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Somewhere in south-central England.

 AndrewC wrote:
Sorry to be the one to cast doubt, but if everyone here is fully accepting that this C&D is ficticious and sent with the intent of fraud, how can anyone accept the information in it as 100% accurate?

Cheers

Andrew

PS Just playing devils advocate here, look before you leap.


According to Resin Forge's Facebook page they employed the so-called law firm that sent it. In other words it wasn't sent as a fraud, it was sent to make Yakface take the thread down.

If there are any fictitious elements to the letter you would need to ask Resin Forge about them.



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At the risk of receiving another inappropriate PM on my warseer account from RF alluding to police rapports as happened less than 20 minutes after I posted in the original warning thread, I would just like to point out that fabrication of legal documents of any kind is considered a severe crime, at least in Denmark, and is often sidelined with acts of physical assault and murder in terms of conviction in a court of law (again this is at least the case in Denmark) and I have a distinct feeling that this is not looked upon lightly in the United States either.

So if this is indeed a proved beyond doubt to be a false C&D letter I would say it is the receivers moral obligation as a citizen to report this to their local and/or federal agencies as this is no light matter indeed.

Again I have no involvement in this case except for my last comment and the rather weird personal reply to it I received, but I can only hope that those afflicted by the actions/misdeeds of this man and his affiliates(be they real or fictional) takes proper legal actions.




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Biloxi, MS USA

Interesting that a company would feel the need to essentially taunt people into calling them.

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Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
I make this post only with the warning that the lawyer and the accountant I share an office with handle claims that mostly deal with the medical field. I also had to out myself as a gamer to do this. I talked to the lawyer about the C&D and he says it is probably one of the worst fakes he has seen. He said “I could do better during my lunch.” I talked to the accountant and the owner of Resin Forge would be liable for any passed business dealings if he didn’t separate himself from the company. Using a supplier database I use for my job as an inventory specialist at a large surgical hospital I am able to search for legitimate businesses. I do this due to the fact that companies some not legit at all send large hospital bills all the time. I can’t find any company registered for a tax ID in the United States called Resin Forge. No tax ID normally means no legit business. If that’s the case its fraud, plain and simple.


He claimed in emails to me that "He needed to make 10k in profit before having to register with the IRS and get an FID or DBA". Which as I recall, the 10k minimum is for personal reporting only, not for businesses, and ALL legal retailers in Texas and likely every other state are required to register DBA's within 30-90 days of opening.

He has done none of these.

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Birmingham, UK

 Platuan4th wrote:
Interesting that a company would feel the need to essentially taunt people into calling them.


It's like that Carly Rae Jepsen song, only riddled with desperation and fraud.

EDIT: *alleged* fraud.

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 Aerethan wrote:
Duerkop advice
xxxxxx
Tel: xxxxxxxxx

From said archived page.

Any german users care to look into that. Either way, I'd ignore a C&D from any "company" whose web site disappears 24 hours later.


Can this be edited, the person who owns that number claims to have nothing to do with any of this

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MarkyMark wrote:

Can this be edited, the person who owns that number claims to have nothing to do with any of this


But I guarantee that they now hate Resinforge.
   
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So he's reading, but being very selective about what he replies to. If I was a legitimate business owner I might want to address claims that my law firm was bogus and the contact person for said firm was disavowing any knowledge Resin Forge, and my business wasn't properly registered.


Resin Forge Store That is a good point but when we take the steps with a valid phone that we are here, ready to anwser, to correct any of the 'claims' made and no one takes us up on it except (see Below)

We just realized who called with call block and asked for "Eric" to clearly test out number or some other non sense -

Aerethan wrote:
"Side note, the person who answers is the same person who tried to get me fired. Don't think I'll forget that voice anytime soon. "

Resin Forge Store Funny we did just get 1 call with someone asking for Eric. That's beyond odd so we assume its simply a misdial and not someone calling to just check the number. They did call with *67 as well too.

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Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

MarkyMark wrote:
 Aerethan wrote:
Duerkop advice
xxxxxx
Tel: xxxxxxxxx

From said archived page.

Any german users care to look into that. Either way, I'd ignore a C&D from any "company" whose web site disappears 24 hours later.


