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Anon052 wrote:
They got 3 attacks now? And with -1 AP and a point reduction. WOW they got massivly improved. Must take at least one in every list.

They have the same number of attacks as before. They used to have a base of 2 and their glimmer steel blade used to give +1 attack.

 Davespil wrote:
I think Knights will be next because we've gotten a leak or two from that DeX before we got leaks from the other two. They showed us the new knight and we just got armigers.

That's my guess for the next codex, too. I'm still expecting at least one more sprue in the Armiger kit, so hopefully we'll see that soon.

 EnTyme wrote:

 Davespil wrote:
I think Knights will be next because we've gotten a leak or two from that DeX before we got leaks from the other two. They showed us the new knight and we just got armigers.

That's my guess for the next codex, too. I'm still expecting at least one more sprue in the Armiger kit, so hopefully we'll see that soon.

At this point I don't think anybody isn't expecting a sprue in the Armiger kit since the instructions show at least one head option that isn't on the frame.

What remains to be seen is whether it's 2 to a box with you being able to build two of each type or one of each type.

Dionysodorus wrote:
Mandrakes at 16 points and with d3 MW weapons would be ridiculous. Their shooting alone makes them almost as good as Guardians against GEQs and then far better against everything else, with built-in deep strike. Almost nothing does better than them vs T7 3+/4++. You'd see suicide units of them in every Eldar list.

English codex in hand. Baleblast does only a single mortal wound, not d3.

I'm expecting Harlequins next because It'll be a no model release. They will milk knights across two weeks with a model release and then the codex release. I don't see them fitting knights in alongside Idoneth Deepkin, whereas they could for Harlequins.

Or they could do harlequins and knights back to back like crons and de were. Have the Armiger's release the same week as the harlequin book (and getting started set) then the other week knight book and castellan.

I would love more harlequins models please.

Even if nothing else a new unit type to build out of the current squad. I have a few left to build, give me some mimes!!!

(Also, none of their weapons should be "heavy" don't force me to hold back with a fast moving army when my longest range is 24")

Anon052 wrote:
They got 3 attacks now? And with -1 AP and a point reduction. WOW they got massivly improved. Must take at least one in every list.

The Codex reviews are not complete and at least one had mistakes.

They've always had 3 attacks, 2 base plus 1 additional with their blades.

 rollawaythestone wrote:
I'm expecting Harlequins next because It'll be a no model release. They will milk knights across two weeks with a model release and then the codex release. I don't see them fitting knights in alongside Idoneth Deepkin, whereas they could for Harlequins.

THis is possible, too. They might want to wait a bit longer to release the Armiger kit until a lot of people already bought the Forgebane box.

I am really hoping they make that sprue available as an upgrade. I will build one as a Armiger Warglaive, but I am hoping for another option.

I expect Harlequins and Deathwatch will be back to back, with at most for Deathwatch a Primaris upgrade sprue. They used to have a campaign box with those two squaring off, after all! :p

Whether that is before or after Knights, no clue.

If we pray hard enough, maybe they will rerelease the box set for DW/Harlies.

 Crazyterran wrote:
I expect Harlequins and Deathwatch will be back to back, with at most for Deathwatch a Primaris upgrade sprue. They used to have a campaign box with those two squaring off, after all! :p

Whether that is before or after Knights, no clue.

If we pray hard enough, maybe they will rerelease the box set for DW/Harlies.

Not expecting it but I would love this.

Missed it first time round.

 rollawaythestone wrote:
I'm expecting Harlequins next because It'll be a no model release. They will milk knights across two weeks with a model release and then the codex release. I don't see them fitting knights in alongside Idoneth Deepkin, whereas they could for Harlequins.

If anything Harlequins might just end up being a 'here, we added these units from other armies to your range to compensate, enjoy your Razorwing Jetfighter from the DE range and enjoy your Vyper jetbikes from the Eldar range. Use spares to convert them. HaHAA.'

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 rollawaythestone wrote:
I'm expecting Harlequins next because It'll be a no model release. They will milk knights across two weeks with a model release and then the codex release. I don't see them fitting knights in alongside Idoneth Deepkin, whereas they could for Harlequins.

If anything Harlequins might just end up being a 'here, we added these units from other armies to your range to compensate, enjoy your Razorwing Jetfighter from the DE range and enjoy your Vyper jetbikes from the Eldar range. Use spares to convert them. HaHAA.'

For that they would need to repackage "harlequin vyper jetbike" etc. And convert? HAHAHAHAHA! GW doesn't believe in that.

 DarkStarSabre wrote:

 rollawaythestone wrote:
I'm expecting Harlequins next because It'll be a no model release. They will milk knights across two weeks with a model release and then the codex release. I don't see them fitting knights in alongside Idoneth Deepkin, whereas they could for Harlequins.

If anything Harlequins might just end up being a 'here, we added these units from other armies to your range to compensate, enjoy your Razorwing Jetfighter from the DE range and enjoy your Vyper jetbikes from the Eldar range. Use spares to convert them. HaHAA.'

