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Chaos Dreadnought Fire Frenzy rules say:

...if the chaos dreadnought can't fire any ranged weapons treat this as a '2-5' sane result instead.

Question 1 : If there is nothing in range Do I treat this as a sane result?

Question 2 : if the dread is Stunned/Shaken Do I treat this as a sane result or does the frenzy over rule?
this could work for or against the chaos player depending on whos unit is closest!

not a firefrenzy question but this popped up in a game I had today.
Question 3 : My dread gets shaken in the previous turn, in my turn can the dreadnought Run?
I think he might as well run he can't shoot!?

PaniC...

Yes to both.

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For Q1: Are you sure because the other school of thinking is you nominate a squad to fire at and find out your not in range and do nothing

PaniC..

Panic wrote:yeah...

For Q1: Are you sure because the other school of thinking is you nominate a squad to fire at and find out your not in range and do nothing

PaniC..

I was thinking about that and what if you elected the closest squad but they aren't in LOS?

I would say no to the first, but yes to the second.

Here's the thought. For fire frenzy, the Dread must target the closest unit and fire at them if able. Hence, in the first case the Dread will target the closest unit - but this unit is out of range, so its shots are wasted. In the second case, the Dread cannot fire weapons that turn, due to being shaken/stunned, so acts as a Sane result.

Also, Typeline, IIRC it does specifically state the nearest unit in line of sight.

Panic:

In response to Q1, I'd note that the restriction is on the Dreadnought's ability to fire ranged weapons, not on the presence of targets to shoot. So if the Dreadnought isn't Stunned or Shaken, then it goes berzerk and fires frenziedly at some scenery (remind anyone of the berzerk scene from Terry Jones' "Eric the Viking?).

In response to Q1, since a Dreadnought that is Shaken or Stunned cannot fire any ranged weapons, then you treat any rolls of 1 as a "Sane" result.

Finally, I think this is a wonderful situation for a special die marked with little Dreadnought mood icons.

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I figure your right about Q1: because the first part of the rule (not quoted above) says he aims at the closest visable unit, but the second part clearly enquires about the operational status of his weapons... i guess he just tries to shoot not realising they are out of range...

@Typeline I think your thinking raises a issue, what would do do in the rare occation that no units are visable? say he's behind a building...
does he just stand still wanting to shoot but wondering what to shoot at? or unable to (find a target to) shoot at act sane...

I've also added a third question... ( not related to fire frenzy... appologies to the OP for thread jacking...hahaha)

PaniC...