Can this be edited, the person who owns that number claims to have nothing to do with any of this


I have edited out the info, I was unaware it was current contact info for Mr. Duerkop.

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It looks like the britcons.com domain was hi jacked or something as it has been down for a year or so and owner is unaware of how or why it came back up

Was the email address the letter was recieved from a @britcons.com domain?

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Leerstetten, Germany

I find it interesting that experienced lawyers sending out C&D letters don't have any legal means to protect their companies website and prevent Lexicanum from shutting down their site by going "they used a template!"...
   
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Union, Kentucky United States

 Aerethan wrote:
 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
I make this post only with the warning that the lawyer and the accountant I share an office with handle claims that mostly deal with the medical field. I also had to out myself as a gamer to do this. I talked to the lawyer about the C&D and he says it is probably one of the worst fakes he has seen. He said “I could do better during my lunch.” I talked to the accountant and the owner of Resin Forge would be liable for any passed business dealings if he didn’t separate himself from the company. Using a supplier database I use for my job as an inventory specialist at a large surgical hospital I am able to search for legitimate businesses. I do this due to the fact that companies some not legit at all send large hospital bills all the time. I can’t find any company registered for a tax ID in the United States called Resin Forge. No tax ID normally means no legit business. If that’s the case its fraud, plain and simple.


He claimed in emails to me that "He needed to make 10k in profit before having to register with the IRS and get an FID or DBA". Which as I recall, the 10k minimum is for personal reporting only, not for businesses, and ALL legal retailers in Texas and likely every other state are required to register DBA's within 30-90 days of opening.

He has done none of these.


It takes literally 10 minutes to register with any state as a S.P. There is no limit as to how much "profit" you have to make because if that was the case then most businesses would have to register for years because it takes years to get into the black. Now filling out the paperwork for an L.L.C that is entirely different and if your smart you just hire a law firm to handle it. The difference being every year you have to pay the state fee for the L.L.C (i.e I pay $500 a year to keep mine).

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MarkyMark wrote:
It looks like the britcons.com domain was hi jacked or something as it has been down for a year or so and owner is unaware of how or why it came back up

Was the email address the letter was recieved from a @britcons.com domain?


They hijacked his old website and then started using his name to run their business? Sounds as though he's been the victim of identity theft.
   
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czakk wrote:
So he's reading, but being very selective about what he replies to. If I was a legitimate business owner I might want to address claims that my law firm was bogus and the contact person for said firm was disavowing any knowledge Resin Forge, and my business wasn't properly registered.


Resin Forge Store That is a good point but when we take the steps with a valid phone that we are here, ready to anwser, to correct any of the 'claims' made and no one takes us up on it except (see Below)

We just realized who called with call block and asked for "Eric" to clearly test out number or some other non sense -

Aerethan wrote:
"Side note, the person who answers is the same person who tried to get me fired. Don't think I'll forget that voice anytime soon. "

Resin Forge Store Funny we did just get 1 call with someone asking for Eric. That's beyond odd so we assume its simply a misdial and not someone calling to just check the number. They did call with *67 as well too.


Kinda odd that a supposed reputable business would provide call by call update about their customer service line? Hardly seems professional or reputable, seems like the RF FB page is devolving into a child like logic of argument.
   
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Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

I love the classic Daniel move of ignoring questions he doesn't want to answer.

Why are Kim and Jason not on here? Why have we not heard from them?

I tell you what Resin Forge. You know damn well who I am. You know where I work. If Kim wants to call me, she's more than welcome to. Just ask the front desk to transfer you to me.

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BREAKING: Resin Forge accuses LEXICANUM of taking down their lawyer's homepage. Singlehandedly!

*dramatic pause*

We reached out to the Lexicanum and this is what they have to day: YES, we did indeed report the lawyer's page. You know to which institution? To the internet, we reported them to the internet and we are not ashamed. Nice that the Internet apparently immediately reacted and had that page taken down!

UPDATE: On further inquiry a representative of the Ordo Lexicanum was overheard uttering the following:
"Apparently. I am amazed by my powers. Thinking right now about which page to take down next" (followed by maniacal laughter, abruptely cut short by a bolter shot)



Lex apparently did not report the site and did not have it magically taken down
   
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Resin Forge are now accusing Lexicanum of taking down Resin Forge's German Lawyer's website...