Well, I have a converted Harlequin Vyper, and a Hemlock painted in my Masque colors, so I actually wouldn't mind having the opportunity to include them and still benefit from the Masque tactics. But I don't believe it's going to happen.
A conversion model like the GMNDK isn't impossible, although pretty unlikely given how few codex got stuff like that (but maybe having a very restricted unit range increases the chances...), and Harlequins have easy conversions like a troupe master on skyweaver.

A Start Collecting box could be released with the codex, especially if GW needs to fill up a release slot. I could see the SC being Troupe + Starweaver + Skyweavers. Or Troupe + Starweaver + 2 characters.

Hey look at that; Incubi can't get demi-klaives any more.

Looks at Incubi models on GW Website... Is totally not shocked that demi-klavies are not a option since they don't sell a model with them. Reminds players to consult Designer's Commentary and Index Xenos 1.

Well that was obvious from day first codex was released

Then why the succubus can now take razorflails, shardnet & impaler or hydra gauntlets? Plus the two pistols, which could be part of her loadout also in the index. The only official model is a monopose one with agoniser and glaive.

The "no model/option in the kit no rule" doesn't apply for all the profiles.

 Blackie wrote:
Then why the succubus can now take razorflails, shardnet & impaler or hydra gauntlets? Plus the two pistols, which could be part of her loadout also in the index. The only official model is a monopose one with agoniser and glaive.

The "no model/option in the kit no rule" doesn't apply for all the profiles.

Because those bits exist in other kits(I am going with them being in the Wych kit, but possibly the Hellion kit. Not sure). No demi-klaive models exist at all. Same with the Archon being able to take a Blast Pistol, Agonizer, or Power Sword. None of those are in his kit, but you can absolutely put arms from the Kabalite Warriors kit.

Even that's unusual. Generally GW hates kitbashing like plague. Just look at marines where characters have limited options despite marines being THE easiest army to kitbash with tons of kits to mix&match.

DE can considerer themselves to be lucky to have ANY options in their characters.

tneva82 wrote:


DE can considerer themselves to be lucky to have ANY options in their characters.

I was positively surprised by that. I really hopes this is signalling a change in attitude. I understand not including options that do not exist at all, but options that easily can be kitbashed from kits of the same faction should be included.

 Crimson wrote:

tneva82 wrote:


DE can considerer themselves to be lucky to have ANY options in their characters.

I was positively surprised by that. I really hopes this is signalling a change in attitude. I understand not including options that do not exist at all, but options that easily can be kitbashed from kits of the same faction should be included.

C'mon Lasgun Officers and Sergeants! C'mon Skitarii/Princep HQs!
C'MOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOON!


Congrats to Dark Eldar for getting something I'm extremely jealous of.

Well, they already talked in their previews about the Dark Eldar kits being cunningly made to be kit bashed. Was kinda clear to me that the HQs would be able to take weapons out of the standard kits again.

Cinderspirit wrote:
Well, they already talked in their previews about the Dark Eldar kits being cunningly made to be kit bashed. Was kinda clear to me that the HQs would be able to take weapons out of the standard kits again.

The cynical part of me sees that more like GW capitalizing on the creativity of players more than an intentional design choice.

 Wolf_in_Human_Shape wrote:

Cinderspirit wrote:
Well, they already talked in their previews about the Dark Eldar kits being cunningly made to be kit bashed. Was kinda clear to me that the HQs would be able to take weapons out of the standard kits again.

The cynical part of me sees that more like GW capitalizing on the creativity of players more than an intentional design choice.

You say that like this wasn’t explicitly part of the design notes when the kits were first released.

Nice to see phantasm grenade launchers are assault weapons, means you can shoot them and any other guns on the model equipped with it, it's not game changing but it's something nice to fill those few little points up with at the end of your list

Ah, I didn't know that. Fair enough!

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Then why the succubus can now take razorflails, shardnet & impaler or hydra gauntlets? Plus the two pistols, which could be part of her loadout also in the index. The only official model is a monopose one with agoniser and glaive.

The "no model/option in the kit no rule" doesn't apply for all the profiles.

Because those bits exist in other kits(I am going with them being in the Wych kit, but possibly the Hellion kit. Not sure). No demi-klaive models exist at all. Same with the Archon being able to take a Blast Pistol, Agonizer, or Power Sword. None of those are in his kit, but you can absolutely put arms from the Kabalite Warriors kit.

The really strange part is that they took away the Blaster option for the Archon whilst giving him an option for a Venom Blade.

 Imateria wrote:

 casvalremdeikun wrote:

 Blackie wrote:
Then why the succubus can now take razorflails, shardnet & impaler or hydra gauntlets? Plus the two pistols, which could be part of her loadout also in the index. The only official model is a monopose one with agoniser and glaive.

The "no model/option in the kit no rule" doesn't apply for all the profiles.

Because those bits exist in other kits(I am going with them being in the Wych kit, but possibly the Hellion kit. Not sure). No demi-klaive models exist at all. Same with the Archon being able to take a Blast Pistol, Agonizer, or Power Sword. None of those are in his kit, but you can absolutely put arms from the Kabalite Warriors kit.

The really strange part is that they took away the Blaster option for the Archon whilst giving him an option for a Venom Blade.

Well, the blaster i can understand going, though sadly. It was the only hq model in the entire game iirc that could take a full special weapon, so stood out. At least before combiweapons got upgraded.