Fairly Solid Necron Rumors - (updated 5/5 with new stuff)

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**Herr Dexter**

This rumor just surfaced on HeresyOnline:

confirmed by my local GWS store, cant say who or they might face legal action lol, necrons annouced 22nd october - 29 october including november white dwarf, released/pre-order after that 5th november onwards.

followed by:

So glad someone else said it first. Although they only know because some prat inside GW leaked some info out about it.

And not like the GK codex "leak".

(Source)

Fingers x-ed, I guess...

**Matt.Kingsley**

Hopefully...

...Downloading file 'RedHarvest.exe'...

**Son_Of _Deddog**

There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..

**Just Dave**

Son_Of _Deddog wrote:There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..

For those wondering, this is the model in question:

Spoiler:

It's nothing new; it's basically a model designed off an old Goodwin sketch, but it by no means the a new GW model or certain to appear in the new dex.

**Son_Of _Deddog**

Fair do's....

**GamzaTheChaos**

I won't get excited over this news. But I can hope

**Sunoccard**

Just Dave wrote:
Son_Of _Deddog wrote:There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..

For those wondering, this is the model in question:

Spoiler:

It's nothing new; it's basically a model designed off an old Goodwin sketch, but it by no means the a new GW model or certain to appear in the new dex.

I really hope that doesn't become a transport, it looks hideous, I don;t want to be playing Space Tomb Kings, I want to be playing NECRONS.

**Ascalam**

It would need a rework to attract me, but the frame is ok.

**Cerebrium**

That model has been around for ages. It's based on a really old piece of Necron concept art.

**Son_Of _Deddog**

I've seen the art-just not the model. I don't think the paint job does it any favours...

**CthuluIsSpy**

Sunoccard wrote:
Just Dave wrote:
Son_Of _Deddog wrote:There's a pic of a new model at the bottom of that thread..Well, new to me anyway..

For those wondering, this is the model in question:

Spoiler:

It's nothing new; it's basically a model designed off an old Goodwin sketch, but it by no means the a new GW model or certain to appear in the new dex.
I really hope that doesn't become a transport, it looks hideous, I don;t want to be playing Space Tomb Kings, I want to be playing NECRONS.

That does not look like a necron vehicle. Necron vehicles look like floating pieces of old architecture, not fugly boats.

**NecronLord3**

It's an old conversion. Nothing new here.

**fursphere**

Wouldn't a dedicated transport - one where you load up your Necrons like other armies do - be a huge step backwards?

Teleportation man! We don't need transports!

**Ascalam**

I think the going theory at one point was a flying gate, like a lith portal.

Other rumors point to skiffs like the DE have, but better armoured and slower.

We'll find out eventually, and then proceed to whine about how we wanted it another way, as usual

**KilroyKiljoy**

Ascalam wrote:I think the going theory at one point was a flying gate, like a lith portal.

Other rumors point to skiffs like the DE have, but better armoured and slower.

We'll find out eventually, and then proceed to whine about how we wanted it another way, as usual

I'd say yes if this was any other Army, but this is Necrons. here will be more overabundance of joy than usual, and the whining will not commence until much later.

**Ascalam**

That is one perk of not having an update for a decade.. You might well be right

Much the same with the DE. The whining (from those actually playing them) was relatively low. Those facing the new and improved DE were making up the shortfall though

**Isengard**

Brother SRM wrote:I never think of GW as being "with it" enough to check forums for rumors on their own product, but it's a possibility.

Apparently they have a small dedicated team whose job is to sweep the web and check for anything they don't like (infringements of their IP, sites selling in ways they dislike, etc, etc). What an easy job! Supposedly some others are paid to just play their games, such as Warhammer online continuously to see how they work out.

**CthuluIsSpy**

fursphere wrote:Wouldn't a dedicated transport - one where you load up your Necrons like other armies do - be a huge step backwards?

Teleportation man! We don't need transports!

Agreed. I actually made some proposed rules for it.

**Sanon**

What's to get excited over?

Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-

Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.

**Just Dave**

Sanon wrote:What's to get excited over?

Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-

Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.

(if it's true)

Welcome to Games Workshop. Please leave your money and fortitude at the door before entering...

**Vermillion**

Sanon wrote:What's to get excited over?

Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-

Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.

Yes, we've been saying this for about a decade and a half.

On topic I'm gutted. If the rumours are true got necrons, and then Eldar and DA in whichever order. Guess I am choosing one and my metal warriors that actually look threatening are staying stowed away for a bit.
Hoping the rumours are right and I'll buy some in 6th ed IF their codex is still viable. I remember what you did with DA GW!!!!

**Sanon**

Just Dave wrote:
Sanon wrote:What's to get excited over?

Have to buy more warriors -and- have to get expensive transports now like -EVERYONE ELSE-

Seems like greedy design decisions rather than unique and interesting.

(if it's true)

Welcome to Games Workshop. Please leave your money and fortitude at the door before entering...

Meh, I already decided not to touch GW when each time I decided I'd start, made an army list, and saw that 1/3 of my purchases or more were going to transports.

Was holding on to hope that the Necrons wouldn't be like this though, since I love anything with an Egyptian theme. I'm currently awaiting Tau to either A. Become a melee heavy force with transports, or B. Get boosted extras for being ranged in transports.

