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You pay more no real reason. Serious.

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 CKO wrote:
why do i pay more for psycannons on Terminators do they have a relentless rule that I am unaware of?

The cost is more on terminators because they get to keep their melee weapons.
   
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 _SeeD_ wrote:
 CKO wrote:
why do i pay more for psycannons on Terminators do they have a relentless rule that I am unaware of?

The cost is more on terminators because they get to keep their melee weapons.


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 _SeeD_ wrote:
 CKO wrote:
why do i pay more for psycannons on Terminators do they have a relentless rule that I am unaware of?

The cost is more on terminators because they get to keep their melee weapons.


Dumb, because you're now paying points for that melee weapon. While the PA guy simply doesn't have to pay for the melee weapon, meaning it is effectively just a refund.

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 Grey Templar wrote:
 _SeeD_ wrote:
 CKO wrote:
why do i pay more for psycannons on Terminators do they have a relentless rule that I am unaware of?

The cost is more on terminators because they get to keep their melee weapons.


Dumb, because you're now paying points for that melee weapon. While the PA guy simply doesn't have to pay for the melee weapon, meaning it is effectively just a refund.

I also think Terminators should have no penalty to shooting heavy weapons on the move. It could easily be put in the "Crux Terminatus" designation.
   
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Hamburg

Here is my current GK list, 2000 pts.
It's quite good (especially vs. infantry armies) since in round two (beta) it makes possible a massive strike with almost 200 shots: 140 S4 from storm bolters, 2x12 shots from heavy psilencers, 2xD6 automatic hits from heavy incinerators, and 3x8 shots from twin autocannons.
Spoiler:

New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [133 PL, 2008pts]
Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [68 PL, 1068pts]
HQ
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 254pts]
Selections: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Sanctuary, Warlord

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 254pts]
Selections: Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Sanctuary

Troops
Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Elites
Paladin Squad [19 PL, 245pts]
Selections: Sanctuary

4x Paladin (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Paragon
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter

Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [31 PL, 416pts]
HQ
Techmarine [7 PL, 71pts]
Selections: Boltgun, Power axe, Vortex of Doom

Servo-arms (CODEX)
Selections: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Fast Attack
Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [34 PL, 524pts]
HQ
Techmarine [7 PL, 71pts]
Selections: Boltgun, Power axe, Vortex of Doom

Servo-arms (CODEX)
Selections: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Elites
Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Created with BattleScribe

Thoughts?

This message was edited 1 time. Last update was at 2019/03/24 07:47:18


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 _SeeD_ wrote:
I also think Terminators should have no penalty to shooting heavy weapons on the move. It could easily be put in the "Crux Terminatus" designation.


Tbh I would already be happy if the damn Dreadknight/GMDK could fire heavy weapons without penalty (even though hes like the one model in our army that does not technically need buffing)
but to me its getting ridiculous at this point that a tiny havoc csm can just waltz up to me and fire his heavy weapon no problem but my big robot with all his hydraulics and whatnot cant...

This message was edited 2 times. Last update was at 2019/03/24 12:38:50


 
   
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 wuestenfux wrote:
Here is my current GK list, 2000 pts.
It's quite good (especially vs. infantry armies) since in round two (beta) it makes possible a massive strike with almost 200 shots: 140 S4 from storm bolters, 2x12 shots from heavy psilencers, 2xD6 automatic hits from heavy incinerators, and 3x8 shots from twin autocannons.
Spoiler:

New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [133 PL, 2008pts]
Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [68 PL, 1068pts]
HQ
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 254pts]
Selections: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Sanctuary, Warlord

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 254pts]
Selections: Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Sanctuary

Troops
Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Elites
Paladin Squad [19 PL, 245pts]
Selections: Sanctuary

4x Paladin (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Paragon
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter

Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [31 PL, 416pts]
HQ
Techmarine [7 PL, 71pts]
Selections: Boltgun, Power axe, Vortex of Doom

Servo-arms (CODEX)
Selections: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Fast Attack
Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [34 PL, 524pts]
HQ
Techmarine [7 PL, 71pts]
Selections: Boltgun, Power axe, Vortex of Doom

Servo-arms (CODEX)
Selections: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Elites
Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Created with BattleScribe

Thoughts?


