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OK, you only get 5, so don't waste them on things we already know we are getting (plastic stormies, valks) or things we won't (doctrines).

My picks:

- Very flexible command squads like the IG senior officer or Inquisition retinue. Larger sizes, models that add abilities like bonus to reserve rolls, shooting at deep strikers and so on. Lots of modeling options too!
- A Rambo-like super vet (though not a named character if possible) so there's someone in the army who can fight besides the officer (which never worked for me).
- Useful enginseer, maybe an HQ option so adeptus mech armies can be (sort of) an option.
- Keep cameo as an option! My SWAT team army is waiting to hear before I paint!
- A jeep or buggy, come on, it's time and the IG needs mobility. I know there's not even been a rumor of one but I can hope.

So what's your top 5?

1. LOTS O TANKS
2. Sentinels wih assault cannons that can scout
3. Guard bikes
4. Ogrins that dont suck
5. Ratlings survive to sneak on

Thats all i want

1. That
2. They
3. Get
4. It
5. Right

BYE

1. Competitive
2. Cool
3. Flexible
4. No awesome but useless units (Ogryns much?)
5. No single 'best' list

1) Release the Necron codex instead.


Sorry, had to.

The 5 original ideas all sound awesome. Rambo, Super-Tech & Flexible Com... no wait, the other two are important as well... But mainly the Rambo and Super... and the flexible comma...

For me, I'd like to see units that combine in new and interesting ways. For example, "If you include a X sentinel in your army, then your X Guard units count as having X special ability." Kind of how exarchs give their unit a special ability, but without the need for the conferring unit to be IN that unit.

I know that is something that happens in several armies, but I'd like to see it as THE main feature of a IG army. I'd like to see regular units conferring abilities on OTHER regular units rather than only special characters conferring abilities elsewhere. Maybe each troops being able to buy special abilities for either and elite, fast attack or heavy support unit, and vice versa.

You may choose 1 option from the following list:
1. Your unit of IG troopers may purcase a lascannon for X points for any ONE sentinel in your army.
2. Your IG troopers may pay Y points for your rough riders to count as a scoring unit.
3. Your IG troopers may pay Z points for your command squad to include up to 2 heavy weapon troopers.
etc etc..

Your Catachan Jungle fighters unit may choose ONE option from the following list
1. Confer te infiltrate ability on ONE IG troopers unit for A points.
2. Confer the scout ability on ONE rough riders unit for B points.
etc etc..

Trouble is, I think it would be very difficult to balance. There would have to be limitations about how many abilities each unit could acquire, obviously, but even that would have risks.

Top 5:

better structure and less needed errata for typos

better cover save for models in camo-paint-scheme, so time spent painting dozens of models pays off

entrechment and bunkers,gun emplacements as upgrades

"airstrike" / "artillery" support , maybe minefields

get a free Tank for every 50th guardsmen

1) That 1500 points of guardsmen with lasguns have a 50/50 shot against 1500 points of ork boyz.

2) That guard heavy weapons cost less than the same weapons in marine hands, due of course to the lower survivability and lower chance to hit. This should ideally be a 3/4 ratio (marines get two hits every three guns, guard get two hits ever four guns, so if a gun costs a marine 40 points, it should cost a guardsman 30)

3) That advisors will be competative choices.

4) That none of the models I already own get deprecated.

5) That they don't just lose kill-point missions for showing up.

1. Option to equip Conscripts/Trainee's with pistol+ccw or dual ccw's.

2. Option to equip basic guardsmen with shotguns or even pistol+ccw instead.

3. "Off Table" effects like airstrikes, bombing runs, smoke barrages (ala Flames of War), etc.

4. Effective advisors, which in addtion to above-named items, I'd personally love to see "Field Engineers" or "Combat Engineers" incorporated somehow, maybe as a variant of the Engiseers or Death Korp of Krieg combat-engineers.

5. Ork flesh buring heavy spot lights.

1. That every single choice in the army will be worth taking

2. That there will be some sort of purchase-able trench or bunker, or one of those cool tarantula things, or those little mini turrets that have heavy bolters in them.

3. That the advisor rule will change, and that all advisor point costs will be decreased. When I originally started, I wanted a Commissar in all of my line squads because I thought that they were cool...

4. What FlatlanderBoss2.0 said above, 'off the table' things would be cool. Preliminary bombardment would be sweet, airstrikes as well, etc.

5. Flexible and can adapt, yet is still at least semi-competitive so that Guard players don't insta-lose against some armies.

I would complain more about KP's but my friends are cool and we all decided to not play with KP's.

Redbeard wrote:1) That 1500 points of guardsmen with lasguns have a 50/50 shot against 1500 points of ork boyz.

This is actually a pretty much perfect (not to mention elegant ) summary.

1.) Each squad get 2 heavy stubbers or grenade launchers for free , may upgrade .

2.) Ogryn are monsterous creatures and have eternal warrior , change nouthing else on them.

3.) Guard may "stand and shoot" their lasguns instead of fighting the first round they are assulted. Any kills count toward the combat res.

