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I'm playing a game against CSM soon and I know my opponent will be bringing Abaddon and a Greater Summoned Demon. It's only a 1750 pt. game. I'm bringing orks: 3x30 boyz, 9 kans, 1 dreff dread, big mek w/kff, mad doc grotsnik, and 11 kommandos + snikrot. I'm less worried about Abaddon then I am about that Greater Summoned Demon. What should I do: avoid the demon or try to mob it?

Not sure if you can avoid both characters since your Boyz are geared towards cc. Don't be afraid. Mob them and they will die.

The greater Daemon is not the one to worry about, Abaddon is the greater of the two threats. Best thing to do with either of them is to shoot them up from a distance or gang up on them with mass hth attacks. Neither option is going to be easy but expect heavy causulties if you try to do it in hth especially playing with orks. Avoiding them could be difficult with the ability to run. If you know what is army comp is you could try destroying any units with champions to prevent the greater daemon from entering the battle at all.

Abaddon can be devastating to Orks in HtH. If he gets the charge, then the Orks are hitting him on 4's and wounding on 6's. He'll shrug off most everything with his 2+ save. His 4+ save keeps him alive from the PowerKlaw long enough to hammer a big mob to nothing. He will usually get between 8-9 attacks a turn and kill 6-7 Orks. He'll win by 5-6 and combat resolution wounding will eliminate 10-12 Orks a combat phase. It won't take long for him to decimate a mob.

With all that being said the dice do roll ones every now and then and that's what you will have to force your opponent to do, roll some ones. Shooting Abaddon is critical with a big mob and getting the charge on him could be fatel for the Chaos player. If Abaddon is in a Land Raider you might not get the chance to shoot and charge him, if he is walking try and set the charge up on him.

heres a hint lots and lots and lots of shots and misiles and falmers,
the deamon is a weakling and is easy to pop.

Greater demons are really only distractions. Sure T6, but limited attacks(5 I think) and I 4. Plus, only the 4+ invul save. Any massed fire (dire avengers, any full squad rapid firing, Shoot boys, lootas, etc) will take her down almot all the way, or even cap her off. If shooting doesnt knock her down then regular boys attacks should be able to put 1 - 3 wounds on her and the claw will do about 2 average after her saves.

Follow the above advice about abadabadingdong. Shoot him if you can, you will get hurt less that way. If you have to charge him, do it overwhelmingly to force the ones.

Meph

YOU HAVE TO GET THE CHARGE against abaddon... period.

20 boyz charge...

2 or 3 wounds... The powerfist will finish the job... that is if he is solo. If he has help and your boyz are limited on the number of attacks on abaddon... that is trouble.


OR just use ghazkull. He will smash abaddon. A 2+inv save and T5... thats is serious.