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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 03:14:38
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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I'm considering taking a revenant titan to the adepticon gladiator but I'm not sure how it works.
Eldar holofields:
Titans that move get to discard hits on a 4+. The last sentence says it doesn't get this holo-field save if it didn't move the previous turn.
BBB:
Models with more than one save. pp 24 speaks of models with armor saves, invulnerable and cover saves, and that models only get one of these saves, but's particular about these types of saves.
Adepticon FAQ
APOC.96K.01 – Q: Is an Eldar Titan Holo-field a cover
save and can it be used against close combat attacks?
A: An Eldar Titan Holo-field is not a cover save (it is actually
taken right after a ‘hit’ is scored) and is indeed used against
any type of hit [RAW].
So is it safe to say that an eldar titan that moved into a position where it would get cover would get a 4+ holo field save against the hit and then I would then get a 4+ if it pen/glanced.
So it would work like armored plates and customer force field or an armor save and bionics?
Part 2.
If cast fortune do I get to re roll both of these?
As fortune reads, "The unit re rolls any failed saves?"
Pete
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 06:46:50
Subject: Re:Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Hunter with Harpoon Laucher
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I don't think psychics, friendly or unfriendly, will work on a superheavy. Check the apoc rulebook. If you were behind cover, you would get the 4+ for cover, and if you missed it, the 4+ for the holo field.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 07:06:06
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Getting a cover save for a titan would be...difficult, considering that you have to actually block 50% of the model from the shooter's LOS.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 07:18:44
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Stealthy Space Wolves Scout
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Centurian99 wrote:Getting a cover save for a titan would be...difficult, considering that you have to actually block 50% of the model from the shooter's LOS.
I'm not so much into the apocalypse rules but I think KFFs works. Revenants are 800 points, having a KFF in a Falcon, Truck or whatever near don't seem like a bad choice. I'm sure there are freebooter meks so fluffwise it's no prob.
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In one game turn an Imperial guardsman can move 6", kill a few guys with his flamer, assault 6", kill two more guys with his bayonet, flee 12", regroup when assaulted, react 6", kill one more guy with his bayonet and then flee another 12".
So in one game turn an Imperial guardsman can move 42" and kill more than 5 people. At the same time a Chimera at top speed on a road can move 18"... |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 12:56:14
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Swift Swooping Hawk
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In response to question 2 - You do not get to cast fortune on a titan (shame really I'd have loved to on more than one occasion).
In the Apoc rulebook it states that Psychic powers have no effect on Superheavy vehicles.
As for question one, wouldn't you need to cover 50% of the torso as you do with other walkers to get cover?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 16:37:44
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Brother Bartius wrote:In response to question 2 - You do not get to cast fortune on a titan (shame really I'd have loved to on more than one occasion).
In the Apoc rulebook it states that Psychic powers have no effect on Superheavy vehicles.
Close. It states that Psychic Powers that do not have a Strength have no affect on Superheavy vehicles.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 23:12:46
Subject: Re:Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Regular Dakkanaut
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So it sounds like I am right that a titan in cover with fortune gets a 4+ re rollable agaisnt hits then a 4+ re rollable against glances and pens.
Granted making a revenant obscured is hard but a cobra behind some grav tanks sounds very feasible.
Pete
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/03 23:15:41
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Fortune's a psychic power without strength, so it won't affect Titans or superheavies.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/04 03:36:25
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Painlord Titan Princeps of Slaanesh
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Wow, way to IGNORE everyone's ruling that fortune doesn't work. You can get cover, but you can't reroll them.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/04 06:45:26
Subject: Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Regular Dakkanaut
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Lol. whoops. read it backwards.
So I there are 2 4+ saves without re rolls.
Got it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/04 21:19:26
Subject: Re:Titan Holo fields and cover saves???
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Hunter with Harpoon Laucher
Castle Clarkenstein
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I would also check with your group, or the person organizing the apocalypse game, about how they play the ork KFF with superheavies.
Letting the KFF affect superheavies is very unbalancing. We've ruled it doesn't affect them. The ork players were the main ones pushing for it. They want to use stompers, and suspect that if they popped a Mekboy with a KFF in each stomper, no one would show up to play against them. Just because you can be cheesey as hell in Apoc doesn't mean you have to, and a lot more people want to play in the games when you don't.
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