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SU-152 wrote:

JWh85 wrote:

Vorian wrote:
I was thinking of getting a couple of normal chariots and maybe a couple of the character chariots for old world use and the insane price stopped me too. Absolutely crazy stuff.

I had the exact same idea; a unit of 3 chariots, one with a character. The price for the chariots from smaller retailers aren't that bad; i might buy those eventually. The boss chariots is, even with a discount, still so insanely priced that i won't buy it for the forseeable future.

How much are they? I am thinking about scracht-building the chariots.

The GW prices for the kits are a bit up on this page, from independent retailers i've seen discounts between €10 and €20....but for the boss on chariot that still makes it quite expensive.

So this has suddenly appeared in the wild. Personally i'm calling fake, as the amount of new kits involved is kind of staggering. Also no sign of the pirates, but there are dispossessed which would be very odd.

Honestly I'd find it strange if GW decided to just pull all the Dark Elf stuff and replace it with brand new Dispossessed kits. If anything I'd have expected Dwarves to just be their own thing and let Cities be their own thing.

That said I've long suspected GW would just pull the whole Dark Elf line - they just don't seem to really have a place/plan for them .

It would, but it hasn't stopped them before. And by my count, there's 18 new unit entries there. There's no way that could all come as a second wave.

I think it is not fake and they just do 9 dual kits.

I mean, there are new hero's in there, so it can't all be dual kits. And if reading it right, there's at least one new cavalry and a few infantry kits. It still seems like an absurd amount, especially with the cog fort if it that's meant to be a centerpiece kit.

When would this potentially be out, anyway? There's lots of other stuff on the roadmap first and that's really just guesswork looking at the potato cam pic, but the date after the copyright could just as well be 2026 as 2025 - but would they have a printed version that early on?

Probably not until next year at the earliest i'd imagine. Who knows, could be a test print copy or just a fake.

Calling fake, all current battletomes say "Warhammer Design Studio", this one omits the word "Design". The weird chicken dragon thing above the warhammer.com tag is also not present in any other battletome

For what it's worth after that pathetic preview

Let's add the latest roadmap:



https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/hpue5ec7/spearhead-is-resurrected-in-shyish-while-matched-play-uproots-to-ghyran/

One interesting point from the roadmap is that we don't seem to be getting the combined Dwarf book that was talked about as a possibility.

Didn't we also have a rumor that Fyrslyrs are going to get squatted?

There was, and then the plushie preview showed up.

The only rumour we have is that Fyreslayers won't get a Battletome for the current edition - which is supported by a reliable rumour hinter on the AoS forums. That doesn't necessarily mean "Squatted" it could mean a name change; being rolled into another army; GW hitting a limit on how many books they can do in 1 3 year edition cycle and starting to slip back into the old-ways.

The plushie I don't take as any evidence. It's a side product that could have had its beginnings utterly ages ago and simply doesn't reflect GW's current market direction. Just like Total War Old World didn't mean GW was bringing back Old World*

The only thing I'm a tiny bit worried about were some hints that the demon codex for 40K were "Oh so close" to release from one of the comments in the preview. Because darn it I want the Soulblight stuff!!



*because it 100% didn't at the time. It was a total plan change to bring Old World back

The article on warcom was explicit that daemons arent getting a book

Spearhead is all recycled sculpts? Meh. At least it' a few new discount boxes?

Apparently pallets of Skaventide were being given out to Adepticon attendees. Disregard the clickbaity title, these guys are, in my experience, pretty evenhanded and make succinct points. I usually like their videos when its on a topic I’m interested in. YMMV :




Couple of my thoughts:
1. They made too many(clearly)
2. 3 year edition cycle isn’t sustainable for AoS
3. Stormcast aren’t Space Marines
4. Launch retail price is probably too steep
5. Folks learned from Dominion to wait for a sale.
6. AoS has more competition in 4.0

Even myself, an AoS stan, I just bought it for the rules mainly and even then it was with misgivings. Though I really liked the mini’s, I haven’t even touched them. I promised myself I’d attempt painting and playing Skaven/SCE, but in the end, I have no interest in the factions at present. Maybe for Spearhead, but definitely not for AoS main.

