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Made in us
[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Episode 30 brings us back to Warmachine. The D6G team has had a chance to play a few games with the Mark II playtest rules and we analyze what the changes are along with what Privateer Press is trying to accomplish. Are these the kind of things other game companies should do?

But first, our listeners have really stepped up to the plate with some very creative betrayal contest entries. Join us as we listen along and have a laugh, as well as award some prizes.

All that and our usual 'not too horrible' humor, with features such as:

- Rapid Fire
- The Hollywood Minute
- When Wives Attack
- Words from Wales
- & More

Check out the show here:
http://thed6generation.libsyn.com/index.php?post_id=470145

Please let us know what you think!

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Made in us
Skillful Swordsman





Rockford, IL

Russ,

Getting an error message when trying to DL direct from the D6G site.

Edit: Tried iTunes as well and got an error there too.

Just a heads-up.

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Player of many. Master of none. My blog - http://jack-of-all-games.blogspot.com/ 
   
Made in us
[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Jack of all games wrote:Russ,

Getting an error message when trying to DL direct from the D6G site.

Edit: Tried iTunes as well and got an error there too.

Just a heads-up.


Seems to be working ok at the moment, and we've already had lots of downloads. Give it another try, perhaps you were just experiencing a wierd Internet issue.

 
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




What is the name of the company that is making the new mini's game?

And was there something about a new Warmachine faction?

Can someone post links, please?

Thank you!
   
Made in us
[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Derak wrote:What is the name of the company that is making the new mini's game?

And was there something about a new Warmachine faction?

Can someone post links, please?

Thank you!


New Mini's Game:

Arcane Legions: http://arcanelegions.com/

New Race for WM:
http://www.PrivateerPress.com (Check the banner on the right)

PP players know this will be Ios, the elves. It was hinted at very blatently in Legends.


 
   
Made in gb
Average Orc Boy




Wales

Great show as ever, loved the Discussion on Warmachine, as someone who finds the original rules quite inaccessable they seem like a breath of fresh air. Looking forward to more on the subject.

Apologies for "Generic American Guy, " I love American's me

 
   
Made in no
Regular Dakkanaut




I love Russ' verdict on the Imperial Guard codex: "I just wish the book felt cooler to read, for example by it having a Privateer Press logo on the cover".

Good discussion on the MkII rules, guys. Nice spread of opinions. Craig: do you think the changes would have made your tournament game against the Pirates any better?
   
Made in us
Skillful Swordsman





Rockford, IL

RussWakelin wrote:Seems to be working ok at the moment, and we've already had lots of downloads. Give it another try, perhaps you were just experiencing a wierd Internet issue.

Got it to work finally. Had to do the whole "disconnect everything, wait 10 seconds, reconnect" thing.
DL'ing now. Good thing too. I want to get some painting done tonight and I needed something to listen to.

Player of many. Master of none. My blog - http://jack-of-all-games.blogspot.com/ 
   
Made in au
Pauper with Promise





Great show but a bit too much love and not enough "not hate".

You guys should really do a vodcast when reviewing a game because I fell like my brain is going to explode trying to visualise whats going on while Russ is going full steam ahead into describing it.



   
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Pauper with Promise





BTW Russ do you listen to Security Now from Twit?
   
Made in us
Mindless Spore Mine






YAY! I feel so validated.

My wife thought you said "Oh so tired", though.

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Made in gb
Stitch Counter






Rowlands Gill

Nice Words from Wales, Owen!
I visited Beddgelert (http://www.beddgelerttourism.com/gelert/) when I was a kid. Lovely place!

I forgot to congratulate you on your trashtalkin' last ep and the help it so obviously gave Craig. See, you can always trust the Welsh to talk a good fight...

Great WWA too, as ever. The only bit I thought was missing was the advice that should be given to wives that when the loving and dutiful husband and father abandons his gaming evening to help clean up the vomit *your* kids have deposited all over the new carpet in response to your frantic screaming and, frankly, abuse over the phone, he at least should be given a "thankyou honey" afterwards... It's amazing what a well trained husband will do for a little pat on the head! Apart from that, I'm all with Raef on the issue of a man's "cave time"!

Right. I'm up to 2:24, I've got the WMII review to look forward to on my trip home. Should be good! Personally I'm hoping Russ complains about the downloadable PDF not having good enough artwork...