4.) Spotters that can call in artillery bombardments (0-1 , elite , camo cloaks , 2 man , ST10 ap3 heavy4 blast Barrage).

5.) Defensive works , (you will need to bring models to rep.) You know like earthen ramparts , sand bag emplacements , barbed wire , tank traps , mind fields exc.

I have only one wish:

They are utterly and completely doomed against Tyranids.

1. Doctrines are still around in some form, and are not tied to special characters
2.Some squads in the codex still retain the ability to Deep Strike.
3. Rough Riders and Basilisks are still in it
4. Hardened Veterans are an upgrade to regular infantry
5. IG become less vulnerable to Kill Points, while not being made overpowered in such missions.

Sincity wrote:
2.) Ogryn are monsterous creatures and have eternal warrior , change nouthing else on them.

SNIP
5.) Defensive works , (you will need to bring models to rep.) You know like earthen ramparts , sand bag emplacements , barbed wire , tank traps , mind fields exc.

On #2 gotta disagree. Ogryn are big fat strong guys, not demons from hell. Imagine an elephant it can squish you, it can probably smash your car but it cannot survive an anti-tank missile or crush a tank. Ogryn need something, maybe just a lower points cost but making them IG demons is not the way to go.

#5 depends on GW making 'trenches of death'. If they do then yeah, IG will get the option, if not then forget about it.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:On #2 gotta disagree. Ogryn are big fat strong guys, not demons from hell. Imagine an elephant it can squish you, it can probably smash your car but it cannot survive an anti-tank missile or crush a tank. Ogryn need something, maybe just a lower points cost but making them IG demons is not the way to go.

Agreed but it's exactly what Tyranid Warriors got when what they needed was help vs. heavy bolters and such. If Orgyns are "improved" in May they will get Eternal Warrior.

1. lacklustre troops (anything from the elites or fast attack sections and advisors) are cheaper, better, fieldable in larger numbers or all three.
2. Heavy weapons get logical and fair basing rules.
3. Carapace armoured armies are supported.
4. Storm Trooper/Grenadiers, Rough Riders Ogryns, Ratlings and Hardened Veterans may be fielded in platoons.
5. Old kit coming back includes Rapier Laser Destroyers.

I dont care,it should just be better!

That 90% of the request on this thread never come true. It would make IG the most powerful codex in production.

Kid_Kyoto wrote:

Sincity wrote:
2.) Ogryn are monsterous creatures and have eternal warrior , change nouthing else on them.

SNIP
5.) Defensive works , (you will need to bring models to rep.) You know like earthen ramparts , sand bag emplacements , barbed wire , tank traps , mind fields exc.

On #2 gotta disagree. Ogryn are big fat strong guys, not demons from hell. Imagine an elephant it can squish you, it can probably smash your car but it cannot survive an anti-tank missile or crush a tank. Ogryn need something, maybe just a lower points cost but making them IG demons is not the way to go.

#5 depends on GW making 'trenches of death'. If they do then yeah, IG will get the option, if not then forget about it.

Oh , sorry , I though you just wanted to hear what we wanted to see. I didn't realize we were going to debate them also. Many of the picks here are utterly stupid (including one of your own) , I was just putting my picks out there rather than nay-saying other peoples pick.

Without number for standard IG, Lasgun dropped to strength 2, Lasgun has special gets hot rule - on a 1 the shot hits and causes str 4 ap 6 but the guardsman dies.

Not really, although the without number style rule would fit the fluff. I think if they fixed the kp and make the upgrades a bit cheaper IG would be quite competitive.

1. No ratlings
2. No beastmen
3. Bikes, not horses
4. Bikes
5. No ratlings



Its time for the imperial guard to stop being the joke army with tiny men and idiots on horses.

1. Infantry squads=.5 KP
2. Make the lasgun Rapid Fire 2
3. We're getting the Valk and storm upgrade.
4. Regular Flamer downgrade to Tanks making them more mobile.
5. A movement or initiative reducing Special weapon

I say that the codex makes sense, my friend just started playing IG and he can't make any sense of it, i wised it was more like the SM codex easy to understand

I say that the codex makes sense, my friend just started playing IG and he can't make any sense of it, i wised it was more like the SM codex easy to understand

I say that the codex makes sense, my friend just started playing IG and he can't make any sense of it, i wised it was more like the SM codex easy to understand

I say that the codex makes sense, my friend just started playing IG and he can't make any sense of it, i wised it was more like the SM codex easy to understand

Death gear do you have a problem with your computer?

I'd like to have the option to have my soldiers abilities based on their training, not special charicters with magic rules that will fall into "counts as" land.

and more flexible and cheaper options.

I'd like the guard to not feel like S3 T3 SM, that's the SoB's job.

I'd like to see actual bonuses for playing a static gunline with special abilities that reduce the boring point-and-click nature of static gunline gameplay. Massed volley fire should become viable, not assault bait for outflanking or fleet/infilstriking line breakers.

Illeix wrote:I'd like to have the option to have my soldiers abilities based on their training, not special charicters with magic rules that will fall into "counts as" land.

You're fresh outta luck there I'm afriad. We're getting 'Generic Special Characters' in place of our Doctrines.

BYE