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Eldar : Revenamt Titan ( doubtful though... they'll take easier way out and make some scorpions -_-

Tau: Probably more skimmer tanks :"/

Necron: Pylon is easy to cast, but not that popular

Chaos / Marines : No idea :x

Others:

They definetly need to make a Titan for Chaos Daemons. That would be beyond awesome, and pretty hard to actually screw up.

Somehow, I think they could easily do Necrons justice by giving them one of the C'Tan in massive form (Like the Outsider, since we don't know what any C'Tan besides the Deceiver and Nightbringer actually tend to look like). Even by pulling a long-dead C'Tan out of ancient 40k history, they'd be doing them better justice than a friggin pylon.

Tau could easily receive a massive battlesuit, and it would probably look cooler than half of the existing Titans, anyway.

For Witch Hunters, I'd like to see some strange cross between gothic architecture and a walker. Though that's probably just me.

It'd be nice if all the armies had a super heavy option.

Hmm... WH Penitant Titan... sounds awesome to me!

As much as i want a titan for witch hunters ( yes im a fan of them, avatar / siggy :"P ) Its near impossible considering we dont even have plastic troops ><

If anything they might make a titan for marines ,
and SOBs gets the option to take them too.

Chaos are right for the moment as they use the IG superheavies, but with skulls, and spikes, and arrows painted on.

Eldar would be relatively easy, scorpion mk2 base and just change the weapon for the numerous super heavy eldar vehicles.

ugh always tank tank tank tanks for every super heavy!

I really want a revenant titan to practice on before i touch my phantom ><

I would love to see a elder revenant titan, Would buy it fairly quickly....well when I have money for it so maybe not so quickly

Tau fluff is that rather than building super-heavy vehicles or titans, they build big flying vehicles.

The problem with this is firstly scale. The Manta Ray done by Forge World is 25 inches by 34 inches! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html

That means that many weapons in the game would have a problem shooting from one side of the vehicle to the other.

Secondly the cost and difficulty of making and building such large kits.

Thirdly, 40K has no proper air combat rules, and you would be stupid to build super flying machines and make them crawl around on the ground.

Therefore I think the fluff should be relaxed to give the Tau some kind of super-battle-suit smaller than a titan and more mobile.

Kilkrazy wrote:Tau fluff is that rather than building super-heavy vehicles or titans, they build big flying vehicles.

The problem with this is firstly scale. The Manta Ray done by Forge World is 25 inches by 34 inches! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html

That means that many weapons in the game would have a problem shooting from one side of the vehicle to the other.

Secondly the cost and difficulty of making and building such large kits.

Thirdly, 40K has no proper air combat rules, and you would be stupid to build super flying machines and make them crawl around on the ground.

Therefore I think the fluff should be relaxed to give the Tau some kind of super-battle-suit smaller than a titan and more mobile.

I dunno who made the fluff but, if Tau had technology to make Crisis suits, wouldnt
it make more sense that they would be the ones most capable to make Titans ? Titan feels way more tech based then Tanks imo ,

GW is just lazy -_-

Plastic Hierodules please!!!!!

LunaHound wrote:
I dunno who made the fluff but, if Tau had technology to make Crisis suits, wouldnt
it make more sense that they would be the ones most capable to make Titans ? Titan feels way more tech based then Tanks imo ,

GW is just lazy -_-

According to fluff, the Tau are the only faction in the 40k universe who realize that giant walkers are a really stupid concept.

Chaos daemons and Marines have the Daemon Lords

Titans were invented in the late 1980s when Battletech was a very successful game. GW wanted to compete, and produced Adeptus Titanicus.

They wanted it to be very grimdark and Imperial, so they thought up the Titan, a very tall legged vehicle more like a walking tower block than a battlesuit.

There are several problems with walking vehicles.

1. They fall over.
2. The taller a vehicle is, the easier it is to hit, because it is harder to get the range to the target than the azimuth.
3. Armouring a legged vehicle is more difficult than armouring a tank shaped vehicle.
4. Ground pressure means that legged vehicles will have terrible cross-country performance.

A battlesuit might make sense if it is light enough to move like a man, but can carry heavier weapons, and has good balance (because a person is inside can controls it with their natural sense of balance.) SM armour and terminator armour is like that. A Tau battlesuit is a larger version, with anti-grav assistance.

The thing is that technology like light, advanced composite armour, and anti-grav assistance, can be used much more effectively on a vehicle than a suit. So it only really makes sense to have suits of roughly man size. Much bigger than that and you are better off with a vehicle.

