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Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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Im not familiar with the term Wealth redistribution, but isnt that similar to communism?

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Yes, VERY. It's also a longstanding platform for Democratic campaigning.

Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.


 
   
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Lordhat wrote:Yes, VERY. It's also a longstanding platform for Democratic campaigning.


does that mean choosing policies favoring a certain mass majority in order to get their vote / support?

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By 'Democratic' I meant Democrats as opposed to Republicans. In both cases what you said is truth, however. American politicians HAVE to choose policies that favor majorities in their voter base. Doing otherwise presumably means you'll lose the support of your party; no more endorsements, capaign contributions, etc. This is why abortion, for instance, is a hot topic to campaign on, as the lines are pretty clearly drawn. After the polls have 'confirmed' that the politician in question has the approval of the target voter base, THEN they might start campaigning of the 'fringe' issues in order to get the 'swing' votes.

Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
insaniak wrote: Every time someone threatens violence over the internet as a result of someone's hypothetical actions at the gaming table, the earth shakes infinitisemally in its orbit as millions of eyeballs behind millions of monitors all roll simultaneously.


 
   
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Just scroll down the comments on the videos to see what baiting like this can do. One is a jewish person and the other is a black person. The whole "no white construction workers" tag implies they are pitted aginst each other. Getting unskilled and miroties off the streets and into work is a good thing, He was stating that they simply can't be over looked. He said Not to High skilled professionals or to white male constrution workers. In effect take the people without skills and give them some. Professionals aready have skills, as do white male constrution workers. I don't mind if you beat Obama up on the job he's doing, I don't mind if you dislike congress. But This whole Jews and blacks aginst whites vibe isn't cool. We need a lot of things To get out of this resession, but race baiting isn't one of them.

Oh and Mrs. Malken has stated that the US was right to Intern Japanese Americans in WWII. So I can't listen to her for verylong without being sick.

And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.

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LunaHound wrote:


Im not familiar with the term Wealth redistribution, but isnt that similar to communism?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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sebster wrote:
LunaHound wrote:


Im not familiar with the term Wealth redistribution, but isnt that similar to communism?



HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!

No.


Oh yeah, I forgot. It's closer to stealing than communism.

Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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LOL

Mannahnin wrote:A lot of folks online (and in emails in other parts of life) use pretty mangled English. The idea is that it takes extra effort and time to write properly, and they’d rather save the time. If you can still be understood, what’s the harm? While most of the time a sloppy post CAN be understood, the use of proper grammar, punctuation, and spelling is generally seen as respectable and desirable on most forums. It demonstrates an effort made to be understood, and to make your post an easy and pleasant read. By making this effort, you can often elicit more positive responses from the community, and instantly mark yourself as someone worth talking to.
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Lordhat wrote:Oh yeah, I forgot. It's closer to stealing than communism.


I think there is a basic obligation when talking to other people than you base your ideas and arguments in reality, and that means you don’t get to just make up economics as you go along. Name a developed nation without progressive income tax and we can start having a conversation on tax as theft. In the mean time stop being so silly.

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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sebster wrote: Name a developed nation without progressive income tax and we can start having a conversation on tax as theft.


Monaco

 
   
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chaplaingrabthar wrote:
sebster wrote: Name a developed nation without progressive income tax and we can start having a conversation on tax as theft.


Monaco


Good one. It's only on a technicality that it can be called a flat tax, in that the rate of income tax is zero... which is flat, but isn't really actually a tax. Better answers would have been the Czech Republic, Russia or the Ukraine.

Anyhow, now that there's actually been some reference made to real world, there might be some hope for the conversation. So then, what definition of communism are we using?

“We may observe that the government in a civilized country is much more expensive than in a barbarous one; and when we say that one government is more expensive than another, it is the same as if we said that that one country is farther advanced in improvement than another. To say that the government is expensive and the people not oppressed is to say that the people are rich.”

Adam Smith, who must have been some kind of leftie or something. 
   