I really like the list and it is somewhat what I am using as a framework for my 1st 2k points, albeit a few changes. My question is about the paladins, why did you choose them and the gear you gave them? whats the role they are filling? I have been wanting to incorporate some into my list and was looking at 2 groups of 3 with halberds and psilencer.

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 Solosam47 wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Here is my current GK list, 2000 pts.
It's quite good (especially vs. infantry armies) since in round two (beta) it makes possible a massive strike with almost 200 shots: 140 S4 from storm bolters, 2x12 shots from heavy psilencers, 2xD6 automatic hits from heavy incinerators, and 3x8 shots from twin autocannons.
Spoiler:

New Roster (Warhammer 40,000 8th Edition) [133 PL, 2008pts]
Battalion Detachment +5CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [68 PL, 1068pts]
HQ
Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 254pts]
Selections: 4: First to the Fray, Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Sanctuary, Warlord

Grand Master in Nemesis Dreadknight [14 PL, 254pts]
Selections: Dreadfist, Dreadfist, Dreadknight teleporter, Gatling Psilencer, Heavy Incinerator, Sanctuary

Troops
Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Strike Squad [7 PL, 105pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Grey Knight (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Grey Knight Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Elites
Paladin Squad [19 PL, 245pts]
Selections: Sanctuary

4x Paladin (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Paragon
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm Bolter

Outrider Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [31 PL, 416pts]
HQ
Techmarine [7 PL, 71pts]
Selections: Boltgun, Power axe, Vortex of Doom

Servo-arms (CODEX)
Selections: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Fast Attack
Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Interceptor Squad [8 PL, 115pts]
Selections: Hammerhand

4x Interceptor (Sword)
Selections: 4x Storm Bolter

Interceptor Justicar
Selections: Nemesis Force Sword, Storm bolter

Vanguard Detachment +1CP (Imperium – Grey Knights) [34 PL, 524pts]
HQ
Techmarine [7 PL, 71pts]
Selections: Boltgun, Power axe, Vortex of Doom

Servo-arms (CODEX)
Selections: Flamer, Plasma cutter

Elites
Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Created with BattleScribe

Thoughts?


I really like the list and it is somewhat what I am using as a framework for my 1st 2k points, albeit a few changes. My question is about the paladins, why did you choose them and the gear you gave them? whats the role they are filling? I have been wanting to incorporate some into my list and was looking at 2 groups of 3 with halberds and psilencer.

The Paladins fill holes in the tactical alignment of the army.
Nevertheless, they are the most questionable unit in the list.

The rest of the army is quite straightforward:
The 2 GMNKs and the 3 Strike squads deep-strike and the 3 Interceptor squads teleport, everything in round 2. The enemy has (almost) no chance to see it coming.
One of the Dreads uses astral aim, and the other two run with the Techmarines. Looks like the optimal way to keep them alive.

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Thanks for the insight! I’m hoping to be trying out a version of this list but with a few changes, as much as I want to run paladins I think I may use points elsewhere. I don’t believe GK is very prominent in my are so this should catch people off guard left and right.

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Hamburg

 Solosam47 wrote:
Thanks for the insight! I’m hoping to be trying out a version of this list but with a few changes, as much as I want to run paladins I think I may use points elsewhere. I don’t believe GK is very prominent in my are so this should catch people off guard left and right.

Stormbolters are very effective vs. T3 units.
Against tanks lascannons are more effective.

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Just so you're aware, it now costs us 388pts for a Vanguard of Fallen with a Sorcerer, who can then summon Daemons.