But battlesuits are cool.

As far as I know, it's a pretty safe bet that we get a plastic Thunderhawk some time next year.

An Eldar titan would be pretty cool, but if Eldar get a Superheavy, it would probably be a large tank.

Tyranids have a whole bunch of possibilities, I think the Hyrodule is the most likely choice.

I don't think that Chaos will get their own superheavy, there are more than enough things you can build out of the existing Guard tanks. And there'sa good chance GW will make a plastic Warhound sooner or later.

LunaHound wrote:

Kilkrazy wrote:Tau fluff is that rather than building super-heavy vehicles or titans, they build big flying vehicles.

The problem with this is firstly scale. The Manta Ray done by Forge World is 25 inches by 34 inches! http://www.forgeworld.co.uk/acatalog/TAU_AIRCRAFT.html

That means that many weapons in the game would have a problem shooting from one side of the vehicle to the other.

Secondly the cost and difficulty of making and building such large kits.

Thirdly, 40K has no proper air combat rules, and you would be stupid to build super flying machines and make them crawl around on the ground.

Therefore I think the fluff should be relaxed to give the Tau some kind of super-battle-suit smaller than a titan and more mobile.

I dunno who made the fluff but, if Tau had technology to make Crisis suits, wouldnt
it make more sense that they would be the ones most capable to make Titans ? Titan feels way more tech based then Tanks imo ,

You can't trip a tank.

Non-Imperial Superheavies?

GW could probably do a Brass Scorpion conversion sprue without too much effort.

Orks got their Stompa, and good for them.

Eldar Scorpion / Cobra / whatever is a natural, but not until after the Eldar 5E book comes out. Revenant is a dark horse, as it's nice, but more difficult to adapt for variety (unlike Stompa).

Tau / Necrons / etc. probably don't sell well enough to get plastic superheavies at this time. When you start seeing a lot of FW stuff (pays for the designw work), then you'll start seeing plastics afterwards.

So most likely, we'll see a plastic Warhound and Thunderhawk in the next 2 to 5 years. Both have considerable interest, and the plastic Warhound has a lot of demonstrated demand with scratchbuilds all over.

lord_blackfang wrote:According to fluff, the Tau are the only faction in the 40k universe who realize that giant walkers are a really stupid concept.

Haha, QFT. Although I do love walkers! What does that say about me?

I'm going to play the fun 'super heavy matching game'

Chaos Demons - Tzeentch Major Demon

Chaos Space Marines - Brass Scorpion

Daemonhunters - Thunderhawk

Dark Eldar - What is that double fuselage raven-like bomber called?

Eldar - Scorpion/Cobra

Imperial Guard - no more for you!

Necrons - Super monolith

Orks - jobs a good'un

Space Marines - Thunderhawk

Tau Empire - Tiger Shark

Tyranids - Heirodule

Witch Hunters - Warhound Titan

As far as I know, it's a pretty safe bet that we get a plastic Thunderhawk some time next year.

Why does everyone keep saying that? I don't think it's very likely at all, it's wishful thinking.

GW have denied it, we've heard nothing about it other than a friend of a friend of a friend of a redshirt who "knows" someone in GW who said it was in the works, and a small White Dwarf picture which no one wants to believe is the FW thunderhawk for some reason. If it happens, yay, good for the Space Marines, they really ought to start paying more attention to them after all, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

As for the question, I say no, no hope at all. The only reason the Orks got one is because I hear GW is trying to push sales and make them a second army to Space Marines, what with all the attention they've been getting, their inclusion in the starter set, their powerful codex, etc. All the "least popular" races (everyone else) don't have a hope in hell of getting anything, and not within the next five years. Maybe when GW ends up with more money than they know what to do with they'll throw the rest of us a bone.

Sidstyler wrote:

As far as I know, it's a pretty safe bet that we get a plastic Thunderhawk some time next year.

Why does everyone keep saying that? I don't think it's very likely at all, it's wishful thinking.

GW have denied it, we've heard nothing about it other than a friend of a friend of a friend of a redshirt who "knows" someone in GW who said it was in the works, and a small White Dwarf picture which no one wants to believe is the FW thunderhawk for some reason. If it happens, yay, good for the Space Marines, they really ought to start paying more attention to them after all, but I wouldn't hold my breath.

