didn't get: Ezekiel's Traitor's Bane is listed as two-handed in the book, but it wasn't in the 4th edition. It seems rather silly to make the weapon 2-handed anyway, since I don't know of any 2-handed force swords and he still has his master-crafted bolt pistol.

Thanks for the clarification sasori! I was under the impression that shrouded was only +1 for some reason.
Anyone contacted gw about the print error to see if they're reprinting it any time soon? If so we should be compensated for their blatant errors in this book. For $50 a book that's a bunch of bs.

I agree mike, I will ask my local gw manager if he knows if it will be redone any time soon.

As to the vengeance, thats kinda what I thought, gonna be babysitting it with my ravenwing command sqauds and liby with the 4%+ field. While I'm here though, how does this look

Sammy

6 bikes, attack bike with mm, typhoon speeder

6 bikes, attack bike with mm, typhoon speeder

Darkshroud with assault cannon

Darkshroud with assault cannon

Nephilim with mega bolter

Command squad
Dakka banner, ravenwing grenade launcher. Apothecary

Liby, level 2 div, bike, staff, auspex, power field

Land speeder vengeance

This list is just so I can test stuff out, I know the command squad is easy to kill, hence maxing out it's survivability.