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It'll most probably get released the same week as the Ambots for Necromunda. Probably along with some weird pun for the release. But I hope soon. I want the Ambots.
   
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Hoping its not too long as I've written rules for this chap to use in Lost Patrol...

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Portland

SamusDrake wrote:
Hoping its not too long as I've written rules for this chap to use in Lost Patrol...
Okay, I'm genuinely curious, what's the appeal in that game? I found it so horribly skewed that there was absolutely no draw for me. What gives it the longevity that you'd want to play it more than a few times, let alone home brew mechanics for it?


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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
Hoping its not too long as I've written rules for this chap to use in Lost Patrol...
Okay, I'm genuinely curious, what's the appeal in that game? I found it so horribly skewed that there was absolutely no draw for me. What gives it the longevity that you'd want to play it more than a few times, let alone home brew mechanics for it?



Some games take far too long to set up and resolve, whereas Lost Patrol is quick to get started and easy to modify into a far better game.

The 1st edition of the game was rather good but the recent 2nd edition broke the rules so much it was frustrating for the marine player and down right boring for the Tyranid player. GW tried to sugar coat it with "the marines are supposed to die" and that it saves money if you collect marines and tyranids. In this core form the 2nd edition has very little longevity indeed.

I loved the "evolving jungle" mechanic and found a pdf of the 1st edition rule book which confirmed what I had thought all along - the marines should roll more than one dice to score a 6 and the genestealers were selected for their appearance more than for their benefit of the game itself. Being a designer at heart and a big fan of films like The Most Dangerous Game, King Kong and Predator , I could see potential for events and rogue creatures to pose a threat to both players - not just the marines. In a nutshell, marines with better firepower odds, setting traps, event tables with a D20 and threats to the tyranid player.

I could go into more depth about how to modify Lost Patrol into a much more fulfulling game, but I don't want to derail this thread as that would be unfair for others here to discuss BSF. What I will do though is consider a new LP thread to share some ideas. I'm going to wait until I have play tested the Ambull scenario before doing so, but for a little teaser I'll be going with Tau Stealth suits instead of marines for that one...

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The beauty of Silver Tower and Shadows over Hammerhonk or whatever it was: A massive array of options for things to play. Bring in your own kitbashed/converted Stormcast guy and run a party of knights, bring in your Chaos dudes and run an all Chaos Party against the Silver Tower.

I do really love the models for Blackstone Fortress, but I sat around with a heap of Deathwatch and CSM bits hoping I could do the same. Here's hoping we see expansions for this game that allows exactly that with more 'generic' profiles.

Until then, I'm trying to figure out appropriate homebrew cards for various types of units in an Inquisitorial Warband.

Putting your political and ideological opinions in your signature isn't a clever way to get past the ban.

If you can't put that aside and discuss games with other people, you probably have an obsession and need professional help. 
   
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Portland

SamusDrake wrote:
The 1st edition of the game was rather good but the recent 2nd edition broke the rules so much it was frustrating for the marine player and down right boring for the Tyranid player. GW tried to sugar coat it with "the marines are supposed to die" and that it saves money if you collect marines and tyranids. In this core form the 2nd edition has very little longevity indeed.
Oh, we're in complete agreement then. I've got no beef with 1st edition- was a pretty decent Space Hulk light.

Doritos, yeah, really hoping they add a lot of breadth to the game. They set up so thoroughly pretty much any baddies, and a wide number of player options. Between niche stuff like mercenary orks and social necrons, I think Tyranids and Chaos are about the only who couldn't kind of fit a party.


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 spiralingcadaver wrote:
SamusDrake wrote:
The 1st edition of the game was rather good but the recent 2nd edition broke the rules so much it was frustrating for the marine player and down right boring for the Tyranid player. GW tried to sugar coat it with "the marines are supposed to die" and that it saves money if you collect marines and tyranids. In this core form the 2nd edition has very little longevity indeed.
Oh, we're in complete agreement then. I've got no beef with 1st edition- was a pretty decent Space Hulk light.

Doritos, yeah, really hoping they add a lot of breadth to the game. They set up so thoroughly pretty much any baddies, and a wide number of player options. Between niche stuff like mercenary orks and social necrons, I think Tyranids and Chaos are about the only who couldn't kind of fit a party.

Chaos could definitely work, but it would have to be subtle. Something like a noble who is part of a secret cult, but outwardly looks like a loyal Imperial citizen, or a radical Inquisitor who has crossed one line too many.

