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Today I held the Chaos models in my hands, and scrutinisd the sprues that I saw.

If this is posted elsewhere so be it, I see it so I say it.

CHAOS KNIGHTS.

Box of five £12.
Plastic boxset

The knights:
Includes five knight torsos in front and back halves, five pairs of shoulder pads, five pairs of legs in side halves and a seperate head for each. I think there may have been six heads.

Right arms for shields, the shield appears to be standard for the kit, you get no room for different options other than command.

Shield arms flatten out near the 'hand' to be connected to the shield. There are five shield arms, but seven shields. Eacxh shield is embossd with chaos undivided insignia. No seperate marks anywhere ther or elsewhere.

The standard beaerer arm includes a shield and standard in the same piece, there is an eight pointed star topper seperate, that casn be ommitted.

The musician has a horn, the end of the horn has a seperate piece (think Dev squad barrel ends).

The business end arms get:
Seven hand weapons. Some are axes, other picks, some swords, one mace.
Five lances, all different. The lances look more like oversized spears, they look nasty.

Rumour: The redshirt told me you get to use either lances (S6 charge) or 'sword of might' (S5) for the entire unit.

The Steeds:
Two body sides and two head sides. You get five horss with no spare bits.
The horses do not fit on cavalry slots but on the bases.
The horses are BIG.

Forgive me if I post this in stages. I am at work and have a dinky small cheap keyboard. I lost a large post today already once. got near the end then hit the wrong key....

CHAOS LORD BOXSET

A metal miniature. Nice pose blah blah blah.

He costs £12, same as a box of knights.

His steed is on a 50x50 base, unsculpted.

It is identical in size to the chaos knight steeds on the sprue, and is little more detailed.

My conclusion. You want a lord, but an extra chaos knight boxset, convert the rider a little if needs be. Convert the base a little too.


MARAUDER HORSE BOXSET

Again £12
Plastic kit.

Five marauder horsemen in the box. Only saw the assembled marauders, flails are an option. Reins on the horses. Very nice, norse looking.

Edit: Horsemen have throwing axes, thowing spears, hand weapons and flail options.


WARHOUNDS

Again £12
Plastic kit
Ten warhounds in the boxset.

You get two identical sprues each:

Five warhounds with no tails and circular holes behind the temples. They have smooth rear haunches and leonine bearded fronts.
Each warhound is in two halves.

You also have five seperate tail pieces (so you can lave a hound without). Tails include scorpion tail, lizard tail etc

You also have five pairs of 'horns' including various horns, tentacles, antlers etc.

The holes are very distinctive, if you didnt like the horns you will need to green stuff over them.
plastic kit

Two small rumours while we are at it.

The List:

Daemon Princes are the only daemons allowed.

Chaos warriors, marauders and marauder horse are core.

You can have chariots are specials, or any of the above with marks and mutations.

Rarer include spawn and the Hellcannon.

Hellcannon still have chaos dwarf crew.

No other missile weapons.


The GIFTS:

You can take mutations/gifts
in addition to magic items. As per Vampire counts.

Two sameple gifts:

Distendable Maw 40pts
Replace all attacks with single attack roll, if hit opponent must make a leadership roll or is eaten.


Second head. 25pts
Gives you +3 to all casting rolls.
You are subject to stupidity.

Characters

1. All Chaos lords and heroes (nmot sure on caster characters) must issue challenges and cannot refuse them.

2. If a character kills an opponent in a challenge roll 2d6 and consult the Gifts of the Gods table.
Almost all results are beneficial. 2 makes you stupid, 7 has no effect 12 gives you stubborn and a 4+ward save. All benefits last for the remainder of the game.

3. You can take gifts from more than one God, just as Vampires can choose frommany of the 'bloodline' powers.

CORE
Marauders 4pts each. Ws and I4. Light armour, flails, shields extra hand weapons are all extra.

Warriors are 16pts each with chaos armour (4+), and either shield, extra hand weapon or halberd. Great weapons cost 1pt more.
Commands cost 12pts/6pts.
Magic banners and marks available to any warrior unit.

Marauder Horse are 13pts. Javelins +1pt, throwing axes +2pts, shields, light armour and flails also available.

SPECIAL
Chosen
18pts for Warriors with +1Ws (??also maybe ld??). Get the Gift of the Gods special ability

Forsaken
18pts for Warriors on their way to spoawndom. d3+1 attacks special rules, rather nasty but hard to control.

Ogres
Without OK special rules

Trolls and Dragon Ogres (might they disappear from beasts?)

RARE

Spawn

Giant

Hellcannon 205pts with three chaos dwarf crew

This thing is nasty enough, especially if it misfires:
1: blows up causing hits on all within 3d6"
2: eats all crew
3: ALL wizards on tabletop suffer miscast
4: eats d3 crew
5: charges
6: shoots at S10 then can no longer shoot for rest of game.

