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GW have already made a huge leap of faith in their major investments in large scale plastic moulding, I'd expect to see many more of the same coming out.

Personnally I think we are more likely to get more of the same, ie Plastic versions of stuff which there have never been versions of or replacement FW stuff usable by multiple armies in Apoc.

Baneblade and similar variants an example, Drop pod another example... Valk a suprise, but not when you take planet strike into account

New Dread? Possible, but unlikely.

Marine Thunderhawk... 3 months ago I'd have said no, now.... maybe!

Plastic Orca? Unlikely but slim chance...

As for a Warhound, thing is they already do a FW Warhound which sells, but probably not enough to warrent additional investment just yet....

Knights? (are they even in fluff anymore? Ok, so they were in Mechanicum, but so what!)

So what do you think will be the next "Big" thing?

Warhound seems semi-logical.

Thunderhawk not so much.

So, yeah, I reckon Warhound.

Plastic Trygon.

Uh oh!

Too bad, as I really was hoping for Mars Pattern Warhound in plastic... :(

I'd have to bet on the warhound. It's useful for the IG, Inquisition and of course THE SPACE MARINES (and to a lesser extent the Bad Space Marines and the Space Demons).

It's an established iconic vehicle.

It's the clear counterpart to the stomper (which I would never have figured we'd see).

It's a magnet for kids and teens looking in shop windows.

Warhound.

1Q 2010.

I'd bet money.

PS...

Druidic
Location: Nottingham

Can't you just go down the street and ask?

Kid_Kyoto wrote:PS...

Druidic
Location: Nottingham

Can't you just go down the street and ask?

HE'SE A SPY!

AAAHHHHHH



But no, seriously, I expect a plastic Tyranid creature eventually... either with the next major apoc release or a codex-redo.

As for the War Hound... 100% possible. Ever see those 1/10 (even saw a 1/5 once) tank kits for WW2? They are the size of bloody luggage! Huge boxes! At a local store there is a 1/35 scale DORA... the box is big enough that I can fit into it.

If GW can find a way to mass-produce larger kits, the Warhound is NOT hard, its box would easily be around maybe 50% more than the baneblade though

Hives of Death- Apocalypse goes cityfight. New colossal terrain and ruins. Throw in some new rules to allow walkers extra movement and freedom in urban environments and you've got a tremendous seller. Even better, it will already be usable for 40k and apocalypse.

I think a warhound would be the next logical step as it is usable in alot more armies than say a revenant but I sure will will get super heavies for all the races at some point
also I have heard some rumors of platic defence lines not sure how reliable this is...

Peace out

I expect them to ride the coaattails of the baneblade frame for as long as they can. They do that with every other vehicle chassis already so this will be nothing new.

Cities of death is in need of a new kit. I am sure by the time they get to redoing it for 5th ed there will be an additional sprue or two.

A thunderhawk, while kinda cool, is a waste of resources. Seriously, give some love to some armies that need plastic updates or any plastic at all before making a fairly pointless (but sadly, quite salable) kit to the SM masses. I play space marines a lot nowadays, but I feel this is somehow very wrong to make that kit before armies like the dark eldar are updated.

Seriously, we need more terrain options before a plastic thunderhawk is made. I love cities of death terrain, but it get kinda old trying to make something new out of the same three kits....

Man, if Apocalypse and City Fight had a secret love child in the form of giant city terrain kits, it would make my fiscal quarter. It would make it poorer, mostly, but also terribly exciting!
I know I can make my own terrain, but I am not good at it, and find it rather frustrating.

Plastic Eldar superheavies would be cool. Or a MASSIVE Avatar.

I don't tend to play Apoc so am not on the look out for big plastics; I'm more in the market for plastic infantry, and vehicles.

Well guess what, I do go and ask, was in Warhammer World only yesterday chatting with the manager, but they are reasonably tight lipped.

Hells teeth our Procurement Manager used to be their Procurement Manager and I STILL can't get anything out of him! :-)

Really must look up Warwick and Nuala (even if only on the pretence of find out about Arthur) and pick their brains!

But I'm actually interested in the public (geek) opinion.

Large plastic kits are extremely commercially viable for GW, afterall similar mould dev costs for, for example, a DE Warriors re-vamp, slightly higher material costs, greartly inflated single sale value.

Only problem they will suffer from is your likely to buy 5-6 boxes of warriors, but maybe 2-3 heavies.... reasonable trade off however for the high price if enough people buy 1 Super Heavy rather then starting a new army.... and very low "book" development and "Games" development.... who cares if a super heavy is broken rules wise in comparison with other armies, just increases it saleability while not effecting tournaments and competative play!

I could ALMOST see them doing something for the xenos when the next xenos book comes out.

The superheavy would be an anchor for the new product line.

Necrons maybe?

@Hellfury, the Dark Elfs in Space don't need an update, they have a perfectly fine codex and model line as is. The Squats however, they really need a facelift.

Actually thats the big genious of Apoc, new game, few issues with old, nominal relearning, massive potential, and minimal outlay... fecking genious!

