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i don't see them removing fyreslayers so absolutely. dwarf book seems most likely, if the rumor is true

 His Master's Voice wrote:
Wonder if GW sees only one spot for "dwarves, but on fire" on the roster and they chose to hand it over to Chaos Dwarves.

If that's the sacrifice that must be made, sorry fireslayers.

 Shakalooloo wrote:

 Overread wrote:

Even more so than the two variations of Ork that are currently mashed together and yet feel like two entirely different styles of model, design and lore

What about the underground 'shroom-sniffin' goblins and the nitro-wolf-chariot-ridin' goblins that share a book?

To be fair until recently the wolfy goblins were basically 2 units - goblins on wolf and goblins on chariot with wolves. Much like the spider goblins were just goblins on a spider.
Lore wise they had depth, but model wise they were basically such a tiny model range that they were just an elite unit within a larger army. It's only very recently that the wolfy goblins gained a mounted leader and tandem wolf riders. I think if they got a few more units they'd start to feel more like their own theme and might then be viable to splinter off.

But its a fine line because right now they rely a lot on core goblin units; much like how Skaven have different flavours but all rely on very core units like clanrats and so forth.


Honestly its tricky and sometimes comes down to personal preference; but I'd still argue that each different clan of skaven still uses the very same design language. One just uses flesh more than machine parts; but both are twisted monstrocities. Orruks though have a very different design and even the core basic unit has an entirely different physiology.

Corrupted Garden of Morr terrain and endless spells for the Soulblight:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hiwjbwde/unearth-macabre-new-manifestations-and-faction-terrain-for-the-soulblight-gravelords/

Oh they're cool. The hand of Nagash looks bloody huge.

 Shakalooloo wrote:
Corrupted Garden of Morr terrain and endless spells for the Soulblight:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hiwjbwde/unearth-macabre-new-manifestations-and-faction-terrain-for-the-soulblight-gravelords/

god damn, i need a dozen of that terrain. that looks like a fantastic piece, especially with how modular it seems to be

manifestations are also very cool. glad GW is finally getting around to making sure everyone has those

I want the big hand of Nagash!

Nagash, Mortal Realms Ding-Dong-Ditch champion.

Sepluchres will go lovely with my existing Garden of Morr.

Nice, I'll add a box or two to my double Garden of Morr

New terrain looks good AND its not super-mega "takes up the whole middle of your table" size!

Endless Spells look fun - especially like the summoning swarms of bats approach! Very thematic for the force.

They're all pretty awesome.

SnotlingPimpWagon wrote:


It would suck for the players, for sure, if Fireslayers went the way of the dodo. I’m still salty about savage orcs, as I have an itch to do a savage/forest gobbos army for old world.
But wouldn’t be surprised if fireslayers got cut - probably the least popular army, that provides very low profits - their whole range is horrendous (corporate design written all over it), and it managed to suck the awesomeness of slayers which is no small feat. And as mentioned above - where do you really go with them to expand the range? Grot hewer of fyre? Fyre pony cavalry?

I mean, that is your opinion. I actually like the faction a lot. They have a distinct look and vibe, but have been heavily neglected.

What this reminds me of is the Dark Eldar of old, before they got a range refresh back in like 5th edition. The common thought was they were unpopular, but the reality was the range was just old and small. If GW would just commit, make a few more core units and a handful of other options, I am sure they would surge in popularity. But few people want a faction with like... 12 total units of which half are characters that are also bottom rung in performance too.

I will say that being a near-launch faction for AoS, being deeply involved in the lore to this point too, I can't imagine how they would squat them out. This seems a lot like they're gonna get rolled into another faction book like the Orks.

We've seen the same too with armies like Sisters of Battle which missed so many editions they didn't even have plastic troops. Now a mainstay army - but until their big plastic update they were that army everyone talked about but no one bought into.




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 em_en_oh_pee wrote:

I will say that being a near-launch faction for AoS, being deeply involved in the lore to this point too, I can't imagine how they would squat them out. This seems a lot like they're gonna get rolled into another faction book like the Orks.

Removing them is easy - GW stops selling the models and the army just vanishes. AoS is so bonkers huge that entire races can rise and vanish and no one bats an eyelid. There's also very limited sense of space and time in the setting so even losing all their territory and the like wouldn't really register on most maps or such. "Oh Fyreslayers - all yeah they were those ancient dwarves who bashed Urgold runes into themselves. They say that they simply boiled themsleves to death or that the Khadorans cheated them out of so much Urgold that now there's only one or two who still roam the land."

Hell, they could say the skaven somehow infected Ur-Gold centuries ago and when the time was right, they activated some spell that killed any fyreslayer with a ur-gold rune. Which would be at the very least, 95% of them.

The macguffin betrays them

They’ll give themselves an out by saying that the Fyreslayers sealed their holds to lick their wounds and gather their strength for a possible return at a later date, similar to how they wrote out Bonesplittas and Beasts of Chaos. That way they don’t have to change map markers!