Hey Orlanth, sorry to rain on the party, but some of this stuff is inaccurate. More detailed and comprehensive rumors (most of them confirmed by a few folks who have seen the book) have been posted here:

http://z4.invisionfree.com/cotec/index.php?showtopic=3702&st=0

...a couple of weeks ago.

Detailed discussions can also be found here:

http://warhammer.org.uk/PhP/viewtopic.php?t=48735&start=0

and here:

http://warhammer.org.uk/PhP/viewtopic.php?t=47448&postdays=0&postorder=asc&start=364

Rain away.

There was no rumour list here so I started one, besides I saw the miniatures which was the actual point of the thread. If you see the Chaos Knight sprues for yourself you will know there is definately something to write about.

Thanks for ths links, but while on the subject of innaccuracies, what little I posted tallies up with the links you gave me.

Most of your stuff is good. The only stuff that jumped out at me was the marks- Second Head (which I think is actually Conjoined Homunculous) gives you an extra D3, and Distendable Jaw, which is an Initiative test; considerably nastier against certain characters.

The info about the models is indeed cool.

Some photos:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/djshamrock71/choscomd2dj5.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/djshamrock71/chaoswarhoundxj2.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v456/djshamrock71/chaosknightset9.jpg

http://www.thepainteddragon.co.uk/forum/index.php?topic=1489.msg11552

the Bell of lost souls has posted pics of the mortal sprues

A sneeky peak at the entire army book is available in certain places, if you know BT where to look

They had a preview copy of the Warriors of Chaos at my local GW. I went through it with the staff member and the rules are crazy.

Chaos Knights can replace their magic swords with lances!

Some of the new characters like the Troll king and the Shaggoth are totally insane.

They also had some pictures of the plastic demon prince that will be released at the second wave.

I also saw the sprues for the Marauder horsemen as well as the new chaos knights. I am amazed.

I got to play with the chaos knights and the marauder horsemen today.
The marauder horsemen are fantastic, kudos to GW for making a superb kit that really capture the chaos feel.

The chaos knight. Initially I was really worried that they sucked but apart from the stupid 'skulls stuck on or between massive skulls' helmets and the ridiculously massive halbards/lances they are all kinds of awesome.

Also got to read the book last night at a friends place.
The marauder rank and file are ridiculously good at 4 points each (1 point for each equip upgrade) AND they can take marks of chaos!

The chaos giant is immune to psych but we couldn't find the mutant monstrosity upgrade anywhere (it may have been in the main bestiary automatically and we missed it) But as it can be marked now try a mark of slaanesh giving it always strikes first.

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:

The chaos giant is immune to psych but we couldn't find the mutant monstrosity upgrade anywhere (it may have been in the main bestiary automatically and we missed it) But as it can be marked now try a mark of slaanesh giving it always strikes first.

Slaaneshi Giants: They fall down even faster!

Yeah, the Marauders look keen, and they have enough options that they could make perfectly convincing cultists, particularly with the Marks. I think I'm sold. I'll be unpacking my Chaos army from the boxes pretty soon, I think. Got some diseased flagellants to make...

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:we couldn't find the mutant monstrosity upgrade anywhere (it may have been in the main bestiary automatically and we missed it)

who has this WG? the giant doesnt.

trolls as core.... nice

My local GW built 5 Maruader Horsemen and 5 Chaos Knights today. I got lucky and got all the extra bits. Some very nice extras on them.

Pictures of the alternative Version of the new plastic demon prince

http://www.brueckenkopf-online.com/?p=1435

usernamesareannoying wrote:

Waaagh_Gonads wrote:we couldn't find the mutant monstrosity upgrade anywhere (it may have been in the main bestiary automatically and we missed it)

who has this WG? the giant doesnt.

trolls as core.... nice

Page 30 (last entry in the chaos giant entry) Beasts of chaos book. Mutant Monstrosity: 5+ armour save and when roll to see what attacks you get, roll again and if you roll the same number you fall over in whatever direction you want- THE best result possible for a giant's attacks.

That Daemon Prince looks like he's really constipated. No wonder he's so cranky.

im gonna nurglify that demon prince soooo much!

yeah,
I saw this sprue instore and it looks awesome. the new maurader heads look like awesome Space Wolf Heads! really viking like.
I counted 16 heads on the sprue...

PAniC..

From BOLS

I want my demon prince to be heavily armored like the 40k demon princes.

Panic, can't see the Marauder sprues, are new sprues coming out for foot marouders? Teh current ones look like Hanz, your average male dominatrix.