Tyranids would only work if it was a 4th gen hybrid sent on a scouting mission of some kind.

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Yeah, I guess that if the "imperial robot" can get in, there might be some subterfuge that gets them on board...

Personally, I'd love to see an inquisitor or two.


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I'm hoping that they start doing character packs, a bit like the old Quest character expansions, but these would be two characters per pack. The characters would be somewhat linked (like Taddeus the Purifier and Pious Vorne) with a new ship they can both use during/between adventures, plus all their associated rules/new items/cards/artefacts/etc.

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That would be super cool.

   
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From Faeit 212

Release date for "The Dreaded Ambull" Blackstone Fortress expansion is the
Black Library celebration weekend February 23/24. 35gbp 45euro.
[Thumb - BSF Ambull.jpg]

   
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what? so soon? that's in 3 weeks. $45 is a good price

i see pre orders are ready next week

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shadowsfm wrote:
what? so soon? that's in 3 weeks. $45 is a good price


£35, €45 is $60 probably preorder next week for release the week after

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So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...

   
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Wow. I was keen to pick one up but that's pretty darn steep.

Edit; looking through GW UK and NZ it seems 35GBP is $90NZ.

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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...


It’s a bit more than that 3 minis a rulebook and cards
   
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It's going to cost over a third the cost of the game its for. That's not acceptable.

   
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 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...
I don't have the game, but was considering getting that mini alone. But for that price... :( it's over three times what I had hoped...
   
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Bit on the expensive side, but the model looks ace and the extra gaming content will be worth it for sure.

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hvg3akaek wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...
I don't have the game, but was considering getting that mini alone. But for that price... :( it's over three times what I had hoped...


Unfortunately I don’t think anyone ever realistically thought it’d be $30/$35 Aus though really..
   
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Danny76 wrote:
hvg3akaek wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...
I don't have the game, but was considering getting that mini alone. But for that price... :( it's over three times what I had hoped...


Unfortunately I don’t think anyone ever realistically thought it’d be $30/$35 Aus though really..


$90.00 plus on our front.

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 Grot 6 wrote:
Danny76 wrote:
hvg3akaek wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...
I don't have the game, but was considering getting that mini alone. But for that price... :( it's over three times what I had hoped...


Unfortunately I don’t think anyone ever realistically thought it’d be $30/$35 Aus though really..


$90.00 plus on our front.


$60 USD.

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 DaveC wrote:
 H.B.M.C. wrote:
So that'll be AUD$98 here.

For a single model.

Jesus Christ GW...


It’s a bit more than that 3 minis a rulebook and cards


Completely within my "hahahaha no thanks" budget limits, though.

And I was looking forward to them, but at that price if I were to buy it I'd be sending the wrong message to GW.
   
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I think there's more to the box than just the model...
   
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That’s what they said about the Killteam commander boxes, for 2/3 that price, and I didn’t get any of those either. As another poster said, buying one will just send the wrong message.
Same reason I haven’t bought any beasts of nurgle. I don’t want to encourage $50 models that can come in units of 9.
   
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Yeah that price is insane for such a small expansion. That's a damn shame
   
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 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yeah that price is insane for such a small expansion. That's a damn shame

So what all comes in it, since you apparently know everything in it? I mean if you know that the price is insane for "such a small expansion".

All we know from the Open Day:
Ambull is a 60mm based model. Looks larger than UR025(the largest model in BSF).
There's the "hatchlings", which are small swarms.
There's a book--no page counts.
Cards(assumed from their talk of treasure and upgrades).

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 Kanluwen wrote:
 Tiberius501 wrote:
Yeah that price is insane for such a small expansion. That's a damn shame

So what all comes in it, since you apparently know everything in it? I mean if you know that the price is insane for "such a small expansion".

All we know from the Open Day:
Ambull is a 60mm based model. Looks larger than UR025(the largest model in BSF).
There's the "hatchlings", which are small swarms.
There's a book--no page counts.
Cards(assumed from their talk of treasure and upgrades).


It may not be too bad for you guys, but $100 is a bit paintful for us in Aus, considering how much came in the starter box and how much that cost. I dunno, a model and some hatchlings and some cards. I guess all you get for that price is a single tank, but that's probably why I don't buy tanks haha.
But for people in other countries it's most likely reasonable.
   
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GW prices are one of the few things that still make me happy I'm living in the UK nowadays

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 Haighus wrote:
GW prices are one of the few things that still make me happy I'm living in the UK nowadays


And one of the few reasons I regret leaving the UK to Aus
   
 
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