As for the question, I say no, no hope at all. The only reason the Orks got one is because I hear GW is trying to push sales and make them a second army to Space Marines, what with all the attention they've been getting, their inclusion in the starter set, their powerful codex, etc. All the "least popular" races (everyone else) don't have a hope in hell of getting anything, and not within the next five years. Maybe when GW ends up with more money than they know what to do with they'll throw the rest of us a bone.

He says as Emperor Palpatine cackles in the shadows behind him.

I'm impressed. I haven't seen negativity like that since Bush's re-election.

Truth is, the big kits sell well, a poll on BoLS shows that thunderhawk is far and away the most popular kit that people would like to see in plastic. It'd be a great tie in for a planned planet strike release, or as just a splash.

It is coming soon, I don't even play SM, I don't care. It isn't a 'wish'. Its just the writing on the wall.

Just because everyone wants one doesn't mean it WILL happen. There has to be something a little more concrete than "If I want it hard enough they'll give me one!"

Which is all I've really seen so far, the "rumors" haven't been all to convincing. And speaking of Planetstrike, I still haven't heard a damn thing about it other than the name, so...

JohnHwangDD wrote:Non-Imperial Superheavies?

GW could probably do a Brass Scorpion conversion sprue without too much effort.

Orks got their Stompa, and good for them.

Eldar Scorpion / Cobra / whatever is a natural, but not until after the Eldar 5E book comes out. Revenant is a dark horse, as it's nice, but more difficult to adapt for variety (unlike Stompa).

Tau / Necrons / etc. probably don't sell well enough to get plastic superheavies at this time. When you start seeing a lot of FW stuff (pays for the designw work), then you'll start seeing plastics afterwards.

So most likely, we'll see a plastic Warhound and Thunderhawk in the next 2 to 5 years. Both have considerable interest, and the plastic Warhound has a lot of demonstrated demand with scratchbuilds all over.

It should be awfully easy swapping the weapons for variety since they are located as their arms .

@ sidstyler : GW will always produce products that they known will sell like cake . i mean what does TH come with:
Marines , SOB, Daemon Hunter , thats 3 mass of players able to use it . Easy weapon change options . The only problem that might be
stopping them is the size. If im not mistaken its quite abit larger then stompa / bane blade. And the shape of it might make it more fragile
( landing gears would easily snap , wings might too from the sheer weight )

Shep wrote:Truth is, the big kits sell well, a poll on BoLS shows that thunderhawk is far and away the most popular kit that people would like to see in plastic. It'd be a great tie in for a planned planet strike release, or as just a splash.

It is coming soon, I don't even play SM, I don't care. It isn't a 'wish'. Its just the writing on the wall.

To be fair, the BoLS had the Thunderhawk and Warhound running neck-and-neck.

I'd personally rather see the Warhound come out first, as it has much more playability potential, vs Marines-only Thawk.

I'd definitely much rather see a plastic Warhound than a Thunderhawk, but I don't personally care much for Thunderhawks as it is.

Plus with the lack of good air rules, I'm not really sure how well a Thunderhawk would fit into 40k games, unless the table was straight up huge, or you were playing in a gym floor. Titans and superheavy tanks push the envelope enough as it is.

Don't Orks already have a super-heavy? Looted Baneblade. Heh

Hopefully the Tyranids get both Hierodules AND Hierophants. I wouldn't mind seeing Exocrines making a return, either.

I think a Dominatrix is asking a bit too much...

give tau cool upgrades like the imperial guard get with special tanks and unit upgrades. like special crisis suits.

as far as super heavy's belloflostsouls.blogspot.com look for lords of battle.

please no massive crisis suites their great the way they are.

but a massive c'tan like the void dragon and a mechanicum army. that would be awsome.

You know, I've never really understood why super heavies need to be so big that they barely fit on a table.
Wouldn't it be better if they were just a little bigger than regular heavies, but big enough to be imposing and prohibitivly large for a city fight?
Then on top of that, have Titans as a sort of class of their own so that they don't have to compete with a supertank (which is really unfair, big tank < ubermecha).

In my opinion superheavy tanks aren't really all THAT big, anyway. I've seen the plastic baneblade and, while it is huge, I kinda expected more.

I usually think about things too practically. Tanks bigger than their own good have never sat well with me.
I'd enjoy a Sherman lookalike based on the Centaur armed with a conquerer cannon. I've been thinking about designing and converting it myself, I was going to call it the "Satyr", I'd even retire a russ for a couple of those!
But FW is too expensive to cut one up in that fashion.

Guys... Eldar have two Revenants already. Did you mean Phantoms?

Witch Hunters would just use the Titan Legions like the Guard do. Marines don't have any Titans.



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