 
   
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Lex could send a C&D for defamation back at them now.

   
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Idaho

 Aerethan wrote:
 Devoted-to-the-machine wrote:
I make this post only with the warning that the lawyer and the accountant I share an office with handle claims that mostly deal with the medical field. I also had to out myself as a gamer to do this. I talked to the lawyer about the C&D and he says it is probably one of the worst fakes he has seen. He said “I could do better during my lunch.” I talked to the accountant and the owner of Resin Forge would be liable for any passed business dealings if he didn’t separate himself from the company. Using a supplier database I use for my job as an inventory specialist at a large surgical hospital I am able to search for legitimate businesses. I do this due to the fact that companies some not legit at all send large hospital bills all the time. I can’t find any company registered for a tax ID in the United States called Resin Forge. No tax ID normally means no legit business. If that’s the case its fraud, plain and simple.


He claimed in emails to me that "He needed to make 10k in profit before having to register with the IRS and get an FID or DBA". Which as I recall, the 10k minimum is for personal reporting only, not for businesses, and ALL legal retailers in Texas and likely every other state are required to register DBA's within 30-90 days of opening.

He has done none of these.


10k is the personal amount though in state taxes this can differ (so I am told). I haven’t found anything to prove his company is actually legally a company. I do this sort of stuff for a living. Legit companies don’t hide their information. It’s normally a red flag for our finance department if they have a hard time finding what we call “pedigree information.” If my company was contacted in such away we wouldn’t have paid any mind to it.
If finance got a bill and needed to check inventory against claimed charges it would be sent to me. If I can’t find inventory for the claimed charges I would need to check other information like taxes. In this case I would need to know that taxes on our side of the inventory matched tax information on the requesting company’s side. If I can’t find tax information on a company I submit it normally as a fraudulent claim. I can’t find anything business tax related connected to him or his company.
Now my company being a large surgical hospital we got ourselves one of them PI firms too. I have had only minimal contact with them. Mostly my dealings with them are about illegitimate companies seeking compensation for services or items. They don’t have a website. They say the reason why is due to the fact that they don’t advertise publicly a service that is private. This company is large and very good (so I am told).



 
   
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So not only do they copy GW models, They also copy GW law practices too...



 
   
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Birmingham, UK

 n0t_u wrote:
Lex could send a C&D for defamation back at them now.


And through a legit German law firm!

*tag* you're it!

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kind of admiting that someone from resin forge did call you at work here Aerethan
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Lake Forest, California, South Orange County

 CURNOW wrote:
kind of admiting that someone from resin forge did call you at work here Aerethan


Oh I know. I've already got evidence out the back about Resin Forge calling me from Daniel's phone, which he used as Matthew Bonder back in 2009, claiming to be "Jason". At this point I'm not confident there is any such "Jason" person involved, and if there was I'd want photo ID proof at this point.

   
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It has to be said again. What kind of professional business discusses stuff like this on their Facebook? Even with no other history about this guy, that would be highly suspect.

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 pretre wrote:
It has to be said again. What kind of professional business discusses stuff like this on their Facebook? Even with no other history about this guy, that would be highly suspect.


I concur with the above.

 
   
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I'm finding it hard to keep up to be honest. Posts seem to be here in pictures and not on the FB page... Am I missing something or is this some form of censorship?

   
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Idaho

 pretre wrote:
It has to be said again. What kind of professional business discusses stuff like this on their Facebook? Even with no other history about this guy, that would be highly suspect.



They are not a legit buisness. I am making this claim personally. I am willing to givee my information to Daniel and he can try and sue me.



 
   
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The way he's acting I'd say he's about finished wringing the pennies out of this "business".

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TERRA

Lex could send a C&D for defamation back at them now.


We'd sure make up a better letter than the alleged Britcon guys. And actually "hate page" is indeed a defamation, just had that checked

   
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The company here us just a security consulting company. The signer is the CEO of that company. According to current law, there it's no legal action that may be taken by any sane lawyer.

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