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Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

This, in my humble opinion, represents the "correct" size for 40k-scale titans.

Images were taken from the Apocalypse rulebook, the Emperor datasheet, Forge World, and my living room.
For titans without a known height (ie those that do not yet exist at this scale) height was determined by overlaying the warhounds provided in each image for comparison and adjusting the size until they matched up -
so in theory the warhound, warlord and emperor titans should be scaled properly to each other.
Taking the height of the warhound as about 10", or about 140 pixels, heights for the other two could be determined. Heights for the others were taken from the Forge World website.


This is, of course, only a rough guide, but I hope it might prove useful, or at least interesting.

For titans compared to real-life buildings, see this post.
For a comparison with Metal Gear, see this post.

This message was edited 12 times. Last update was at 2010/08/21 16:32:34


 
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

The reaver is about 16" tall, according to Forgeworld. I'll add it to the next version!
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

Wrong. Assuming the scale comparison in the recent datasheet is correct (and since GW made it, it is) the imperator titan is sized correctly, relative to the warhound. And the size of the warhound is about 10".
Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Image updated.
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

I'm sure all of what you said has merit, Foda, but I don't think it applies.

These are models that GW is never going to produce at this scale. There has only ever been one version of their size at this scale. There is no inconsistancy here.

Though that doesn't bother me as much as your implication that even to think about working out the size of a model based on scale marks me out as mentally handicapped. I don't agree with your insistance that there is no scale here.
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

If the epic models match up to this, it's either down to coincidence or consistant scaling - to be clear, nothing to do with epic was used in making it.

Thank you all for your kind words though!
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

SonsOfLoki wrote:I Seriously don't think the warlord is that small, in the artwork its at least 40" when scaled
40k artwork does not have a great track record of being scaled properly. I wouldn't rely on it for any kind of measurement.

And seriously, the FW reaver is 18". Why would a warlord be 40" all of a sudden?
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Sheffield, England

http://www.games-workshop.com/MEDIA_CustomProductCatalog/m2440056_Imperial_Datasheet_-_Emperor_Battle_Titan.pdf

And for other apocalypse datasheets, see here.
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

Actually I make the height of an imperator about 50m. Imperial Armour 3 puts the height of a warhound at 14m, so (14/10)*36 = 50.4m, or 165.4 feet.

Though looking at the sizes of some real-world objects, suddenly the imperator seems pretty small...
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

If you count this as evidence (and I see no valid reason not to) then a height of 50m is easy to obtain. The forgeworld warhound titan is about 10 inches tall, which gives you a rough imperator height of 36 inches, as you can see at the start of the topic. Imperial armour 3 also states that the warhound titan is 14 metres tall. Multiply that by 3.6 (because the theoretical imperator is 3.6 times taller than a warhound) and you get 50.4m.

I stress once again that I have not used epic miniatures in any calculations or images. I have used only forgeworld's 40k-scale titans, and the size comparisons published by games workshop for apocalypse. I see no reason why either of these sources is anything less than valid - though of course I am always open to correction.

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Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Ah, then we're of the same mind on the subject. Glad to have enlightened you!

Edit: I've added that link to the original post, to save confusion in future.

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Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

I dunno exactly how tall the model was, but using an extremely rough estimation, it looks about imperator size. The one-bracket-higher effect strikes again!


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I've updated the image to include the Tyranid Heirophant and the Eldar Revenant titans. Mainly because I could.

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Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Size comparison round 2 - Titans versus The World



Building images courtesy of Jeff Russell's Starship Dimensions, the most awesome site I know of for anyone interested in the relative sizes of spaceships (and who isn't?).
Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Some say it was the greatest model ever cast. Fully posable and highly detailed down to the tiniest scale, it took 9 months to assemble and paint. Unfortunately only one was ever made.

The stats it's maker intended for it are however several orders of magnitude higher than those it is possible to represent in warhammer 40k. Even if you were to water them down, using The Dreadnote in a game would be tantamount to an "I WIN" button.
Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

I think you'd find it quite difficult to find a "perfect" factor; as has been discussed here, scale is used somewhat inconsistantly by GW. Still, I wish you the best of luck with your project!
Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

You lowered the firepower?! Actually, I don't recall the profile on the baneblade cannon, so you may be right.
If I ever get around to building one, mine will likely look like this (because I'll copy it): Lucius-pattern Imperator
I'll probably keep it at about 30". The towers on the epic model look rediculous if you ask me, plus there's no way you could fit a laser blaster in one...


Automatically Appended Next Post:
Captain Solon wrote:hmmm. how tall in feet is the warhound titan supposed to be?
Warhounds (according to forgeworld) are about 14 metres tall, which is 45.93 feet.

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Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Thanks, it's nice to know this thing still gets hits!
Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Taking the ranges of weapons and using them to determine distance is a fool's errand. They're just gameplay abstractions - consider that if weapon ranges were accurate to fluff, laser weapons would have a theoretically infinite range.
Made in gb
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Sheffield, England

Got something new for you. If you, like me, have ever wondered how titans compare to other humongous mecha, look no further.

Click for full size:


As always, this image is merely a well-informed estimate. Sizes will differ depending on stance, and where you measure from.
Metal Gear RAY was not included because it's very hard to pin down an exact height for the thing. Suffice it to say, it's about the same size as REX/Warhound.

Also, if there's anything else you'd like to see compared to titans, let me know.


Automatically Appended Next Post:
I've also uploaded all the images in the thread to the Gallery as well, if that's more convenient for anybody.

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2010/08/21 17:18:41


 
Made in gb
Junior Officer with Laspistol





Sheffield, England

No idea, frankly. The only time I've even seen knights in official publications was in that one horus heresy novel, so I've nothing to base a size off. However, the few knight models I've seen by fans tend to be around the 8" range (IIRC).
 
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