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Well, for kicks, I was going to build a conversion army, a mechanicus army to be exact. Personally i think it would be awesome, especially having those skitarii. Awesome. Anyway, what do you guys think.

Sounds cool.

The Firebase web mag had a beautiful mechanicus army in it - with cyborg rough riders and everything.

It was beautifully done.

Do it! AdMech is awesome.

The only question is whether you're going to do it as Witch Hunter freakshow (with Guard allies), or Guard with Inquisitional allies.

Personally, I'd hold off on Guard until the new book comes out in May.

Well, it wouldn't actually be using statlines from units, like IG. It would be almost purely conversion\scratch except tanks and guns.

Right. You'll do a ton of conversion work.

But you'll want the army to be playable "counts as" something? Right?

The natural match for AdMech is Guard/Freak or Freak/Guard, depending on the Skittarii / Mechanicus balance of forces.

With Guard up in the air until May, the Skittarii portion, along with the Ordnance portion is somewhat questionable.

The only thing you can count on list-wise is that WH Codex won't change dramatically, so you'll be sure to have Arco-Flagellants, Penitent Engine, Orbital Strike, etc. as usable elements. Along with Skittarii Platoon, AF, Sentinels, and Leman Russ. But the details of what a Platoon or Sentinel might be could change quite a bit.

Hence, my recommendation to wait on the Guard parts

Eh, it's less of a "this sounds like a super solid winning army" and more of a "this sounds like super fun to build". So it wont necessarily "count as" anything. But i geuss i could "count as" if it turns out to be a solid army

If you take Abnett's version of the AdMech forces from Titanicus, you could probably even rep them as SM or Orks.

I don't understand how you're going to play with the army if you don't intend on it counting as anything, stats-wise.

Otherwise, it's probably the most popular freeform idea in 40k, but I'd like to see it done right for once.

I've heard of someone using a Mechanicus Army that counts as Tyranids for gaming purposes, and I have to say that it sounds infinitely more interesting than redoing the same old Guard/Inquisition Adeptus Mechanicus force.

Well, if you're just treating it as sculpture, OK...

Mechanicus should have shown up waaaayyyy before the necrons.

Well, I was reading up on other peoples 'counts as' mechanicus armies, and it seems you aren't too keen on them. How do you think they could be better.

Comrade Amadayeus wrote:Well, for kicks, I was going to build a conversion army, a mechanicus army to be exact. Personally i think it would be awesome, especially having those skitarii. Awesome. Anyway, what do you guys think.

I think it will look great sitting on your shelf with your Lost and the Damned, and Squat army. Gork and Mork forbid that you break ranks and play with an army that you use creativity and modification in.

Seriously, build it, play it, make up your stats for it and post some picks. I, for one, would hail the Idea of using it in a good game with no trout rules geek trying to snipe it at every turn and just play it for the fun.

Huzzah!!!

Please post picks when you get some ready.

Not only should you build it for the sake of building it, but I really think you should come up with what it is going to count as. I'm sure it would look fine sitting on a shelf in your home, but for more people to see it, you should probably take it out and play with it. I'm not trying to tell you what to do with your own models, but I'm sure people would like to see it played.

For what it is worth, if GW did release rules and models for the adeptus mechanicus, and they were halfway decent, I would probably buy 500$ of it immediately.

1. Well. i'm building a statline for the entire army atm. And I know mostly how i'm doing a couple of the units.

2. Where are the GW rules and units and why has no one mentioned them before now.

Comrade Amadayeus wrote:1. Well. i'm building a statline for the entire army atm. And I know mostly how i'm doing a couple of the units.

2. Where are the GW rules and units and why has no one mentioned them before now.

Thats what I mean, there are no GW rules and units for mechanicus. If there *where* I would get a huge order in a heartbeat. Even if they just produced models, I'd get them

Ooooh, i see now.'


Also, for the first troop choice, Skitarii Skirmishers. Basically barbarians, I'm thinking of using marauder models unless there's better "barbarian-y looking models i don't know about. (And yes, they will need boinic conversions)

Comrade Amadayeus wrote:Ooooh, i see now.'


Also, for the first troop choice, Skitarii Skirmishers. Basically barbarians, I'm thinking of using marauder models unless there's better "barbarian-y looking models i don't know about. (And yes, they will need boinic conversions)

They have some art, but no models. You might look to that for inspiration.