A Warhound would make sense, as it applies to a broad spectrum of armies. Expect whatever does occur to generally be designed to cover as many bases as possible, like the Baneblade could. The only reason we have a Stompa in plastic is due to the huge interest the Orks got recently. I would expect Xenos stuff to come with the release of new codicies generally, when there's a pick up in interest to ride on. Some generic Eldar vehicle that can work both for Dark and Light Eldar might make sense. Demon Engines are less likely as Chaos can be served via the Imperial line. Tyranids and Necrons are almost certainly out of luck unless a new Necron codex makes Necrons the new hotness.

As an aside, I also live in Nottingham, so yes, I could just go down the road and ask. But every time I bump into someone (and you do a surprisingly high number of times) they've remained resolutely tight lipped. They also smartly put the design studios on the upper floors with tinted windows so you can't peer in. That said, I did manage to grab a glance at a case full of Plastic Baneblades back when those were just a rumour when I got shown around The Moot once, so their security isn't water tight.

GC Mandrake.... tell me you've tried the Cheese Cake!

I'm more a fan of the Scones. Cheaper too.

That said, my favourite thing in Bugmans is the Monstrosity. Double Vodka, Red Bull + Topped with Slush Puppy. Everything you need, Sugar, Alcohol, Caffeine and E-Numbers. Not all the staff know how to make it mind.

Anyway, shall we keep on topic

I'd like to see plastic Thunderbolts. I'd buy a squadron.

Hmmm.... Actually, thats not a bad idea... more heavy fliers? Thunder Bolts, Bombers, Orcy Conversions? Covers guard, SM, Navy, Planer Strike... possible?

Also loved the Eclairs, but almost too big :-)

GCMandrake wrote:

As an aside, I also live in Nottingham, so yes, I could just go down the road and ask. But every time I bump into someone (and you do a surprisingly high number of times) they've remained resolutely tight lipped.

But how do they hold up under torture?

Have you seen Warwick? Nice guy... shy of 7ft and fights with a sword for a hobby.... Ok, so do I but even so! I'd not risk trying to torture him! Besides Nuala invited us to there wedding a few years back, would just be impolite! :-)

I'm sure if they ever get to it, Sisters and all their goodies, especially the Exorcist.

I wish GW would make plastic Killa Kans or Deff Dreads.

But making a largish kit that can serve multiple armies makes complete sense.

A warhound would be great because the Orks could loot it and i'm sure GW would make a converison and datasheet for it.

Looks like Daemons need more plastic - though i'm not sure on their popularity.

I'd buy a Warhound if it was priced comparably to the Baneblade and Stompa. Probably pay more depending on how good the actual kit was though.

I think they will do a thunderhawk but the next thing that everyone will have to have is a warhound.

I also think around the next time they do a redo for the tyranids we'll get a trygon and maybe some new never-appeared-in-the-fluff-before bug that you can also make in the same box. Same goes for Eldar redo, I think they will prolly do a scorpion tank with other variants.

A knight makes a lot of sense as it's almost the same size as a Stompa and could be used by all Imperial forces and Chaos.

Scottywan82 wrote:I'd like to see plastic Thunderbolts. I'd buy a squadron.

I'll second that. Sure I can scratchbuild 'em, but they don't look nearly as good as GW's. I'd pay $60 a pop for Thunderbolt models.

i'd say valk/baneblade/stompa size and $100 is the upper limit of what they would offer for the tabletop in plastic. we'll hopefully see a "big" (size-wise) release for each major racial codex that comes out.

orks have one and the imperials have two. since the LR is supposed to be the ultimate SM vehicle (since they're a mobile scalpel and not a sledge like IG), i doubt they'll get anything. most of the "new" stuff comes from either epic or foreworld and they're both empty on completely new marine vehicles. the thunderhawk is just too big, pricey, and unwieldy to use in normal or even medium sized apoc games and should remain a limited release IMO.

the nid's definitely should get some sort of modular huge monstrous creature. Chaos: they can always convert imperial stuff with spikey bits either officially or players can do it themselves so they're covered. dark eldar: they need a general reboot before we start talking about adding superheavies but a super-raider ala jabba's barge would be cool. eldar: their titans would definitely work.

necrons: don't know since their fluff hasn't been fleshed out as much as other races. Tau: same as necrons but they could easily make some sort of gundam sized/looking robot to go with the crisis suits. as for their existing stuff, their similar scale transport (forgot the name but it's from the talos book) to the valk is specifically described as a non-frontline vehicle while the next size up is TOO big.

Isn't "Nuala" the princess in Hellboy 2? If so, wow, they have some impressive hotness working for them, if not talent It would make sense, as apparently they can only sculpt female elves that don't look like trannies... interesting...

realistically warhound, then thunderhawk. Dark Eldar may finally be out by then so maybe an eldar revenant that the dark eldar could use too ( I know it doesn't make any sense for them to have it but neither does it for space marines to have baneblades)