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Ok trying out the Eldar and happened to like the Pathfinders, so gonna give it a go.

HQ - Farseer, w/Runes of Warding, Witnessing, Guide = 100pts

Troops - Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts

Fast - Shining Spears x5, w/Exarch, Shuriken Cannon, Star Lance, Skilled rider, Withdraw = 252pts

Heavy - War Walkers x3 w/Bright lance and EML on each, Spirt stones = 255pts
Wraithlord w/Bright lance, Wraithsword = 140pts

The Farseer hangs out with the War Walkers and Wraithlord, casting guide on the Walkers and keeping the Wraithlord from sleeping. The Shining Spears and Wraithlord are there to pick off whatever's left from sniper fire that's gonna get into CC with the Rangers. The Wraithlord and War Walkers also help out with the Anti-Tank role.

Thanks for opinions.

templarjoe wrote:Ok trying out the Eldar and happened to like the Pathfinders, so gonna give it a go.

HQ - Farseer, w/Runes of Warding, Witnessing, Guide = 100pts

Troops - Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts

Fast - Shining Spears x5, w/Exarch, Shuriken Cannon, Star Lance, Skilled rider, Withdraw = 252pts

Heavy - War Walkers x3 w/Bright lance and EML on each, Spirt stones = 255pts
Wraithlord w/Bright lance, Wraithsword = 140pts

The Farseer hangs out with the War Walkers and Wraithlord, casting guide on the Walkers and keeping the Wraithlord from sleeping. The Shining Spears and Wraithlord are there to pick off whatever's left from sniper fire that's gonna get into CC with the Rangers. The Wraithlord and War Walkers also help out with the Anti-Tank role.

Thanks for opinions.

Well, interesting list. Aparently, there's a serious lack of close combat power, and that could be a problem if someone tries to assault your pathfinders, because a wraithlord may not be enough. Think that a simply squad of orks or genestealers can bring your entire army down. I also see you have no units, except the shining spears, to capture objectives, all of them are so statics.

While fluffy this list will have trouble with most armies.

Your pathfinders will do ok if they all target the same unit (as any combination of almost 750 points would), but will not be able to do enough to slow down even elite armies.

Most armies will out shoot you. Counting on tank support from AV10 vehicles in one or two squads is a little scary to me. I think you need to field 6 war walkers to make them come even close to their points investment and I still don't think that would really work. Once they are gone, all they have to worry about is one brightlanced wraithlord.

Every army but guard(even tau could out assault this!) will be able to out assault you as well. And once they get into your lines they are going to sing merrily as they bounce from squad to squad.

If you wanted to try this a passable list might be:

3 units of 6 pathfinders, 2 wraithlords with BL + EML, Eldred, Maugen ra, squad of dark reapers, 2 squads of dire avengers, And some scorps to bear the brung of anythign that makes it through all that firepower. That should come out right around 1500, and really puts up a huge field of fire that can't be taken down in a few lucky shots. Key here is Eldred spamming guide and doom.

I don't know if this would really be very competetitve, but it would compensate for some of the shotfalls of the list you posted.

Honestly I don't think the idea that an army of rangers will really fly anymore. The way it used to be was super cheese anyway.

Anyway, not trying to be mean or anything, you asked for feedback and If you are set on trying it just for fun regardless of competitiveness then proxy some models first before you go and buy $250 worth of rangers. And lastly, if it's fun for you, then my opinion is moot!

Meph

You might find Scorpions a good alternative to the Shining Spears. Although they are less mobile, Spears will not be taking and holding objectives, most likely, especially in 5th. Your only issue might be running out of space for Infiltrating units. On the good side, such a list would deploy after most enemy units.

To complement this late deployment focus, I would add Eldrad. The reposition will aid your WL and Walkers quite a bit. It would make your deployment completely reactive, and really frustruate the enemy. With such a static list as yours, this is a very good thing to guarantee you have good shots and can face only the portion of the enemy force that you want to.

You could also consider an option that Stelek actually came up with: small units of Harlies with Seer and Death Jester as combo fire support and countercharge. Say 2 units of 3 or 4, with kisses. This would be in place of the Spears.

