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 DaveC wrote:
This turned up in the KS comments possible new monster Lotus

http://ensoul.deviantart.com/art/Kingdom-Death-monster-preview-Lotus-527519868

Very interesting!

Oooooh nice! I love the face full of eyes

That... Looks terrifying. I need it. This game has gotten to the point that I bought every expansion sans the Lion God and Lonely Tree, and will likely buy any (and every) expansion in the future. I'm still hoping the Nightmare Ram makes its way into Monster, and I can't wait to see this fox creature he teased not too long ago.

My gaming group has discussed some things we'd love to see, and first and foremost, we'd love to see models (pin-ups or otherwise) of the starting four survivors; Alistair, Zachary, Erza, and Lucy. We've discussed how cool a creepy giant golem or some sort of burrower worm would be. I'd love to see his take on a wendigo, or (thanks to Monster Musume) either in pin-up or monster version, a Lamia!

Out of interest, are you willing to buy 'small' single-monster expansions at $50 and 'large' expansions at $100 for this game on a regular basis? Given the play-length of the average campaign, at what point is there more content than you'd realistically experience?

I'm interested, because the setup is quite dramatically different from a normal boardgame, even a miniatures-heavy one. The $50/$100 correlates quite nicely with the Zombicide "expansions" and "base games" for example, and I can definitely say that every Zombicide player I know has heavy fatigue with the game after 2 of the former and 3 of the latter.

Equally, you can be midway through a fairly epic campaign in Kingdom Death, buy a new monster box and have it slot seamlessly into the experience, so perhaps it's more like buying a meaty expansion book for a multi-month RPG that you've been running.

I probably will be

(depending on how the postage costs go for things to come direct from KD)

I enjoy model building (and painting if they inspire me which almost all of the KS stuff does) and price wise it's about the same as I'd end up paying for a decent scale model kit, (or something from GW)

and the fact that it's then usable in a game that I think I'm going to enjoy too makes it even better

Depends on availability outside of the US I suppose. Despite my criticism of the items in hand thus far, I am all for more of this stuff, as replays of the game will ultimately make you want to add in new adversaries and new rewards. It's a great way of keeping both a company and a game alive without rebooting it.

I'd be happy to buy expansions of this quality for $50-$100 as I can see this one being the sort of game I leave set up in the corner of the room and play solo if there is no-one around. As long as it isn't too often though as postage/customs will kill me

Digital record sheets are going to be a must for this too

As for things I'd like to see? a giant worm creature that appears and disappears from the board would be great, as would a Trap-door spider-like event.

Same here, I was verging on selling it, but now I have it, I definitely want to try it out for a bit.

Expansions? Depends on price and availability. And, if we're wishlisting, hope they consider a Unicorn style expansion.

There's always room for more outlandish monsters that really push the whole body horror theme.

Oh lord, a KD wendigo would be horrifying. A burrowing monster would be interesting also. I'm really looking forward to the "fox demon" that Adam mentioned in one of the updates.

As far as expansions go, as long as the quality stays at least as high as it is now, I'm willing to buy most anything I can afford. There are quite a few items that have shown up in the KD store that I passed on, only because I want to wait until they have game content. *stares longingly at the storm knight*

 DaveC wrote:
This turned up in the KS comments possible new monster Lotus

http://ensoul.deviantart.com/art/Kingdom-Death-monster-preview-Lotus-527519868

That's really cool. Playing up the trypophobia.

Now I'm home I can post the Jungle Queen/Lotus Monster artwork as well

Cranked out my survivors and Lion last night.

I can easily see a Settlement Vs. Settlement action going on in here, especially with the diametrically opposed options that happen. ( Life/ Death) (burial/ Cannibalism) etc.etc...

As for the expansions, I want that last one, that I don't remember what it was... LMAO!!!!! Gimme Gimme Gimme!!! Gimme Some more!!!

The most striking thing about this game is the quality, BTW.

The best product on the market, even if it doesn't come with directions on how to build the stuff, it is simple, amazingly detailed, and reasonable in terms of expand on your own, build as you go.

