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 alextroy wrote:
I wouldn't assume that. Publishing a Hardback Codex probably takes longer than publishing a softback

Not appreciably. Especially not for the binding method GW uses for hardbacks- the pages are just glued* to a cloth strip, and the whole text block is attached to the case (the book covers) solely by the end pages. By contrast, the interior covers of the softbacks (like the indexes), are themselves printed material, which makes for a slightly more complicated process, depending on how they do it (hopefully they'd do front/back and inside covers as one document, and the codex contents as another document, but I can see them being contrary and treating the interior covers as pages 0 and 97 respectively. But any decent publisher would be angered by that approach, and explain why it is stupid)

*overglued, actually, considering how much excess glue appears at the top and bottom of several of my GW books, and I can actually see glue acting as filler between the back edge of page groups.

That means GW would have time to change the values between going to press.

Nope. Between printing time and shipping/travel time from China to distribution centers, both books would have been finalized 4-6 weeks ago.

I expect we will know for sure in 3 to 4 weeks.

We are definitely getting at least a Primaris upgrade kit? A saw a pic of the back of the new White Dwarf. It's a Primaris Marine with a winged blood drop chest, power sword with a basket hilt, and a new bare head. There's another Primaris chest with a winged chalice and one with one of those shoulder shields with a blood drop on it. Looks very cool!

 theharrower wrote:
We are definitely getting at least a Primaris upgrade kit? A saw a pic of the back of the new White Dwarf. It's a Primaris Marine with a winged blood drop chest, power sword with a basket hilt, and a new bare head. There's another Primaris chest with a winged chalice and one with one of those shoulder shields with a blood drop on it. Looks very cool!

That sounds great!

 theharrower wrote:
We are definitely getting at least a Primaris upgrade kit? A saw a pic of the back of the new White Dwarf. It's a Primaris Marine with a winged blood drop chest, power sword with a basket hilt, and a new bare head. There's another Primaris chest with a winged chalice and one with one of those shoulder shields with a blood drop on it. Looks very cool!

Saw how? Why are there no pics of this all over the internet?

 theharrower wrote:
We are definitely getting at least a Primaris upgrade kit? A saw a pic of the back of the new White Dwarf. It's a Primaris Marine with a winged blood drop chest, power sword with a basket hilt, and a new bare head. There's another Primaris chest with a winged chalice and one with one of those shoulder shields with a blood drop on it. Looks very cool!

Did you take the picture?

Also in Devastation of Baal - we will have the same 6 relics for vanila angels, reliquiary of amit for Flesh tearers, some Banner and armours for other successors.
At least according to a book/

"The Chapter Lords of the Blood watched in respectful quiet as the mightiest of their number went to stand at his place at the table. The artefacts his comrades carried – the blood, the feather, the standard, the ancient armours – were of the most sacred kind to all the Chapters of the Blood, but it was Dante’s gleaming, golden presence that held all their attention."

"After them servitors shepherded velvet padded grav-sleds bearing other relics: the sword Valour’s Edge, the plasma pistol Fury of Baal, Gallian’s Staff, the Angel’s Wing, the Crown Angelic, sitting easy upon a polished skull, and then the Veritas Vitae, the machine blessed enough to record the words of Sanguinius himself, then repeat them upon the field of battle."

 Crimson wrote:

 theharrower wrote:
We are definitely getting at least a Primaris upgrade kit? A saw a pic of the back of the new White Dwarf. It's a Primaris Marine with a winged blood drop chest, power sword with a basket hilt, and a new bare head. There's another Primaris chest with a winged chalice and one with one of those shoulder shields with a blood drop on it. Looks very cool!

Saw how? Why are there no pics of this all over the internet?

They'll drop soon enough. Didn't take a pic. Preorder is Dec 2th. Release is on the 9th.

 theharrower wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

 theharrower wrote:
We are definitely getting at least a Primaris upgrade kit? A saw a pic of the back of the new White Dwarf. It's a Primaris Marine with a winged blood drop chest, power sword with a basket hilt, and a new bare head. There's another Primaris chest with a winged chalice and one with one of those shoulder shields with a blood drop on it. Looks very cool!

Saw how? Why are there no pics of this all over the internet?

They'll drop soon enough. Didn't take a pic. Preorder is Dec 2th. Release is on the 9th.

thanks for the info! Something more news from the wd?

I'm curious to see if we get the standard 'classic' relics from the previous codex, or if we'll get a blend of the classics, plus some of them from the Angel's Blade supplement that are death company themed (and pretty cool also!)

Personally speaking, I'm just Glad Death Masks are a thing again. My captain always had one way back in 3rd edition and I was bummed to see it removed in the 5th edition codex (though to be fair, I never cared for that codex myself). I'm intensely curious to see how the Crown Angelc will work if it's retained in the new codex, as that's the relic I usually went with on my jump pack Captain, with the Veritas Vitae on my jump pack Librarian more often than not.