So if you want some cheap Marine bodies (14ppm), a decent character (Cypher), Death Hex (from the Sorc) and perhaps a Bloodthirster to back up your GK, it's a go!

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 wuestenfux wrote:
Here is my current GK list, 2000 pts.


Elites
Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon


Thoughts?



After some longer timout on 40K, a friend an me are about to reactivate.
But above puzzles me! Are our Dreadnoughts allowed to carry autocannons again?
My codex doesn't say so and I could not find any erratas either...or is this some house rules used by some players?

Please enlighten me, because I own those autocannons and would like to use them, too. ^^
   
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Amaurosis wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Here is my current GK list, 2000 pts.


Elites
Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon


Thoughts?



After some longer timout on 40K, a friend an me are about to reactivate.
But above puzzles me! Are our Dreadnoughts allowed to carry autocannons again?
My codex doesn't say so and I could not find any erratas either...or is this some house rules used by some players?

Please enlighten me, because I own those autocannons and would like to use them, too. ^^

Technically, you're allowed to use the Index rules. If you remember, the Indexes were the interim rules between 7th and 8th edition.
   
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Index rules are available yes, and the TL Autocannons are a cheap way to add some decent firepower that doesn't worry about high Invul saves everywhere.

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Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Index rules are available yes, and the TL Autocannons are a cheap way to add some decent firepower that doesn't worry about high Invul saves everywhere.

Indeed. Against a single Toughness 8 enemy, the ML gives a slight advantage in wounds/point, but if you lower the toughness and increase the number of enemy models, the TL Autocannon is good (30 points right now).

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 _SeeD_ wrote:
Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Index rules are available yes, and the TL Autocannons are a cheap way to add some decent firepower that doesn't worry about high Invul saves everywhere.

Indeed. Against a single Toughness 8 enemy, the ML gives a slight advantage in wounds/point, but if you lower the toughness and increase the number of enemy models, the TL Autocannon is good (30 points right now).


Actually 33pts, but your point is still 100% valid.

Sadly, the CA change to 30pts for Twin Autocannon was for Forgeworld units only. Battlescribe GK files incorrectly priced them at 30pts for a significant period of time, and the correction back to 33pts was made only a few weeks ago.

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 _SeeD_ wrote:
Amaurosis wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Here is my current GK list, 2000 pts.


Elites
Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon

Venerable Dreadnought [9 PL, 151pts]
Selections: Astral Aim, Twin autocannon, Twin autocannon


Thoughts?



After some longer timout on 40K, a friend an me are about to reactivate.
But above puzzles me! Are our Dreadnoughts allowed to carry autocannons again?
My codex doesn't say so and I could not find any erratas either...or is this some house rules used by some players?

Please enlighten me, because I own those autocannons and would like to use them, too. ^^

Technically, you're allowed to use the Index rules. If you remember, the Indexes were the interim rules between 7th and 8th edition.

Right.
I've used the index and battlescribe.
The combo lascannon and missile launcher is certainly also a viable option.

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Hamburg

Well, with this list I've battled my friend Eric,
first with his GSC and second with his EC.
Both times, he got almost tabled.
His GSC had three characters left after 5 rounds and his EC had 1 Rhino and 1 Sorcerer left after 6 rounds.
Not too bad if you ask me.
But loosing even a single GK hurts a lot.

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 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Just so you're aware, it now costs us 388pts for a Vanguard of Fallen with a Sorcerer, who can then summon Daemons.

So if you want some cheap Marine bodies (14ppm), a decent character (Cypher), Death Hex (from the Sorc) and perhaps a Bloodthirster to back up your GK, it's a go!


I don't play fallen. Not do I have the codex with their rules. But, the FAQ came out saying cypher can't summon demons and I didn't think fallen squads had a sorcerer.

Can anyone confirm?

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 Smotejob wrote:
 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Just so you're aware, it now costs us 388pts for a Vanguard of Fallen with a Sorcerer, who can then summon Daemons.

