40k codex release schedule rumor

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**casvalremdeikun**

MajorWesJanson wrote:
Imateria wrote:
casvalremdeikun wrote:
Blackie wrote:
Then why the succubus can now take razorflails, shardnet & impaler or hydra gauntlets? Plus the two pistols, which could be part of her loadout also in the index. The only official model is a monopose one with agoniser and glaive.

The "no model/option in the kit no rule" doesn't apply for all the profiles.
Because those bits exist in other kits(I am going with them being in the Wych kit, but possibly the Hellion kit. Not sure). No demi-klaive models exist at all. Same with the Archon being able to take a Blast Pistol, Agonizer, or Power Sword. None of those are in his kit, but you can absolutely put arms from the Kabalite Warriors kit.

The really strange part is that they took away the Blaster option for the Archon whilst giving him an option for a Venom Blade.

Well, the blaster i can understand going, though sadly. It was the only hq model in the entire game iirc that could take a full special weapon, so stood out. At least before combiweapons got upgraded.

Which means that the Archon is actually getting the shaft compared to other HQs, who have Special Weapons with a Boltgun attached.

Oh well, I really like the Splinter Pistol relics, so I will be modeling mine with one (not with the stupid crossed-arms pose though). One thing I am really happy about is that GW realized how dumb HQs clampacks without head options are. Too late for my Archon, but I will find him a nice head.

**zerosignal**

tneva82 wrote:
Even that's unusual. Generally GW hates kitbashing like plague. Just look at marines where characters have limited options despite marines being THE easiest army to kitbash with tons of kits to mix&match.

DE can considerer themselves to be lucky to have ANY options in their characters.

Maybe they have limited options *because* they are so easy to kitbash?

I have no problem with the Marine kits - I've kitbashed lots of stuff (Techmarines, CM on Bike, etc.)

**the_scotsman**

Yeah, I'm actually incredibly pleasantly surprised by the number of kitbash options available in the book.

Just another instance of GW's fun "Maybe model, maybe rules???" policy at work. Archon with blast pistol lifted from the kabalite sprue? Sure! Archon with blaster lifted from a different part of the very same kabalite sprue? No way jose!

Multiple astra militarum units from the same kit representing more/less trained versions of the same basic mold? Yeah, we've got a whole passel o' those!

One kabalite unit with the exact same logic behind it? Not allowed!

I'm grateful to be only losing some stuff, when I could have lost all the stuff. It gives me hope that the rules team is doing something to wriggle free from the grasp of the legal team.

**Kurgash**

Can't you just do Archons with blasters like from the Index?

**Slayer-Fan123**

Kurgash wrote:
Can't you just do Archons with blasters like from the Index?

It's more the principle that it isn't in the codex.

I can still do Biker HQ for my Marines because of the index but it's pretty annoying when they actually HAVE an official Captain on a bike! Granted it says White Scars but still...

**Warhams-77**

Galas wrote:
From: http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345193-chaos-space-wolves-codex-kroot-rumors-heavy-salt/

New Black Legion will be in a boxed set with new Space Wolves, new Abbadon model and Chaos Chosen, plus a new Wolves character and some other stuff. End of year for the boxed set.

Angron and new Khorne will be coming too, although may be next year now. Angron is gonna be huge

Also here's a big one: Kroot Codex. Hard to believe, but the source on this has never been wrong for me.

Russ is returning - old man Russ, looks a bit like Odin - and he will POSSIBLY have 2 forms like Morathi

There are new rumors regarding an updated Abbadon model

Via The Spanish Inquisitor - B&C forum

A french youtuber, French Wargame Studio, who has a good rate of rumours just confirmed that a box set with a new Abaddon and new Obliterators was planned for release in December.

(For those who speak french https://youtu.be/HzvuabKBs_I?t=2h14m59s )

Translation:
"Four or Five month ago, an american guy "dreamt" of new obliterators. We had the same "dream". It would be for the end of the year, or beginning of next year, we'll have a recast of Abaddon and Obliterators. I saw Santa, he was talking to Abaddon: Abaddon was in a box set with some obliterators, fighting other people looking like humans [...]. (answering a question) No, it's not the Battle Sisters ! I don't know, maybe I spoke too quickly. No, they will be imperial humans in 3+ power armor. "

For the record, FWS "dreamt" of a Gorka-Morka-like game before it was announced by GW.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/349831-new-abaddon-and-obliterators/

**BrianDavion**

so... Primaris Space Marines of some stripe or another vs black legion?

**Warhams-77**

Good guess. With a Dark Angels upgrade sprue? Or maybe... Arbites?

Automatically Appended Next Post:

Or Wulfen?

TheWolfLord - B&C

In the recently released Ashes of Prospero the Wolves found and freed around 200 of the original 13th Company plus much of their vehicle support from a Labyrinth on Prospero. These were led by Wolf Lord Bulveye who is an iconic character in the lore of the Wolves.
These new/old? Wolves discovered the betrayal by Horus and his manipulation of Russ in the attack on Prospero.