Each task should take a couple of days, at best, then you have a top notch "We're not worthy" to paint miniature on your hands...

Biggest gripe I have is Glue. Be careful with your Zap a gap on these babies, might have to get some Gundam glue for it, instead. Save my finger meat, save the model from getting its D 10 sacrifice.

Anyone want to get rid of their base survivors, I need more.


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 DaveC wrote:
Now I'm home I can post the Jungle Queen/Lotus Monster artwork as well

Make sure you bring your 7 Demon bag.

Augh that art is GORGEOUS! Cant wait to see the expansion/model from that!!

 endtransmission wrote:
Oooooh nice! I love the face full of eyes

This is Kingdom Death. Are you sure that's its face?

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
Oooooh nice! I love the face full of eyes

This is Kingdom Death. Are you sure that's its face?

Definitely its head.

Love the Lotus concept, just gorgeous.

I wonder if Adam will be kickstarting these expansions.

Bioptic wrote:
Out of interest, are you willing to buy 'small' single-monster expansions at $50 and 'large' expansions at $100 for this game on a regular basis? Given the play-length of the average campaign, at what point is there more content than you'd realistically experience?

I'm interested, because the setup is quite dramatically different from a normal boardgame, even a miniatures-heavy one. The $50/$100 correlates quite nicely with the Zombicide "expansions" and "base games" for example, and I can definitely say that every Zombicide player I know has heavy fatigue with the game after 2 of the former and 3 of the latter.

Equally, you can be midway through a fairly epic campaign in Kingdom Death, buy a new monster box and have it slot seamlessly into the experience, so perhaps it's more like buying a meaty expansion book for a multi-month RPG that you've been running.

Well, the estimated MSRP (I believe is a more recent estimation) on minor expansions is about $35, while major expansions are anticipated to be about $65. They have seen scale-creep in content much like the base board game did, though, it's said to be not nearly as much, and I believe the original estimates for MSRP were $25 and $50, so I think $35 and $65 is a good guess.

To actually answer your question, yes, I would buy expansions as they came out, assuming money wasn't extremely tight. There's generally a video game I'd like to buy but can pass on to make up for the funds, kind of deal, you know? At least, I'd use the standard my wife and I set out during the Kickstarter (wow, she was only my girlfriend when we backed this, crazy!) in that we'd definitely buy any major expansion, and will buy any minor expansion if we like the monster. That's how I ended up passing on only the Lion God (though we'll see if I buy it once it hits retail...) Major expansions seem to offer enough content to warrant a purchase even if I'm not a huge fan of the monster (more armor in game/models is more better!), whereas if it's just a monster and a few pieces of gear, it's not as big of a thing to miss out on.

Given how often KD stuff comes out as it is, I don't think we'll have to worry about too many new expansions too quickly, I'd be surprised if more than, say, six come out per year (not including the ones in the kickstarter, obviously).

I bet he'll just put them in his store and not do a kickstarter for more Monster content. When it comes time to do the next KD game, then it'll hit Kickstarter for sure, though. So we know he's working on at least two major expansions (Ring tailed fox demon, as he showed the armor) and the Nightmare Ram (he mentioned fighting the Ram in a dungeon, which would mean new board tiles? Definitely a major expansion). I'm guessing that the Lotus monster will be a minor expansion, and I'd wager we'll be getting a Storm Knight, Smoke Knight, and/or Flower Witch minor expansion in the near(ish) future.

 Tannhauser42 wrote:

 endtransmission wrote:
Oooooh nice! I love the face full of eyes

This is Kingdom Death. Are you sure that's its face?

