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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 22:26:25
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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I been playing fantasy daemons for a long time and I now want to play them in 40k as well. Whats the best basing solution to make this possible? Swappable bases by using magnets or pins? Are magnets or pins a better option? They do make movement trays for circular bases but then you run into a problem if you have a herald with wings that flies out of the unit guess I have to do that one on a swappable base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 23:08:22
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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You could base them on 40k round bases, and sculpt a movement tray that has round slots instead of square. I couldn't imagine the shape of the individual bases matter as long as they're still lined up in rank.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 23:38:43
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Virulent Space Marine dedicated to Nurgle
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The new War of the Ring movement trays might be helpful...
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 23:40:10
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Madrak Ironhide
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DebonaireToast wrote:The new War of the Ring movement trays might be helpful...
Can anyone measure? Lining models up is important in Warhammer (though I know
most experienced players know how many models should line up) and the current
trays only allow you to line them up 4 across, I think.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 23:42:50
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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I think they are the wrong size.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 23:44:18
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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i would use standard round bases for them, once in M.trays they fit pretty well together.
if you want to go the extra mile and fill in the spaces between bases then by all means go for it.
but they do fit fine
infact, they rank up better as you can turn them slightly if needed
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/23 23:57:35
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Madrak Ironhide
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JD21290 wrote:i would use standard round bases for them, once in M.trays they fit pretty well together.
if you want to go the extra mile and fill in the spaces between bases then by all means go for it.
but they do fit fine
infact, they rank up better as you can turn them slightly if needed 
You mean the standard Fantasy trays, right? The War of the Rings ones look off for this
sort of thing.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 00:50:36
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Enigmatic Sorcerer of Chaos
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hmmmmm... not sure exactly how well the War of the rings trays would work... i was just going to use the WoTR trays for my 40k orks  moving 400 orks in a game just sucks!
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 00:52:00
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Horrific Hive Tyrant
London (work) / Pompey (live, from time to time)
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yea malf, the old style GW ones work well.
ive used them before to move boyz about to save time in large games.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 01:27:19
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Homicidal Veteran Blood Angel Assault Marine
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You could simply bluetack them onto square bases - that way you have them "correctly based".
Alternatively, you could cut a correct sized hole in a square base that would see it cut over the sides. Then put it on some plasticard and your round base would fit in neatly. You could even put a magnet on there and fully base it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 01:35:16
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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JD21290 wrote:i would use standard round bases for them, once in M.trays they fit pretty well together.
if you want to go the extra mile and fill in the spaces between bases then by all means go for it.
but they do fit fine
infact, they rank up better as you can turn them slightly if needed 
Hmm.. that's a good idea. I have a bunch of trays for my Warriors of chaos. And all of my deamons are already on round bases. I should just go out and buy the book and then I'd have a whole other fantasy army!
Does anyone know if any of the deamons use the smaller square infantry bases? The only ones I would think might are the deamonettes, t and even though I got the plastic box of them, I can't remember what size bases they had.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 01:50:24
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Fixture of Dakka
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They have the big ones.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 02:25:01
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Dakka Veteran
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just an FYI, the R&F war of the ring trays are only 4 wide =(
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 04:33:48
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Angry Blood Angel Assault marine
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Make some scenic basing for them, but build them up on the material on the base (thin slate is nice) then drill out a hole in the bottom of the slate or whatever, and in the top of all the bases. Green stuff/glue magnets in to them and make sure they all line up. That way, you have models with scenery and everything that you can just pluck off the plastic 40k base and put them right on a fantasy base. This seems like the easiest method, because slate is cheap, scenic bases look nice if you don't make them too tall to give yourself a LoS disadvantage, only problem is, you need 3 magnets per unit. That's nothing but a cash and easy labor investment.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 04:50:45
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Freelance Soldier
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The GW Modular bases can work just fine. build them 5 or more wide as you would for square bases, magnetize it, and put the round bases in. they're contained within the right base size, and with magnets they wont move around
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 05:20:26
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The WOTR trays are too big in addition to being only 4 bases.
They are about 120mm long, so they'd take the space of 6 standard troops or alittle less then 5 bigger troops (Orks/Saurus)
The main problem is that the WOTR tray has a space between each base, where as fantasy trays would have base to base.
You should have the square bases on the bottom, and then magnetize a round base on top of that, as Fantasy doesn't have True LOS, so extra height won't be an issue.
Or as another thought... why not just leave them on square bases for both systems? a 25mm Square has the same amount of deepstrike change as a 25mm circle, and its like a one and a billion chance a template would be affected differently.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 17:43:09
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
Burbank, CA
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So I checked out my round to the larger (small) square bases, and they seem to be fine. The 40mm round ones seem pretty close to the 40mm square ones, but the biggest square base seems a decent amount smaller than the 60mm round one. does anyone have a fix for that? or how do people usually get around this?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 18:19:57
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Fixture of Dakka
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There is a 60 mm square base just get the movement tray and rank them up in that.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 18:46:05
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Fixture of Dakka
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The largest Fantasy base is 50mm
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 18:55:02
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
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Why is there two threads for the same question?
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/24 20:36:13
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Joined the Military for Authentic Experience
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Two different users asking simultaneously.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/25 02:16:32
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Fixture of Dakka
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50 x 100 is the largest base.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/25 17:43:10
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Shrieking Traitor Sentinel Pilot
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I guess I'll have to mock up some 60mm square movement type trays for the bigger guys then. Hopefully that won't be a problem in game terms.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/25 17:54:39
Subject: rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Longtime Dakkanaut
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Thank you for the replies. Probably will go with the round bases and just rank them up in a movement tray. The only time this is an issue is with the Winged Herald might leave the unit so will either magnetize this one or just leave it on a square base since I don't intend on using a winged herald for 40k. I do like the slate idea for this though.
What do you think is the best way to base the Greater Daemons? Magnetize them to swap them between bases or would a couple pins that slide into holes in the bases be better.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/03/25 20:10:38
Subject: Re:rebasing fantasy daemons for use for both fantasy and 40k?
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Fixture of Dakka
drinking ale on the ground like russ intended
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Magnet pins
http://www.rare-earth-magnets.com/SearchResult-CategoryID-32.html
These are the sleeve put these in the base.
http://www.rare-earth-magnets.com/SearchResult-CategoryID-34.html
these are the pin put these in the model.
Or use steel pins the size of the interior dia of the sleeve.
Edit to fix last statement.
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