I would use Orks in a heartbeat.

yeah, but. Skitarii are explained (where i read) as barbarians and warriors from all these different planets and given bionics and rage basically. They mechanicus-ized them and trained them. And I'm kinda breaking the Skitarii from a whole group into "types", and so far, the way i'm doing them they probobly would "count as" Orks atm because of the way im doing it. Skirmishers would probobly be slugga's or boys or whatever. Normal support would eb shootas and something like the Reclaimers (haven't settled on a name) would be nobs or armored nobs or somethin. I'm pretty close to finalizing the stat lines for most of the troop choices as of now. So i'm going to post those up later, i'm getting my first batch of models to mechanussize later today. It will either be a WW2 tank i'm converting or some marauders or great-swords*.

(*great-swords - going to use the models for Reclaimers**. Big sword weilding buggers)
**Reclaimers - name is kind of dumb, what do you guys think. They are armored biotic great-swords basically.

I think it's a great idea. I love well-done AdMech armies, and I always wanted the limited edition Skullz Adeptus Mechanicus set. Of course it took like a million Skullz to get one and I was just getting into the hobby and had basically no money. They were sweet models though...

Anyway, yeah. I say go for it. If you're feeling like converting or scratch-building the models, just go for it! You can figure out what it counts as later, if you have too. If you've got the inspiration and the motivation, I say start now while it's fresh.

Make a lot of spider legged tanks, we dont see enough spider legged tanks.

What i realy want is to see a spider legged warlord titan, now that would be very cool.

I'd maybe go with a Tau rules base. When people throw out orcs or nids, they sound cool in theory but wouldn't the AdMech have better technology and guns than that? I also see them as a lot less of a CC army and much more shooty, thus the Tau. Marines may also work, though it wouldn't be as much fun IMO

I've had mine for years. Took it to Canadian GT in 2001 as Iron Warriors. It evolved into Elysian Drop Troopers in 2002-2003 (don't ask, long story).

Finally mutated into Imperial Guard:Abhuman/Slave Levies to represent the dudes always being able to move and fire and shrugging off shots of small arms.

The Skulls Limited Edition set and many Engiseers and Forge World Tech Priests are scatted around and Servitors for every guardsmen. Every tank was walking around on legs and even the original Robots being used as Ogryns.

Someone mentioned $500 above they'd pay instantly for a Ad-Mech army. That was pretty much the Troops choices.

Fought like crap though.

Ad-Mech armies rule because they are a convertor and modellers dream....but unlike Orky know-wots, they sort of need to be well done

Make one.

Ok, well first off, the mechanicus is actually massively CC as far as i know from the "titanicus" book. three thousand close combat skitarii (pretty much) that were drafted from savage worlds and given boinics.

BTW - I got myself a Stermgeschutz III tank (1/48 scale so it's kinda small, im thinking anti tank vehicle) and it's drying from a spray paint coat.

On the original post; LOVE the idea. I am more of a player than a modeler, so I would be a lot more interested in that aspect, but either or. Do it. The Dragon bids you do it.

Ok, I have taken pictures at pretty much every point so far on my mini-tank (looks to be about 2 man atm, it's pretty small, darn you 1/48th size!) and it's just about ready, so i'm starting the painting now, and finishing it later today, after school >.<.

EDIT: Once this is done i'm going to open a P&M post to cover these guys, i'm loving them so far.

I'll just restate for the record.

You really should consider building you AdMech army by following a Codex from GW. You will have trouble finding opponents. I think it is an awesome idea to modle an AdMech army but the conversation between us would still go along the lines of;

Player A; "Would you like to play my AdMech army?"
Player B; "You have made an AdMech army?"
Player A; "Yep"
Player B; "Have you really made an AdMech army?
Player A; "Yep....again"
Player B; "Awesome! What codex have you used?"
Player A; "I have made my own"
Player B; "No, I meant what army does your AdMech count as?"
Player A; "No one. I have made my own rules"
Player B; "Erhm.....ok, tell you what. I'd rather play that SM army over there. Good luck though"

This is of course just my oppinion, but I don't think I am alone in this.

Have you seen the Lauis Rift campaign back in White Dwarf a couple years ago? That was fantastic.

I'd play against this, at least occasionally, if it was essentially a mix of units from different Codices with a 5% 'surcharge' on unit costs to keep things expensive... Kind of like how the old VDR rules massively overpriced 'stock' designs built in the system.

I'm currently adding touches to the Tank atm then I will post it up along with pictures, because i'm sure as sure that you guys could have improvements