The "face" is a lotus seed pod and the "eyes" are seeds:
http://images.says.com/uploads/story_source/source_image/314820/b633.jpg

T

 The Fragile Breath wrote:
I bet he'll just put them in his store and not do a kickstarter for more Monster content. When it comes time to do the next KD game, then it'll hit Kickstarter for sure, though. So we know he's working on at least two major expansions (Ring tailed fox demon, as he showed the armor) and the Nightmare Ram (he mentioned fighting the Ram in a dungeon, which would mean new board tiles? Definitely a major expansion). I'm guessing that the Lotus monster will be a minor expansion, and I'd wager we'll be getting a Storm Knight, Smoke Knight, and/or Flower Witch minor expansion in the near(ish) future.

I don't see why he wouldn't do a small(er) KS for those 2 majors and 4+ minors. It'd be far more manageable with what should be a tighter delivery window.

Is there a painting guide for the figures, or somewhere that has some pointers on the color pallet for the game? Black, white, or gray spray-paint is nice, but its kind of missing something.

So far, some skin tones for the survivors, and white/ off-white for the cloth.

Bone white on the lion so far, but it needs something else. I can't say enough good things about this game, by the way.

 Grot 6 wrote:
Is there a painting guide for the figures, or somewhere that has some pointers on the color pallet for the game? Black, white, or gray spray-paint is nice, but its kind of missing something.

So far, some skin tones for the survivors, and white/ off-white for the cloth.

Bone white on the lion so far, but it needs something else. I can't say enough good things about this game, by the way.

http://gallery.kingdomdeath.com/

Here are a few painting guides. But aside from those, take a look at CMON's gallery. Some amazing KD paintjobs there.

 RivenSkull wrote:

 Grot 6 wrote:
Is there a painting guide for the figures, or somewhere that has some pointers on the color pallet for the game? Black, white, or gray spray-paint is nice, but its kind of missing something.

So far, some skin tones for the survivors, and white/ off-white for the cloth.

Bone white on the lion so far, but it needs something else. I can't say enough good things about this game, by the way.

http://gallery.kingdomdeath.com/

Here are a few painting guides. But aside from those, take a look at CMON's gallery. Some amazing KD paintjobs there.

Thanks for the link, and quick reply

On the question of expansions, this is of course a bit of speculation, but based on the core campaign...

I wouldn't hesitate to pick any of the major ones (though you could probably do it really gradually, since there's not much advantage to fighting a ton of types in any campaign). If they've got a full armor style, you can expect easily getting more than a half-dozen games in in a campaign if you're trying to fight them. It also looks like at least some come with what amount to campaign variants.

On the nemeses, they come up far less regularly (nor as controllably), and basically take the role of minibosses, so are more variety than anything else. If money were a factor, I'd probably limit that to my favorite one in addition to the core three.

Can anyone tell me when the second release of Percival will happen? Is there a certain number of weeks between the original release and the follow up?

 The Red Graf wrote:
Can anyone tell me when the second release of Percival will happen? Is there a certain number of weeks between the original release and the follow up?

As far as we know there's no way to predict when items will be made available with Kingdom Death. The best way to obtain that kind of information is to join their mailing list. An email is usually sent out announcing new model releases and/or restocks.

 The Red Graf wrote:
Can anyone tell me when the second release of Percival will happen? Is there a certain number of weeks between the original release and the follow up?

If you are looking for one, I will probably end up not painting mine for a while. Drop me a PM if you're interested.

 Dentry wrote:

 The Red Graf wrote:
Can anyone tell me when the second release of Percival will happen? Is there a certain number of weeks between the original release and the follow up?

As far as we know there's no way to predict when items will be made available with Kingdom Death. The best way to obtain that kind of information is to join their mailing list. An email is usually sent out announcing new model releases and/or restocks.

Also they're in 24/7 Kickstarter delivery mode, so I wouldn't expect any new releases between now and Black Friday.

NEW STUFF!





And a bunch of encores including the Halloween Twilight Knight!



Also, I was unable to place an order for more than three miniatures at once. Said no shipping option was available to my location when I tried and it wouldn't go through until I split the miniatures into multiple orders. Just as an FYI to anyone who experiences the same thing.

It says 'Limit 3 per a customer' for the witches, this might mean you cant order more than 3 of em tin total. I just ordered the thief mage fighter and forsaker with no problem.