Are the bolter beta rules going to become official?

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**Daedalus81**

Pleasestop wrote:

Also, to everyone whining about how weak these powers are -- everyone complains about how good Move Move Move is, so pick one. Is this power ideal for late turn objective grabbing, which is a huge part of winning the game in any format but ITC or is Move Move Move worthless because the game is only about killing stuff when playing ITC?

Or can we agree that it's somewhere in between? And that in most games This power/move move move has a place but isn't the be and end all of abilities?

There's a bit of space between MMM that works all the time for 30 points on up to 6 units (90 points) and MMM that has to succeed for 120 points on one unit.

That said it's a very useful spell.

**fraser1191**

Pain4Pleasure wrote:
fraser1191 wrote:
Pain4Pleasure wrote:
fraser1191 wrote:
I'll wait and see what all has the Phobos keyword. I figure it'll be more than these 3 kits for vanguard. DI had 3 unit types too, then later we got aggressors and reivers

The whole dang flock could have it. The powers won’t help at all.

After seeing that the box is all monopose and silly, leave me something to be optimistic about!

Edit: I know I plan on using hallucination on my friends riptide

You should be excited cause at least it’s something new for your army to use just hate when people make a huge deal as if it’s broken

I'm really excited for the rest of the release and hallucination. Infiltrate to 9" away from their zone(generally 21" to edge) , move 6, 18" range, potentially shut down one key unit.