So if you want some cheap Marine bodies (14ppm), a decent character (Cypher), Death Hex (from the Sorc) and perhaps a Bloodthirster to back up your GK, it's a go!


I don't play fallen. Not do I have the codex with their rules. But, the FAQ came out saying cypher can't summon demons and I didn't think fallen squads had a sorcerer.

Can anyone confirm?


In the new vigilus book fallen got access to sorcerers and rhinos, I don’t know about any restrictions to that because I don’t have the book, but yes you are slightly mistaken.

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 Smotejob wrote:
 Elric Greywolf wrote:
Just so you're aware, it now costs us 388pts for a Vanguard of Fallen with a Sorcerer, who can then summon Daemons.

So if you want some cheap Marine bodies (14ppm), a decent character (Cypher), Death Hex (from the Sorc) and perhaps a Bloodthirster to back up your GK, it's a go!


I don't play fallen. Not do I have the codex with their rules. But, the FAQ came out saying cypher can't summon demons and I didn't think fallen squads had a sorcerer.

Can anyone confirm?


There's a specialist detachment with Vigilus Ablaze that allows Fallen to take Sorcerers and Rhinos, and gives them keywords that allow them to ally with Imperium detachments.
   
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It's the ultimate in heresy, but I am tickled by the idea of a GK army battling with Fallen allies who summon daemons, and I have the models to do this.

Now if only one could Warptime a GMNDK...



 
   
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One question:
Ancient with standard relic + Captain. Is a good combo? I belive than it a expensive combo but I don't know if it is a good combo.
   
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Cos wrote:
One question:
Ancient with standard relic + Captain. Is a good combo? I belive than it a expensive combo but I don't know if it is a good combo.

Well, I'd stay away from all HQs other than GMNKs and Techmarines.
Too expensive and too less game impact.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
Cos wrote:
One question:
Ancient with standard relic + Captain. Is a good combo? I belive than it a expensive combo but I don't know if it is a good combo.

Well, I'd stay away from all HQs other than GMNKs and Techmarines.
Too expensive and too less game impact.


If I might ask...why techmarines?

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 Lord Clinto wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Cos wrote:
One question:
Ancient with standard relic + Captain. Is a good combo? I belive than it a expensive combo but I don't know if it is a good combo.

Well, I'd stay away from all HQs other than GMNKs and Techmarines.
Too expensive and too less game impact.


If I might ask...why techmarines?

Well, I use one or two Techmarines in my GK army if it contains Dreads.
They are great to keep them alive.

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 wuestenfux wrote:
 Lord Clinto wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Cos wrote:
One question:
Ancient with standard relic + Captain. Is a good combo? I belive than it a expensive combo but I don't know if it is a good combo.

Well, I'd stay away from all HQs other than GMNKs and Techmarines.
Too expensive and too less game impact.


If I might ask...why techmarines?

Well, I use one or two Techmarines in my GK army if it contains Dreads.
They are great to keep them alive.


Okay, in a support role. Wasn't sure if I was missing something with them. =)
Personally I hate the fact that GK Techmarines lost the ability to take force weapons; imo they lost a lot of character/fluff.

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 Lord Clinto wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
 Lord Clinto wrote:
 wuestenfux wrote:
Cos wrote:
One question:
Ancient with standard relic + Captain. Is a good combo? I belive than it a expensive combo but I don't know if it is a good combo.

Well, I'd stay away from all HQs other than GMNKs and Techmarines.
Too expensive and too less game impact.


If I might ask...why techmarines?

Well, I use one or two Techmarines in my GK army if it contains Dreads.
They are great to keep them alive.


Okay, in a support role. Wasn't sure if I was missing something with them. =)
Personally I hate the fact that GK Techmarines lost the ability to take force weapons; imo they lost a lot of character/fluff.

Well, in my games so far with GK, my Techmarines never got into cc action.
In one game my Ven Dreads came under heavy fire but were in cover and the two Techmarines helped to keep them alive.

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