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Well if you all are leaving and it trashes your economy at least it will make forgeworld cheaper for me

 Yodhrin wrote:
Jeebus jumpin Jehoshaphat, Birmingham have gone Leave. Game over man, game over...

Nah... blame Liz:


Ahem... Liz, can I have that pillow please?

 A Town Called Malus wrote:

 flamingkillamajig wrote:

 AndrewC wrote:
I had a conversation with the father-in-law a while back about this and a possible reason for the demographic on the age vote.

His generation was the ones who voted to join the common market as it was then known back in the day, and since that day, the common market has transformed into the present day EU with no consultation to the people who voted to join in the first place. Perhaps, and this is me trying to put 2 and 2 together, it may be the older voter is trying to undo a mistake they feel they made 40 years ago?

Sometimes we see our elders as racist bigots with not as good of an education but they have experience often and sometimes that's worth more than what you're taught in school (as that can be somebody pushing views on you whereas experience is just what you've seen yourself). Perhaps they know how the EU is and has been.

Alternatively, they've lived their lives enjoying the benefits of EU membership and are now screwing the younger generation out of them just like they've done with housing and pensions.

I'd be curious to hear how you come to that conclusion assuming that you're not just playing devils advocate?

The leave lead just hit 840,000. This is brutal.

Great Britain is too great to be a kicked around province of the EUSSR. Bring back the Empire! Brexit FTW.

The bear's pretty cute I have to admit.

So, may I go to the bed now ? It is very late here (or very early ! ) and I want to sleep
But I want to know the result !

 Wyrmalla wrote:
I'll need to filch this old guy out of the loft to sleep with tonight. :(

The Ty bears were doing alright on ebay recently. Just don't sell it to a European country the exchange rates crap at the moment.....

Thank you wales!

Wales Leave 854,572

Wales Remain 772,347


Scotland - we need to have a chat..

Scotland Leave 1,018,322

Scotland Remain 1,661,191

Seems like it'll be over in an hour or two. This is picking up steam pretty fast. I'd still say give both sides a fair chance at this. I remember when they did the Obama vs Romney popular votes and then they were like "Oh wait california hasn't shown votes yet." and then Obama got a significant lead. Dunno if any majority 'Remain' parts are left but i'd say it's still sorta early to say.

London is starting to run out of constituencies, and that's supposedly Remain's stronghold. The Leave lead stays steady at 830,000. We're literally down to the last fifth now. Either Remain gets a resounding success and takes everything or we're out.

And that's that - every single Scottish region has voted Remain(one of them by an admittedly squeaky wee margin). 62% Remain nationwide.

I think it's bed time then.

BBC just announced a leave win.

Following this, we need to unite the country. Regardless of result now, the country is split on this and if London/Scotland want in and everyone else bar some counties vote Out, we need to reform the country and come out stronger.

Birmingham voted Leave...it's over. Remain needed this. Unless London pulls something out the bag, but that's probably not going to happen.

Official turnout was 72%. Pretty good, but not as high as the Scottish Independence Referendum.

Today is going to suck. My Leave voting friend is visiting me later...le sigh. Is Euro 2016 on today? XD

So with a leave it is pretty certain that scotland will leave the UK correct?

The BBC just forecast a Leave win. Nobody seriously thinks Remain can win anymore. Show's almost over folks, Leave lead widened to 880,000,

It 'aint over 'till it's over!

'remain' just pulled back a significant chunk..

 Ustrello wrote:
So with a leave it is pretty certain that scotland will leave the UK correct?

Not certain no, but more likely than it was yesterday.

I have to admit, I'm very, very surprised. I never really thought UK would Leave.
Your resolve commands respect.

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:
So with a leave it is pretty certain that scotland will leave the UK correct?

Not certain no, but more likely than it was yesterday.

I mean wasn't stay razor thin last time? So you think that a leave EU vote would give the independent party a huge boost

 godardc wrote:
I have to admit, I'm very, very surprised. I never really thought UK would Leave.
Your resolve commands respect.

Quite frankly, the population has voted against every governmental and political/business elite's recommendations here. If that isn't a sign of how badly out of touch the leadership across Europe is, I don't know what is.

Regardless, it would appear Europe will be doing its soul searching on its own.

godardc wrote:I have to admit, I'm very, very surprised. I never really thought UK would Leave.
Your resolve commands respect.

Or pity, depending on how the next 20 years go.

Ustrello wrote:So with a leave it is pretty certain that scotland will leave the UK correct?

Could certainly trigger another referendum for them. Despite what economists think, the UK might come out stronger outside the EU. Scotland might want to still be a part of that.
The SNP would certainly push for it at least. Salmond believes they could.

I can't believe there will be ANOTHER polling in Scotland
How much money does that cost ?

 Ustrello wrote:
So with a leave it is pretty certain that scotland will leave the UK correct?

Certain? No.
Cause a huge debate and demand for a further independence referendum? Yes.

Will Scotland get one? Buggered if I know. Expect lots of trouble, raised voices and 45% badges to start appearing.

It would never work for us being in the EU. Our Head of State is also head of state for 15 other countries, including two of some of the world's richest countries Canada and Australia. We are already in a better union, the commonwealth realms, that is the union we should be working to build up. At least we all speak the same language.

 Ustrello wrote:

 Yodhrin wrote:

 Ustrello wrote:
So with a leave it is pretty certain that scotland will leave the UK correct?

Not certain no, but more likely than it was yesterday.

I mean wasn't stay razor thin last time? So you think that a leave EU vote would give the independent party a huge boost

Not necessarily. With the oil market crashing, Scotland's economy has gone to the dogs somewhat, it would be quantifiably poorer separate to the UK, even if we leave the Single Market. Not to mention that with everything going on now, nobody is going to have time to reorganise another scottish referendum in the immediate future. Perhaps in five years if things go badly.

Leave lead at 950,000 now.

A bit of bluster obviously, but the SNP, after the referendum said that if the UK left the EU they were holding another referendum regardless of London's permission.

Bluster of course.

But aye, to bed. Another day to be face palming against conservatives.

Labour really need to pull their finger out, now. The Tories are in disarray and won't last the next GE, the Lib Dems are all but gone on a governmental level, and we have UKIP riding this momentum all the way to the next election. If Labour can become the government this country has needed, and will continue to need, we can usurp the Tories, block UKIP--and hopefully kill the party off for good now it's achieved its goal of independence and serves no functional purpose--and start towards whatever future we just set ourselves on a course for.

If they can't do that... Well, I'm not sure even Remaining would have saved them.

It's my sincere hope that all the people throwing tantrums about the result will calm the hell down and actually try to improve this country for the better, but seeing as how many of them have vowed to simply jump ship and abandon it, I doubt we'll be so lucky.

Frankie Boyle:

Still, it's been good to see an election where we've focussed on what unites us, which, sadly, is hatred.

Northern Ireland; you're not helping!

Northern Ireland Leave 349,442

Northern Ireland Remain 440,437