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Don't think its been posted before, but will wack if a duplicate

From Warseer, notes FAQs may have been further tweaked for SM, WH, and DA
Credit where credit is due:
http://warseer.com/forums/showthread.php?t=154395

FAQs noted:
http://uk.games-workshop.com/news/errata/3/

I think DH are doomed to have crappy assault cannons forever.

According to the dates they list, it's the Witch Hunters who were updated, not the Demon Hunters.

Damn these guys with their timely updates. Behavior like this makes it very hard to complain about GW like I used to. Damn!

So for those of us that are ignorant, what 'changed' ?

SM got the "ATSKNF" rule back (the codex says see BRB. New book doesn't have the rule, so RAW lawyers were denying it to SM players out of spite)

The Land Raider for SM chapters got its assault vehicle rule back as well.

For Witch Hunters:

Holy Rage got better. It is now 6”+D6” and an option to run.

Seraphim and St. Celestine can now hit and run without an Int. check.

Exorcists and Immolators are now considered to be firing from a turret.

The Liber Heresius no longer works.

This is a good start.

Hopefully more designers will be made available to get more questions answered.

Why does the Power of the machine spirit work differently that the Daemonhunters one?

Blackmoor wrote:Exorcists and Immolators are now considered to be firing from a turret.

So Wehrkind ... looks like your immobilized exorcists just got more useful :S

- Salvage

Really good stuff overall. The fixes to Witchhunters Especially. The last thing the Repentia needed was a nerf.

They un-nerfed Repentia, Acroflaggelants and Penitent Engines, Huzzah! My 9 penitent Engine army yet lives.

Edit: Wow, just to add I have to say I'm pretty impressed with the Witch Hunters FAQ. Its pretty darn thorough and either logically extends old rules to the new functionality (Vinicaire's Turbo-Penetrator) or are kind enough to just clearly state that the rules are obsolete (Eversor fast shot, Liber Heresius). Most of all, unlike the first draft it really seems like the person who wrote this FAQ actually has an inkling of how to play the army. If this is the work of GWs new "FAQ Guy" he gets a thumbs up from me.

I agree, though competency doesn't seem to be highly regarded at GW HQ, so the new, good FAQ-GUY might soon be relocated to "Spare Slotta Tab Smelter" before he can effect too much positive change...

Here's hoping though!

Sadly, yakface and crew are no longer thanked in the newer ones.

temprus wrote:Sadly, yakface and crew are no longer thanked in the newer ones.

It's okay. They contacted me to let me know they were taking our names off of the FAQs. Seems they felt bad about how many people thought we actually wrote the FAQs and were blaming us for the rulings they didn't like.

I certainly don't mind, and plus I got to help a little bit with the WH FAQ.

It stands to reason. I too saw some really ugly messages erroneously directed towards you.

I know I personally placed a curse on his first born child over the thing about Necrons not being able to move after getting out of a Monolith.

yakface wrote:

temprus wrote:Sadly, yakface and crew are no longer thanked in the newer ones.

It's okay. They contacted me to let me know they were taking our names off of the FAQs. Seems they felt bad about how many people thought we actually wrote the FAQs and were blaming us for the rulings they didn't like.

I certainly don't mind, and plus I got to help a little bit with the WH FAQ.

Bah, I think your opinions on rulings are usually very well thought out and worded. Dont listen to those jerks, there just bitter that nobs in shoota squads can have powerklaws still

yakface wrote:

temprus wrote:Sadly, yakface and crew are no longer thanked in the newer ones.

It's okay. They contacted me to let me know they were taking our names off of the FAQs. Seems they felt bad about how many people thought we actually wrote the FAQs and were blaming us for the rulings they didn't like.

I certainly don't mind, and plus I got to help a little bit with the WH FAQ.

Damnit! You could have created new positions like "Dakka Tough Guy Bodyguard." You could have hired some of us to stand by you whenever you play at major public events and take care of the the riffraff that complains when it's "your fault" that X unit was wiped out on turn 1. Come on: every villain, and even most good guys, have bodyguards.

bigchris1313 wrote:

Damnit! You could have created new positions like "Dakka Tough Guy Bodyguard." You could have hired some of us to stand by you whenever you play at major public events and take care of the the riffraff that complains when it's "your fault" that X unit was wiped out on turn 1. Come on: every villain, and even most good guys, have bodyguards.

I would love that job. If you would like my resume, please know that I have many years of training in both eastern and western martial arts and...

They updated the WH FAQ on 7/28. It looks like it was only a minor change for some wargear.

Also they thanked some guy named Jon Regul for the FAQs. I think he is the person responsible for GW's Regul Blue color.

Uhh Yak just tell them? Or is the secret decoder ring gonna get taken away if ya do? lol

That punk Regal strikes again? Will no one rid me of this meddlesome priest!

Stelek wrote:This is a good start.

Hopefully more designers will be made available to get more questions answered.

Currently, it's just Alessio and possibly the person who wrote the codex/army book and then only if Alessio feels he needs some help with the author's interpretation. However, I would hope that the developers allow for more clubs/groups to feed them with questions and clarifications, so that GW will see what the standard misunderstandings the average player is running into.

What I have found out though is that each regional area has it's own unique rules querries, so in many cases, there are "unanswered" questions..

yakface wrote:

temprus wrote:Sadly, yakface and crew are no longer thanked in the newer ones.

It's okay. They contacted me to let me know they were taking our names off of the FAQs. Seems they felt bad about how many people thought we actually wrote the FAQs and were blaming us for the rulings they didn't like.

I certainly don't mind, and plus I got to help a little bit with the WH FAQ.

Now if only they can get you onto the DH and Tyranid FAQ!

Blackmoor wrote:For Witch Hunters:

Seraphim and St. Celestine can now hit and run without an Int. check.

Why? Whats so special about them that they get to ignore this basic rule book rule. Dethcopters, tau vectored jump jets, and a few others got screwed over by this in the black book rule, but the WH units get a free ride.

Yeah right.

Jayden63 wrote:

Blackmoor wrote:For Witch Hunters:

Seraphim and St. Celestine can now hit and run without an Int. check.

Why? Whats so special about them that they get to ignore this basic rule book rule. Dethcopters, tau vectored jump jets, and a few others got screwed over by this in the black book rule, but the WH units get a free ride.

Yeah right.

Moving forward, it appears at though GW is going to stick with ruling that each individual codex's rules being they are what they are for the most part except where noted in a FAQ.

So while it does mean similar stuff in different codexes will work slightly differently from each other, it also means players won't have to try to worry about whether 'X' new codex that came out means that their wargear has changed.

You just have your codex and that's what your rules are.

yakface wrote:So while it does mean similar stuff in different codexes will work slightly differently from each other, it also means players won't have to try to worry about whether 'X' new codex that came out means that their wargear has changed.

Thereby defeating the purpose of even haing a 'Universal Special Rule' section. I can't wait to have 4 slightly different versions of True Grit again. Wasn't that fun!

BYE

H.B.M.C. wrote:

yakface wrote:So while it does mean similar stuff in different codexes will work slightly differently from each other, it also means players won't have to try to worry about whether 'X' new codex that came out means that their wargear has changed.

Thereby defeating the purpose of even haing a 'Universal Special Rule' section. I can't wait to have 4 slightly different versions of True Grit again. Wasn't that fun!

BYE

That's not a fair assessment because newer codexes just reference the USR in the rulebook.

It looks like there are just going to be some advantages and disadvantages for having really old codexs. Too bad they only revise 2-3 a year.