It would be very strange if GW didn't incorporate Bulveye and his Wolves into the Space Wolves Codex with new lore and rules.

A boxed set of the 13th Company versus the Black Legion makes sense as they'd be the obvious target of Bulveye anger at Horus for his betrayal.

- Edited by TheWolfLord, 12 March 2018 - 10:52 PM.

http://www.bolterandchainsword.com/topic/345193-chaos-space-wolves-codex-kroot-rumors-heavy-salt/#entry5030611

**Mr Morden**

BrianDavion wrote:
so... Primaris Space Marines of some stripe or another vs black legion?

Primaris seem the most likely - maybe a new type or upgrades for one of the non snowflake Chapters for once.

The other option is more Sisters of Silence - they are imperial humans in 3+ power armor.... they are due for a Codex given that Custodians got one.

**H.B.M.C.**

Black Templars would be the last one, right?

They're not going to do White Scars/Sallies/Raven Guard.

**BrianDavion**

Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
so... Primaris Space Marines of some stripe or another vs black legion?

Primaris seem the most likely - maybe a new type or upgrades for one of the non snowflake Chapters for once.

The other option is more Sisters of Silence - they are imperial humans in 3+ power armor.... they are due for a Codex given that Custodians got one.

actually... here's a thought, GW's notorious for putting plastic kits out in a box for a few months before the minis themselves are released... chapter approved 2018 is giving us Beta SOB rules...

What if it's a Black Legionv s SISTERS OF BATTLE Box.

**Elbows**

I think Abaddon with Obliterators would sell like absolute hot cakes - both exceptionally strong/good units with questionable minis (Abaddon's fine, but Obliterators are gak).

Couple that with some new fancy marines and the box would sell instantly. I think it'd be much safer to be more new Primaris though than anything Space Wolf related (and sad to see them steal the name Bulveye from Bulwyf which is the name given to the portrayer of Beowful in Crichton's Eater's of the Dead/13th Warrior).

**BrianDavion**

Normally I'd be almsot positive it woul;dn't be space wolves cause of tooth and claw, but we DID get the Ncron/Admech box followed by kill team. and Come to think of it kill team had GSC in it, so if we use those boxes as a guide, space wolves + something else might be argued as inevitable

**tneva82**

BrianDavion wrote:
Mr Morden wrote:
BrianDavion wrote:
so... Primaris Space Marines of some stripe or another vs black legion?

Primaris seem the most likely - maybe a new type or upgrades for one of the non snowflake Chapters for once.

The other option is more Sisters of Silence - they are imperial humans in 3+ power armor.... they are due for a Codex given that Custodians got one.

actually... here's a thought, GW's notorious for putting plastic kits out in a box for a few months before the minis themselves are released... chapter approved 2018 is giving us Beta SOB rules...

What if it's a Black Legionv s SISTERS OF BATTLE Box.

Too early. They started designing models spring. Gw leadtimes means next year earliest. December releases would be long done by now

**Mr_Rose**

That and we also know we’re getting that special/example character sculpt for Christmas; usurping that with a whole unit 6-8 months early would be weird (although entirely welcome) unless GW suddenly decided that metal minis in a battlezone box is okay, which is frankly even less likely than a near-miraculous turn-around on getting new sprues ready.

**Mr Morden**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Black Templars would be the last one, right?

They're not going to do White Scars/Sallies/Raven Guard.

Sadly no as they are not Snowflake Chapters - just First Founding.........

Black Templars is possible or even Imperial Fists - both were quite prominent in the Battle for Cadia against the Black Legion.

Maybe its the new Primaris Codex.

**Arachnofiend**

Oh man, I really hope this particular rumor is true. I would LOVE to see some new oblits, I love the concept of the unit but the model itself is just so, so hideous. There's nowhere to go but up with modern GW's reimagining of the concept.

**H.B.M.C.**

Oblits in plastic is a great idea, but even better if you can build them as Mutilators as well (those minis are far, far worse than the metal Oblits).

And then maybe... just maybe... this sad old set can get an upgrade.

Mr Morden wrote:
Black Templars is possible or even Imperial Fists - both were quite prominent in the Battle for Cadia against the Black Legion.

Actually you're right about the Fists. Plus the same kit will cover Crimson Fists as well, so two birds, one oversized Marine.

Mr Morden wrote:
Maybe its the new Primaris Codex.

On top of everything else?

**Sasori**

H.B.M.C. wrote:
Oblits in plastic is a great idea, but even better if you can build them as Mutilators as well (those minis are far, far worse than the metal Oblits).

And then maybe... just maybe... this sad old set can get an upgrade.

Mr Morden wrote:
Black Templars is possible or even Imperial Fists - both were quite prominent in the Battle for Cadia against the Black Legion.
Actually you're right about the Fists. Plus the same kit will cover Crimson Fists as well, so two birds, one oversized Marine.

Mr Morden wrote:
Maybe its the new Primaris Codex.
On top of everything else?

Yeah, a Dual Oblit/Mutailator kit would be great. Hopefully with a nice boost to Muties.