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2015/10/14 17:31:41
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2015/10/21 07:33:18
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2015/10/21 13:54:34
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Can't wait to see that built!
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2015/10/21 19:21:41
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Death-Dealing Devastator
Tuebingen, Germany
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Hi. I like the crane a lot but see a problem with realism. I know you shouldn't overdo that in wargames terrain. It still irks me though that it not really possible for the crane to put the container on the flatbed on a truck for example. Or something such. Either the lift gets in the way or the supports between the legs are too low that a truck couldn't drive between them. Changing the supports between the legs so that a truck could drive between them would make the model much more believable and would be a not too difficuilt modification (I think). Still an awesome piece of kit and very playable with the lift and the plaform and the like.
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2015/10/21 19:47:35
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Flashy Flashgitz
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Oh. Pretty. Well done.
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2015/10/21 19:57:37
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Saphos wrote:Hi. I like the crane a lot but see a problem with realism. I know you shouldn't overdo that in wargames terrain. It still irks me though that it not really possible for the crane to put the container on the flatbed on a truck for example. Or something such. Either the lift gets in the way or the supports between the legs are too low that a truck couldn't drive between them. Changing the supports between the legs so that a truck could drive between them would make the model much more believable and would be a not too difficuilt modification (I think). Still an awesome piece of kit and very playable with the lift and the plaform and the like.
The legs look about wide enough for a truck of some kind. I think it would be clearer if we had a straight side shot.
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2015/10/21 20:03:22
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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Yeah, I have plenty of loading style trucks that would easily fit in there... but that doesn't even look like the way this is designed. IMO, it looks like a truck backs up (not between the legs of the crane) and the crane makes a stack of crates inside it's structure. Even better.. if you're doing a trainyard, the rails are beneath where the crate is pictured and the same thing I described happens. I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..
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2015/10/21 20:09:52
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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MLaw wrote:Yeah, I have plenty of loading style trucks that would easily fit in there... but that doesn't even look like the way this is designed. IMO, it looks like a truck backs up (not between the legs of the crane) and the crane makes a stack of crates inside it's structure. Even better.. if you're doing a trainyard, the rails are beneath where the crate is pictured and the same thing I described happens. I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..
We also may not be thinking futuristic enough. Maybe there's some sort of hover pallet that moves them around.
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2015/10/21 20:14:31
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Zealous Knight
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MLaw wrote: I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..
They keep shoving them in scenarios. Actually seeing trains on Infinity tables, not so much usually (train tracks have a nasty habit of dividing a table in two halves with a cover-starved no man's land in between - which makes for bad scenery for a system like infinity.)
Back to the crane: why does the grippy thing have to go all around the container? Seems like a fairly ineffective way to lift a container and put it down a few yards away? Don't such things usually look more like this, even on 'fixed' shore cranes etc?
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2015/10/21 20:38:25
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Crushing Black Templar Crusader Pilot
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Bolognesus wrote: MLaw wrote: I've heard Infinity has a thing for trains..
They keep shoving them in scenarios. Actually seeing trains on Infinity tables, not so much usually (train tracks have a nasty habit of dividing a table in two halves with a cover-starved no man's land in between - which makes for bad scenery for a system like infinity.)
Back to the crane: why does the grippy thing have to go all around the container? Seems like a fairly ineffective way to lift a container and put it down a few yards away? Don't such things usually look more like this, even on 'fixed' shore cranes etc?
Probably for the sake of a removable cargo crate. And since its made of wood or plastic.
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2015/10/21 20:49:52
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Swamp Troll
San Diego
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There's so many different designs for cranes. It honestly depends on what goes through them most often I would imagine.
You could also just imagine that in the future, stricter safety laws due to some made up incident from the year 2021 or whatever caused docks to become more stringent about their gripper claw things.
Or.. maybe the green aliens from Toy Story took over?
Either way, I think this is more about rule of cool. There's things made by a few other MDF companies like Oil Dereks or other types of crane that have major functionality problems built in but they look like what they're meant to represent and they don't cost a ridiculous amount like a model railroad piece would, so I'd chock it up to a win. Knowing Zen Terrain, it'll also likely be extremely affordable.
This could also solve the problem you mention about railroad tracks. IF you set up a rail with a loading and refueling station, you could have a few of these (one for each side of the track at least if not 2), a fuel pipeline, a huge storage tank, a maintenance shack, and maybe a storage shed or whatever.
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2015/10/21 22:13:13
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Norn Queen
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Oooff. That's a mighty find looking crane. Between that, the Police Station and the Biker bar, you've got my next few Infinity terrain purchases.
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2015/10/21 22:31:26
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Indeed. I'm hanging out for the police station too. I think this also just made the list.
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2015/10/21 22:47:16
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Norn Queen
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With that, a few warehouses like Sarissas Warhouse, little warehouse and TAG hangar, plus gantries, and you've got a great dock table.
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2015/10/21 23:28:53
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Just the crane and a million shipping boxes. Yeah, that could happen.
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2015/10/22 01:12:13
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Norn Queen
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Eeeehhh, not sure about that. Not a fan of shipping container boards.
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2015/10/22 01:33:29
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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It's a shame the XIXth Century warehouse from MAS is too obviously 19th century. It's fame would work really nicely as a dockside board with the likes of the crane.
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2015/10/23 13:38:43
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2015/11/08 22:13:37
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Norn Queen
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Love the command table. Excellent idea.
Any further estimates of when the Police Station will go up for sale?
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2015/11/09 11:14:04
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Trustworthy Shas'vre
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Still some time till they figured all issues out... luckily Xmas, but could also be later.
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2015/11/09 12:35:50
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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The Police Station is with the painters at the moment and it's almost done as well. It should not be more than a week or thereabouts.
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2015/11/10 02:12:42
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Norn Queen
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Most excellent, I'll have to organise an order.
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2015/11/15 22:01:47
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2015/11/16 20:44:11
Subject: ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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This terrain looks very nice and all that but the sci-fi terrain market is saturated atm. What we need is more fantasy terrain, ruined buildings, watch towers etc... Any plans on this front?
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2015/11/26 10:08:41
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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What we need is more fantasy terrain, ruined buildings, watch towers etc... Any plans on this front?
There will be something on the fantasy front coming very, very soon. Watch this space.
In the meantime, neon city signs available in the store now.
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This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2015/11/26 17:26:11
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2015/11/27 22:00:26
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2015/12/20 12:44:44
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2016/02/21 18:42:31
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2016/03/23 14:43:50
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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2016/03/25 16:47:15
Subject: Re:ZenTerrain - small company with big ideas
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Regular Dakkanaut
Poland
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A teaser of upcoming vehicle.
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