**Kevin949**

Herr Dexter wrote:Just looked at Necron subpage on WH40k Armies at http://www.games-workshop.com/gws/catalog/armySubUnitCats.jsp?catId=cat440255a&rootCatGameStyle=

We all remember how most units dissappeared from there rescently. Now it looks like all models are back up on the site. Even more of them even.
Seeing "Necron Lord with Warscythe" and that 'ol cheesy 2ed Necron Lord with Staff brought back into HQ from Collectable section... meybe they are finally selling out remains before announcing new codex / minis?
Toughts?

EDIT:
Old Codex still missing.

If you look closely you'll notice that many of the models are not available to "add to cart" however.

**FalkorsRaiders**

fursphere wrote:Wouldn't a dedicated transport - one where you load up your Necrons like other armies do - be a huge step backwards?

Teleportation man! We don't need transports!

You don't like transports? Everyone likes transports. That's why all the other armies have them. You know what? You don't want transports, you don't get transports. now you get to "teleport", which is the new word for walking, since now necrons can't walk. or shoot. or assault. You know what, why even bother with necrons. Let's update space marines again. at least they appreciate transports.

I agree, the necrons shouldn't use transports, but should teleport. I personally won't use transports, even if they have front, back, and side armor of 15, can hold 20 models, shoot 20 S 10 AP 1 shots a turn and cost 1 point a piece. okay, i'd use those, just never have my necrons in them.

**tetrisphreak**

So probably wish listing on my part but who else is hoping necrons get universal resistance to poison, making it all wound on 5+? Fits the fluff as they are fleshless and metal, plus it spits in tyranid breakfast as well as venom spam de.

Again wishlisting, but it would be awesome.

**wyomingfox**

For you...I would prefer it better if not all 5th edition codices had an easy button when it came to beating nids.

**tetrisphreak**

wyomingfox wrote:For you...I would prefer it better if not all 5th edition codices had an easy button when it came to beating nids.

To quote my favorite Villain in an animated movie, Syndrome: "When everyone's super, no one will be!"

Codex creep sucks while waiting for your own personal brand. Once everyone is up to snuff and at the same power level, the enjoyment of the game will be that much greater. Look at warmachine/hordes -- Every unit has some awesome cool power or statline, but nobody calls cheese because their armies have just as much awesomesauce as the others. 40K needs that. Since we won't get a universal update to every codex at once, I just say take it as it comes and hope for the best.

btw i have over 10,000 points of nids and got screwed royally with the 5th ed codex...as did many other nid players. some people are able to play competitively but it seems that in my meta, my bugs just don't stand a chance

**NecronLord3**

A new rumor via Blood of Kittens, could be a game changer:

http://bloodofkittens.com/blog/2011/10/12/network-news-the-necron-rumor-you-need-to-know-and-more/

Over the last few months many have noticed rumors surrounding GW releases have been to reduced to a slow drip, instead now get the ludicrous rumors and speculation. At BoK we often hold on to many rumors that sound too implausible in the hopes of scrying the world for verification, this has led us to keep one particular Necron rumor sealed because of possible game breaking power. With the new Necrons seemly a few weeks (because one manager of a random GW store couldn’t be talking out of his ass) from rebirth I think it is time to let this one out of carbonite. It needs notation that this rumor comes in two versions that could end up conflicting with one another, so here is both so the Internet can decide.

Ok, babbling over on to the rumor…

Rumor has it that a new Necron shooting attack can cause large swaths of your opponents army in a new interesting way. How it works is simple…

Necron Shoots Unit
Necron Hits Unit
Necron player allocates where the wound will be (how this is worded I have no idea)
All identical models to the one just shot are now hit
Roll to wound all models that are identical
Make armor saves were applicable

Here is an example. I shoot Necron weapon at a squad of Long Fangs. I hit and chose my wound to be rolled on a Missile Launcher Long Fang. All Missile Launcher Long Fangs IN THE ENTIRE ARMY are now hit. Now think take this a step further. What if I shoot a Ork Boy?

Here is the other way this weapon could work.

Necron Shoots Unit
Necron Hits Unit
Even though I only hit once I roll to wound every model in that unit.
Opponent makes armor saves where applicable

Now this doesn’t sound as scary as the first example, but it is basically GK Cleansing Fire power for Necrons. This version also fits in with chatter about multiple weapons that deal with horde armies.

Enter highly speculative realm that shouldn’t be taken as facts.

My fear though is that both these rumors are true. Here is a way it could potential work. One type of Necron gets the lesser version of this has this weapon. Another Necron lets say a Special Character gets the power to strike at all identical models army wide. I have a feeling that either way this weapon will be short-range, one shot, low str, and no ap value otherwise we are looking at some game breaking territory.

At least one of these rumors should happen which one though…

Well there you have it folks we are in the stretch run.

**Battle Brother Ambrosius**

No more We'll be back? There goes the whole "unstoppable army of doom that will destroy the Galaxy" fluff. Sounds interesting, good thing they will probably not be table-raping monsters like back in 3ed. The units sound reasonable, and I think will be pretty balanced. I also like the idea of named characters.

**Stvafel**

Hm the first one sounds pretty damn nasty, but as mentioned it probably would have a short range, expensive and on some sort of special character to limit the numbers.

One positive effect though, this would be devastating vs spam lists like BA razorspam and that I would applaud.