kurhanik wrote:
This is beautifully put.
Also that interaction with nationalists sucks. All my bad experiences are from the context of being part of the "in" crowd, so they are happy to say the quiet part out loud. I can only imagine what it is like from being in the out group and having the 'quiet' part yelled at me.
Thanks dude. Just doing my bit to try to keep this thread on topic.
When the yelling bit happens, it's really kind of parasympathetic nervous system-y - your main concern is just getting somewhere safe. It's afterwards when the fight or flight switches off and you're left chewing over "what could I have done differently? Was there a more noble solution there? What if that happens again?" that I guess the emotions come on, too? I'm lucky enough to not have to live that every day. But I know people who do. And I guess it's frustrating to see when people are so happy to ignore the ongoing struggles of their fellow man when it comes to something as simple as walking down the street, or, in the case of this thread, trying to enjoy a good old bit of
40k.
fidel wrote:
Holy hell - this is... this is amazing. Sometimes there is a diamond response in the... uh... other responses that are attempting to disassociate or whataboutitsm. I wish I could legitimately give you an award.
Ahahaha, no award needed man. I feel like I was a bit dismissive in my first post in this thread, but, I think it's also been heartening to see just how many people here are saying "actually, no, this isn't right," and considering how things might change for the better. That has been good. I think there is a healthy spectrum of consensus when it comes to condemning this kind of behavior in our community, and I'm gladder for it.
Slipspace wrote:
I weep, for I have but one exalt to give.
The last two paragraphs are the ones all the whataboutists in this thread should probably reflect on. It's deeply depressing to me how much difficulty some people
ITT have condemning these neo-Nazis and how keen they are to talk about the "real" issues. Then there's the suggestion that it's OK for a tournament to allow these people in becuase, while they might well have already publicly identified with an ideology that wants to murder me and my family we've asked them to turn their t-shirts inside out, so it's all fine.
Ayy, thanks man. I still don't really know what exalts are, but maybe one day Yakface will unveil the secrets of what they do to us.
I do really appreciate the kind words though. I was a couple of bevvies deep, looking at dakka when I saw this thread re-surfacing, and idk, it just felt like a lot of people don't properly realize just how sheltered they are, how deep into their bubble or echo-chamber or whatever fething wormhole their heads are at that they can't see this for what it is. And it's a shame that a small number of loud voices are trying to
de-rail this thread about player conduct in the
40k community, for reasons that I really, for the life of me cannot understand
Anyway, I've said my piece I guess. I'm not sure what else I could say, unless
GW, the guy in the photo, or the Tournament decide to make some kind of statement on the matter. Like Togusa says, I'm sure this'll be yesterday's lunch in no time, and just like cursed city, there probably won't be a real answer. Which is a shame, but as we've seen over the last 7 pages, this is a pretty radioactive topic. I'm sure all 3 of those parties want to touch it as little as possible.