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I have a pretty serious question for apologists and supporters of the last administration: did you feel, when W was being grilled, that you understood what he did and why he did it, and frankly saw those that disagreed as simply being sore losers who couldn't get over losing an election and now seek every opportunity to try to villify the president? Because that's how I feel now, and I gotta tell you, it feels great!

I agree with Reich and the Congressman: stimulus money should not go to those that are already highly skilled and working, but to those that need a freaking job. And yes, a lot of construction workers on DOT crews are white, and it's not entirely a coincidence. Knowing, as we do, the income gap between whites and minorities (except Asians, I believe), then a policy that seeks to reverse that is something I can support. Given the long term racism in the doling out of those contracts and the jobs they bring, I guess I don't get steamed about making sure that stimulus money doesn't simply add overtime pay to a guy that already has a steady job.

Certainly It's more fun to spin it as reverse racism, but even if it were I'm not exactly sweating bullets at a single program that disproportionately helps minorities.
   
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Its cute how they listen to a five second designed sound clip highlighting ten words then jump into ten minutes of slowed commentary that in effect has very little to what was said or the man in question. Does fox do anything that isn't obvious yellow journalism? They aren't even hiding it any more, this is laughable.

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@ Bloodoforks...

You forget who moderates this section... this is right up his alley, and Im suprised HE wasnt the one who posted it in the beginning.

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Do they bother figuring out why the ones needing money are poor to start with?

Many of them are too lazy to work and rather spend their time doing drugs, and leeching off the government.

I feel sorry for the actual workers that have a job, but is still poor.

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LunaHound wrote:Do they bother figuring out why the ones needing money are poor to start with?

Many of them are too lazy to work and rather spend their time doing drugs, and leeching off the government.

I feel sorry for the actual workers that have a job, but is still poor.


That's a really shallow way to look at things.

Obviously you've never come close to homelessness, or even bothered spending time with anyone that actually is homeless. Though there are a fair share of people that are homeless because of a drug addiction, generally it works the other way around. As in, someone loses their job, cannot afford basic needs, loses their house/lease because they cannot pay it on time, and then degenerates into alcohol or drug abuse, if only to keep them from killing themselves because they live on the street, can't find a job, and have to beg for help.

Being poor really doesn't necessarily have anything to do with being lazy. There are a million different things that can keep you from getting a job, and refusing to get up off your ass and get a job is only one of them. Considering the state of government handouts as they are now, you can hardly afford to live in Section 8 housing, let alone support a drug habit. And since you can only apply for food stamps if you're over the age of 18, imagine supporting a family with a little over 100 dollars worth of food every month. I seriously doubt that anyone in this condition would be 'too lazy' to go out and look for work. If they are, they must practically be vegetative.

Anyway, if you seriously consider this to be 'racism', then you must be pretty ignorant of honest racism. If you're actually offended for a government official looking past the most-employed demographic for a potential hiring, then I honestly don't know what to tell you.

And calling this 'reverse' racism...I just thought that was precious.

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If you ever get the time talk to some people at a homeless shelter. Bad things happen to good people, and not that they are just lazy scum. Go and tell a single parent with kids theyare lazy because they are poor. Anybody can fall on hard times. The death of a spouse, major Illness, Closing of the town factory, Or in the case ofinner cities. way more people than jobs. And the poor people you are raging on don't use the drugs they sell them, to the same people that won't hire them. I always find it ironic that the same Big Shots who rag the poor area usually get caught there with a prostitute or a line of powder.

And whilst you're pointing and shouting at the boogeyman in the corner, you're missing the burglar coming in through the window.

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The aim of wealth redistribution is not in fact, to make the poor better off as some sort of succour, but to provide the help they need to get jobs, be that rehabilitation for addictions, or education (very popular in Britain, thanks to the Open University) or what have you.

It's not communism in the least. It's about helping the less fortunate in soceity contribute more in the future.

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Not trying to be mean, but unless someone forced you to take drugs and you end up been heavily addicted... thats sort of the responsibility you should have taken.

