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2008/11/14 16:58:57
Subject: Master of the Forge and Digital Weapons
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Dominar
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Digital weapons are a 10 point upgrade to the MotF, but how do you determine when to use the reroll?
Specifically, the issue that I see cropping up is a MotF equipped with a power weapon (typically 3 attacks at I4) and his servo harness (grants the MotF another 2 attacks, but count as Power Fists at I1) not knowing when to declare the use of his Digiweapons.
How do you play it?
I can see some people using a 'prescient out-of-game' approach, where they make their power weapon attacks, then also roll their Servo Arm attacks just to see what the outcome is and declare digital weapons wherever it's most beneficial.
I can also see people declaring them alongside initiative, i.e. potentially sacrificing a reroll if the power weapon attacks all fail to wound but the servo arm attacks all do, or if 2/3 power weapon hits wound but all the servo arm attacks miss, that sort of thing.
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2008/11/14 17:05:11
Subject: Re:Master of the Forge and Digital Weapons
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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yeah,
I'd say you have to do it when you roll, in inititive order...
once you accept that the power weapon misses (saving the reroll for the I1 atacks) its a miss...
should both I1 attacks hit, then you've missd your chance to use the reroll and you can't back up and say your using the reroll on the powerweapon attack..
IF you allowed the MOTF to go 'back in time and reroll' he could the kill something which has already attacked (I3 Plague marine) but should have died before it attacked?! if that makes sense...
my view on it anyway...
Panic...
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2008/11/14 18:26:30
Subject: Master of the Forge and Digital Weapons
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Dominar
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Exactly. And that's the problem. There's no guidelines I can find for allowing rerolls for single models with multiple initiatives.
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2008/11/14 19:17:03
Subject: Re:Master of the Forge and Digital Weapons
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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The attacks would resolve at their initiative. Power weapon attacks first. Power fist attacks at the end of the round.
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2008/11/14 23:19:54
Subject: Master of the Forge and Digital Weapons
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Incorporating Wet-Blending
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I agree, use it or lose it. Once you've resolved an intiative step, there's no going back for re-rolls later.
If your opponent forgets something, allowing him to go back in time is one thing, but purposefully NOT taking the re-roll during the PW's initiative, means just that: NOT taking the re-roll. If the Servo-arm's attacks all hit, you're out of luck with the digiweapons.
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2008/11/19 22:45:37
Subject: Master of the Forge and Digital Weapons
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Pulsating Possessed Space Marine of Slaanesh
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Lordhat wrote:I agree, use it or lose it. Once you've resolved an intiative step, there's no going back for re-rolls later.
If your opponent forgets something, allowing him to go back in time is one thing, but purposefully NOT taking the re-roll during the PW's initiative, means just that: NOT taking the re-roll. If the Servo-arm's attacks all hit, you're out of luck with the digiweapons.
Yup. Lordhat's right. In all cases of the rules with re-rolls, it says you may. If you don't do it then, then you chose not.
No retroactive gaming!
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