I'm ready for some rumors on Blood Angels to arrive. Fingers crossed we'll get something leading up to the 2nd preorder date if it holds to be true.

Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

I gave up hope that we will see any sneak peeks or previews this month.

p5freak wrote:
I gave up hope that we will see any sneak peeks or previews this month.

Well - White dwarf is leaking.
Consider pre-order date being December 2nd - I would assume that GW show some sneak peak in next week.

 Omega-soul wrote:

p5freak wrote:
I gave up hope that we will see any sneak peeks or previews this month.

Well - White dwarf is leaking.
Consider pre-order date being December 2nd - I would assume that GW show some sneak peak in next week.

Yea I suspect we'll get a week or so of previews for the week of Dec 2nd - Dec 9th, then Dark Angels will get a week following that before their codex releases before Christmas.

Each day will be something teased, character changes, strategems, relics, psychic powers, etc. each day.

We'll see. I'll be tapping my foot in the mean time. Take it easy.

-Red__Thirst-

That is no conversion kit, it's a full new model.

Wow. One whole new Chapter-specific model per 'Angels' army. Woo. Spoiling us.

I can't stop laughing at the Dark Angels head, what a smug looking bastard.

At least we finally get a Black Templar Primaris robe

Damn though was hoping for a BA Primaris sprue. Can't wait for the codex though, this WD has come up quick. BA are the faction I am probably most interested in finding out what they are up to at the moment, especially with the whole gigantic rift. That and I have a load of kits waiting for the codex drop.

Would have at least thought they'd have had a Primaris Chapter Sprue ready for this.

A useless Primaris Lieutenant who can't go in a rhino/razorback/land raider. Pathetic.

Hmmm. I kinda need that guy.

I really like him, he looks awesome! The artical also mentions that these are the first of the Primaris figures specific to them, so that sounds like there'll be more coming in the future. I do hope they announce an upgrade sprue as well, I'd love to get a Small force of BAngel Primaris, lead by a chaplain and that glorious Lieutenant

There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

WatcherZero wrote:
There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

Where was that said?

 Crimson wrote:

WatcherZero wrote:
There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

Where was that said?

I saw it. We get an upgrade kit as well as access to the Stormhawk, Hunter, and Stalker.

 theharrower wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

WatcherZero wrote:
There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

Where was that said?

I saw it. We get an upgrade kit as well as access to the Stormhawk, Hunter, and Stalker.

They'll hopefully announce this on Saturday then. With the chests you saw, did they have any cloth bits like loin cloths? Or was it just the winged blood drop/chalice designs? Also, did the bare head have a buzz cut or long hair?

 theharrower wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

WatcherZero wrote:
There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

Where was that said?

I saw it. We get an upgrade kit as well as access to the Stormhawk, Hunter, and Stalker.

I wonder - is it only stormhawk or there is also a stormtalon?
They come in 1 box, so i'am curious if GW gives access only to a one build

 Tiberius501 wrote:

 theharrower wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

WatcherZero wrote:
There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

Where was that said?

I saw it. We get an upgrade kit as well as access to the Stormhawk, Hunter, and Stalker.

They'll hopefully announce this on Saturday then. With the chests you saw, did they have any cloth bits like loin cloths? Or was it just the winged blood drop/chalice designs? Also, did the bare head have a buzz cut or long hair?

So I was wrong on the winged chalice. Was a grainy pic I was looking at. The upgrade kit is pretty much like the Ultramarine one with a chainsword and heavy bolt pistol and reliquaries instead of purity seals. I don't think there was a chest on there. I could be wrong. It's all in Saturdays White Dwarf.


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 Omega-soul wrote:

 theharrower wrote:

 Crimson wrote:

WatcherZero wrote:
There is supposed to be a Primaris upgrade sprue as well as the lieutenants.

Where was that said?

I saw it. We get an upgrade kit as well as access to the Stormhawk, Hunter, and Stalker.

I wonder - is it only stormhawk or there is also a stormtalon?
They come in 1 box, so i'am curious if GW gives access only to a one build

So that info came from the design commentary in White Dwarf. It's most likely both, but they mentioned the hawk and not the talon.

Yes. Only chainsword in the upgrade kit. They're really going to disallow BA Intercessors from taking power swords.

Well, the fact I have two Stalkers sitting in boxes right now just got a little less disappointing. And hopefully they can take a Stormtalon, since I have one of those on Sprue as well. Not that any of these will see play, but I still like having options.

Ah that sucks about the upgrade sprue, but at least we're still getting something. I'd die if they randomly announced a new Dante figure too, but that's never going to happen

I love him! Just starting working on a Tactical Squad too, they'll look great on the table together