Those additional mausoleums will look good with my Garden of Morr. Too bad they didn't include additional fences/walls as well to expand on the original.

Hopefully the roof isn't too hard to patch. The missing section doesn't really make sense for a metal roof.

 Gallahad wrote:
Those additional mausoleums will look good with my Garden of Morr. Too bad they didn't include additional fences/walls as well to expand on the original.

The Warcry: Crypt of Blood set has a few sections of corrupted/dilapidated walls/fences.

Hopefully the roof isn't too hard to patch. The missing section doesn't really make sense for a metal roof.

Which part of the roof are you seeing as metal? It all looks like damaged stone to me. There's nothing to suggest it's meant to be metal as far as I can tell.

Oooh! Don’t remember seeing those before.

anyone know what was updated in todays few updates?
im particuarly interested in soulblight... what changed?

 usernamesareannoying wrote:
anyone know what was updated in todays few updates?
im particuarly interested in soulblight... what changed?

Only change for Soulblight is removing the Vargskyr from the First of the Vyrkos list. You can check the battle profiles document for the changes.

Much sadness to lose the Vargskyr!

It's one of the Cursed City models that I hope gets a new main-army sculpt in the future and comes around again.

Overall, looks like some relatively small changes in reaction timing (you can't use a reaction to react to an opponent's reaction if you've already passed on using a reaction in the same chain), Orruk and non-S2D Prince FAQs, and a few little changes to what heroes can be put into non-hero slots.


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 Overread wrote:
Much sadness to lose the Vargskyr!

It's one of the Cursed City models that I hope gets a new main-army sculpt in the future and comes around again.

It's still in the SBGL lineup, just doesn't benefit from Volga's control score ability anymore! Sorry if that was unclear!

Ahh still I expect to lose the model in this latest book update that's coming - since the kit isn't sold by GW any more.

 Overread wrote:
Ahh still I expect to lose the model in this latest book update that's coming - since the kit isn't sold by GW any more.

We have odds on how much of the cursed city stuff is going to stay? So many cool minis in that box.

 Overread wrote:
Ahh still I expect to lose the model in this latest book update that's coming - since the kit isn't sold by GW any more.

Maybe? From what I recall, we've got a warscroll count for the new Tome and there's a net gain of 8 scrolls assuming it counts spearhead (11 if not). The spells and terrain are five, and we're getting a new horse vampire (everything else looks to replace units at 1:1). The new spearhead is four, so we're losing two scrolls (or gaining five more that we haven't seen, but that seems less likely!). I think the general consensus is that those would be the VLoZD and Terrorgeist since the new dragon kit doesn't look to build either, but the Vargskyr could potentially replace one of those.


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 Nevelon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Ahh still I expect to lose the model in this latest book update that's coming - since the kit isn't sold by GW any more.

We have odds on how much of the cursed city stuff is going to stay? So many cool minis in that box.

Most of it: See above maths!

EDIT: Math was off, as I counted three Spearhead rules pages in the warscroll count. We're actually due to gain another warscroll, not lose two! That could be another unit we haven't seen, or Cado's new unit might be split into two or three and we're either full up or are still losing one.

 Nevelon wrote:

 Overread wrote:
Ahh still I expect to lose the model in this latest book update that's coming - since the kit isn't sold by GW any more.

We have odds on how much of the cursed city stuff is going to stay? So many cool minis in that box.

My bet - 100% of Cursed City models from the boxed set will be lost
The only ones we'll keep will be those that are sold on their own - so the leader in both forms and the two characters (rat guy and the lady with the mask or wing).

I figure the skeletons won't be a problem as they'll just blend into regular skeleton troops if you've got the models. A few of the named heroes could evne just be stand-in necromancers in your army.


I'd love to see new sculpts of some of the other troop and monster types from the set, but it will be likely a long while before we see them as GW have been updating other things for the core army. Heck we've still likely got a new Terrorgast kit at some point; possibly a new Corpse Cart and Throne models at some point too to bring them more into line with AoS designs and Soulblight asthetics.

Well wasn't expecting this fella as the first Weta (if any Weta at all for that matter.)

Also, plushy Fyreslayer. So let the rumours end.

 Inquisitor Gideon wrote:
Also, plushy Fyreslayer. So let the rumours end.

So it's confirmed Fyrslyrs get squatted? Nagash's latest ghastly spell turns them all into harmless plush dwarfs so they no longer play a significant role going forward?

Let's add the link to the big merchandise article for the sake of convenience:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/f07zlb44/warhammer-relics-brilliant-new-gear-from-the-warhammer-merch-store/

On a slightly unrelated note, I want that Scarab.

the scarab is really cute

Gitz full release up next week:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/k9c6bz33/sunday-preview-the-gitmob-gallop-into-the-fray/