The thing is 3 year cycle is brutal on everyone and yeah Stormcast aren't marines and as well as AoS is doing its not 40K. In many ways stormcast not being marines is a net good thing - the main issue is likely that mangement has put down the hammer that stormcast MUST be in the starter set and thus they go into the starter box.

Heck this only works for Marines because they can put different marine subfactions into the box - you can bet if it were ultramarines every single year it would hurt.


Honestly I kind of want GW to feel some pain on the 3 year edition - I'd like them to perhaps realise that its not hte new rules everyone is fired up about but the new models and that perhaps editions should be a lot LONGER

On Fyreslayers, I love elemental Dwarves, the 3e art for Azers really appealed to me when I first saw it.

But Fyreslayers are a terrible execution of that concept in my view, with very bad design and poor poses on the models. The stumpy little bodies with the massive helmet crests really just do not work, and the way they're often springing up makes them look like they're standing on tippy toe. They also just look like slayers with fire theming and I would have really liked to see them actually go for fully elemental dwarves made of molten iron with flame for beards. They half assed the high fantasy stuff, which is one of my issues with AoS generally. The dragons they have are cool though.

Also replacing the i with a y makes me roll my eyes.

A shame! Greedy elemental Dwarves from the Realm of Fire could have been a brilliant faction and given something really interesting to fight against the chaos barbarians and stormcast that were the main other AoS factions at the time.

Fyreslayers feel like a good few "launch" armies for AoS in that they had one theme that they did really well but only one theme. That's totally fine if the designers can expand beyond that both in budget and creativity.

Fyreslayers have hope in that Dwarves as a concept in AoS are really under-developed. GW has also kept them supported with new leaders fairly often honestly - however for some reason the energy/money/drive to really address them has been missing. Same as the Dispossessed.

I was assured that Skaventide would sell out because of an invisible horde of WHFB/TOW players would snatch tjem all up for use in the square based games.

 Overread wrote:
...you can bet if it were ultramarines every single year it would hurt...

When is the last time they weren't? Of the eight starter sets I can find, FIVE of them were Ultramarines, including the last three in a row - and only ONE had legit divergent Chapter models.

Forget all that junk. The Skeletons are finally here. Including a rather fine novel for Ushoran that i didn't know existed until today:

https://www.warhammer-community.com/en-gb/articles/qaqujhnh/sunday-preview-ancient-kingdoms-rise/

YESYESYES!

chaos0xomega wrote:
I was assured that Skaventide would sell out because of an invisible horde of WHFB/TOW players would snatch tjem all up for use in the square based games.

That’s the only reason I went in for a half of one…

Valete,

JohnS

chaos0xomega wrote:
I was assured that Skaventide would sell out because of an invisible horde of WHFB/TOW players would snatch tjem all up for use in the square based games.

Yes, yes we were.

I'll pick it up when it's around $110 like I did with Dominion.

Skaven were never popular in old fantasy from what numerous staffers have told me over the years. Just a very loud minority.

See that seems odd because there has always been a massive amount of Skaven stuff on ebay - someone has to be buying it to put up for sale.

I do know that fantasy did have the slave-rat problem with Old World in that the ideal army was basically LOTS of clanrats and you could easily burn out building them



Technically it was slave rats but everyone used clan rats cause they were cheap in plastic and the slaves were metal/only sold as a metal slinger upgrade arm at one stage

chaos0xomega wrote:
I was assured that Skaventide would sell out because of an invisible horde of WHFB/TOW players would snatch tjem all up for use in the square based games.

easier to pick up the models you want on ebay over buying the box and try to sell the Stormcast half

Also that being a Legacy army, most people who care already have enough Clan Rats for not buying another 80 just to get a unit of plastic Jezzails