Hmm.. all good suggestions, but i refuse to put Eldrad in this list 'cause i can only say that he's visiting Alaitoc so many times. Lemmie play with the numbers and see what i can come up with...

So it'll be either Scorps, Harlies, or something else...

Ok, take 2....

HQ - Farseer, w/Runes of Warding, Witnessing, Guide = 100pts

Elite - Harlies x9, w/Troupe master (Kiss), Death Jester, Shadowseer, Harlie's Kisses x5, Fusion Pistols x2 = 262pts.

Troops - Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts


Fast - Shining Spears x5, w/Exarch, Shuriken Cannon, Star Lance, Skilled rider, Withdraw = 252pts

Heavy - War Walkers x2 w/Bright lance and EML on each, Spirt stones = 170pts
Wraithlord w/Bright lance, Wraithsword = 140pts

Still don't see how that's going to kill anything. Harlies are good, but they won't stop stealers or Wyches. You need to ask yourself

1) Can I stop an all-out shooty army that decides to just shoot me back?

2) Can I stop an all-out assault army that bum-rushes me?

Both answers, sadly, are no. Guard will laugh at you and happily trade shots (what, you killed some of my 6 pt guys? oh noes!), stealer shock will rush you and rip you to bits, WWP DE will steamroll you, etc. You are just giving up too much killing power by spamming Pathfinders like that. They're great, yes, but they need more support than you're giving them.

templarjoe wrote: i refuse to put Eldrad in this list 'cause i can only say that he's visiting Alaitoc so many times.

The thing here is that a normal farseer kills himself doing what he is SUPPOSED to be doing. That's bad desgin on GW's part, but the reality we are left with is that if you want a farseer, the only one that's viable is Eldrad. Just consider him to be a regular farseer with uber powers. Eldar have enough short comings(T3 almost everywhere, high points for glass cannons, etc) that using our little uber psyker isn't really that outrageous. Most people don't mind seeing Eldrad accross the table ... most armies have a death company, or a flying prince, or a monolith, etc that's equally pimped out in their list. Now put down three falcons with harlies or dragons and get the cheese filtering earmuffs on cuz that' all you'll hear from your opponents.

Another try to fit your theme ...

3 pathfinder squads
Farseer(better if its eldred, but hey)
2 scorpian squads with exarch and infiltrate(by dropping the harlies and shining spears, keep them to about 200 pts per squad).
1 Wraithlord with BL/EML(drop the warwalkers for this)
1 wraithord with BL/EML
1 Falcon(with holofield, spirit stones and the other standard upgrade for dont crash) with 6 harlies (with kisses) (this replaces the 4th ranger squad and uses the last 100 points from droping the original harlies and spears)

Again, this should come out right around 1500. The tactic here is to try and get all of your static troops (rangers and WL)into one corner. Infiltrate your scorpians as close to enemy that move fast (jump infantry and the like) and use harlies to stop any elite Close combat units that don't get caught in the scorpians trap. By stopping a portion of the enemies army in or almost in their deployment zone this gives your shooty elements more turns to shoot. The wraithlords will draw more of the emeies heavy weapons and be able to withstand some of it(meaning many times that the other members of the squad will be wasted say in a tac squad of marines firning a lascannon).

I still don't think this will be a very effective list, but I think it would keep to your theme a little and still put a wrench in either an assaulty army or a shooty army.

Ok, i think i understand what you guys are trying to say how's take 3:

HQ: Aldrad (eldrad's cousin): 210pts

Elite: Scorpians x9, w/Exarch, Fist, Stalker, Shadowstrike: 196pts
Scorpians x9, w/Exarch, Fist, Stalker, Shadowstrike: 196pts

Troops: Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts
Pathfinders x6 = 144pts

Heavy: Wraithlord w/Bright lance, EML: 155pts
Wraithlord w/Bright lance, EML: 155pts

Ok, so the fluffy Alaitoc list dont fly so high as it used to. I'm willing to accept the losses to the completly decked out army from the eastern fringe, but hey that's just me. Ty all for the suggestions.

P.s. What do you all think of Warp Spiders?