Remember? say no to drugs!

ya... they feed you that everyday for reasons.

Peer pressure to be cool and end up addicted is no excuse.

And yes i know there are differnt reasons to be poor / without job, im just talking about the more obviouse ones, so dont jump on me lol.

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Trying to cope with bad times or depression can turn what began as a habit into a nasty addiction.

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LunaHound wrote:
Do they bother figuring out why the ones needing money are poor to start with?

Many of them are too lazy to work and rather spend their time doing drugs, and leeching off the government.



Only poor people do drugs ?

And who wouldn't rather spend their time doing drugs, it's much more fun than working.

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Thank goodness this is in Off Topic because reading (some) of these posts I get the feeling that....



I'm going to /b/ for some serious discussions.

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Redistribution of Wealth is applied by any nation that taxes it's citizens. What is being suggested by the speaker in the link and not the appallingly biased and partisan news commentary that follows it, is a way of channelling funds to break the hotbeds of concentrated underclass, those who will be shunted yet further down the social ladder as the economy is suffering. What is required is a more severe taxation of the super rich. As to empowering the poor to become gainfully employed and break the cycle of debt they find themselves trapped in, frankly the banks and finance companies who construct these loans need a severe dressing down, the economic crisis we face has been generated not by the poor, not even by that lunatic GWB and his multiple war fetish, it has been generated by the money men (and women) who have used their corporations like casinos.

To those on this thread that suggest drug addiction is purely a selfish road, I worked with a methadone clinic for 2 years, so I will state this politely for you, the rate of addicts who have been subjected to abuses during their childhoods of one form or another, the rate of addicts who suffer from either a mental illness or mental disability, the rate of addicts who have had truly unpleasant existences thrust upon them, is very high. Further, I have worked for Social Services in the UK for 4 years, it is all too easy to speak out about those who are 'thriving' on benefits and don't seek to get into gainful employment and empower themselves, whilst those 'spongers' do exist, they are a minority, the majority of people I encountered at the end of the poverty line were all too aware of how society viewed them and all too willing to do what it took to get a better life.
Drug taking, like getting drunk is about escape, many then finding themselves getting trapped on that road just try to escape all the more and the support mechanisms to get those people back from that cycle of self abuse is sadly lacking due to the perception that 'they could just say no'. The just say no campaign was a glib, ignorant and trite little bit of PR for the Regan administration and the Thatcher reign of terror in the UK, it is perhaps all the more appalling since those same administrations were creating the underclass that were falling prey to the drugs.

Aiding the underclass of your nation to escape the cycle of poverty isn't communist.



 
   
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Fallen668 wrote:@ Bloodoforks...

You forget who moderates this section... this is right up his alley, and Im suprised HE wasnt the one who posted it in the beginning.


Are you referring to me?

I'm just a lovable bug Fallen666

At point of reading (halfway through) looks like both sides are debating with merit and not degerating into personal attack. Whats the problem?

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Mad Doc Grotsnik wrote:The aim of wealth redistribution is not in fact, to make the poor better off as some sort of succour, but to provide the help they need to get jobs, be that rehabilitation for addictions, or education (very popular in Britain, thanks to the Open University) or what have you.

It's not communism in the least. It's about helping the less fortunate in society contribute more in the future.


Respectfully, I'd say thats one reason. I'd proffer reasons for wealth redistribution can vary depending on who's proposing it.

Just some:
*stimulate the economy
*help get jobs, provide needed services to the general populace
*distribute wealth from one group to another.

I'd proffer there's a big difference between a Democrat wanted to raise the marginal tax rate to support unemployment benefits, vs. a New Black Panther party member who wants reparations for slavery.

At the same time we have to watch the other side. Flat taxes/fees have a similar effect in the opposite method. Taxes on energy disproportionately impact the poor or those on a fixed income for example. I can afford a tax on gasoline with its inflationary effect on food, transportation, and heating/air vs. my mom who is on a fixed income, and can't.

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