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Cheers
Paul 
   
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Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Osbad wrote:Right. I'm up to 2:24, I've got the WMII review to look forward to on my trip home. Should be good! Personally I'm hoping Russ complains about the downloadable PDF not having good enough artwork...


Oh the downloadable PDF is AWEFUL. It has no table of contents, no index, no pictures, and is entirly black and white!!!! I want my money back! ... oh wait.

 
   
Made in gb
Stitch Counter






Rowlands Gill

RussWakelin wrote:
Osbad wrote:Right. I'm up to 2:24, I've got the WMII review to look forward to on my trip home. Should be good! Personally I'm hoping Russ complains about the downloadable PDF not having good enough artwork...


Oh the downloadable PDF is AWEFUL. It has no table of contents, no index, no pictures, and is entirly black and white!!!! I want my money back! ... oh wait.


LOL!

Actually I thought of you last night when I played the new WotR for the first time. The new WotR rulebook actually does have a functional index!! A proper one!!! I was gobsmacked! You should check it out - you'd love it!!

Cheers
Paul 
   
Made in us
Fresh-Faced New User




RussWakelin wrote:
Osbad wrote:Right. I'm up to 2:24, I've got the WMII review to look forward to on my trip home. Should be good! Personally I'm hoping Russ complains about the downloadable PDF not having good enough artwork...


Oh the downloadable PDF is AWEFUL. It has no table of contents, no index, no pictures, and is entirly black and white!!!! I want my money back! ... oh wait.


Well you are in luck. Here is the table of contents. It help a ton using the MK2 pdf. http://www.privateerpressforums.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=9087
   
Made in us
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Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Aardon wrote:

Well you are in luck. Here is the table of contents. It help a ton using the MK2 pdf. http://www.privateerpressforums.com/index.php?act=attach&type=post&id=9087


Ohh, nice. Ask and ye shall receive!

 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut







Oh my god, "Confection of Woe" - hilarious.

   
Made in us
Fixture of Dakka





dead account

Great episode! Loved the contest results and the Warmachine MKII Analysis.
   
Made in us
Skillful Swordsman





Rockford, IL

djphranq wrote:Great episode! Loved the contest results and the Warmachine MKII Analysis.

Ditto! And the D6G guys have a new catchphrase!

Strap it on, guys. Strap it on!

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Made in dk
Umber Guard





Hmmff. That comprehensive Itunes review roll-through seems to have been less than comprehensive. Read the danish reviews, damnit. They're even in english.

I be miffed.
   
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Winter Guard




Kaptajn Congoboy wrote:Hmmff. That comprehensive Itunes review roll-through seems to have been less than comprehensive. Read the danish reviews, damnit. They're even in english.


At least Hollywood pronounced my name correctly!

Owen: Don't apologize! You just hit it on the head.

 
   
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[DCM]
Gun Mage






New Hampshire, USA

Kaptajn Congoboy wrote:Hmmff. That comprehensive Itunes review roll-through seems to have been less than comprehensive. Read the danish reviews, damnit. They're even in english.

I be miffed.


Sorry about that, it turns out we missed a few other reviews too.

As an aside, it is kinda a pain to switch countries in iTunes to find the reviews, so if you leave us a review drop us an e-mail and I'll make a not to check your country when next the reviews come around.

Thank you for the reviews!!!

-Russ

 
   
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Crazed Wardancer





United Kingdom

great work guys. Gotta say I laughed my arse off at some of those betrayals. If I hadn't already shelled out over £120 including import duty to order Cut Throat from Myriad games and import it to the UK, I'd have entered. A little warning on competitions next time please!



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Virginia Beach, Virginia

Generic American Guy is my new favorite character on this, or any, podcast. I laughed so hard my eyes teared up. Or maybe I was reading my credit card balances? Oh well. Cheers Owen.


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Crazed Wardancer





United Kingdom

Needs his own cartoon to be honest.



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Average Orc Boy




Wales

Glad you liked him Tertius. Recording Words from Wales is quite difficult on my own so I may ask him to lend me a hand in the future.
He is a little worried about Swine Flu at the moment though and refuses to take off his mask

 
   
Made in us
Regular Dakkanaut




Is it possible to set points within the podcast to be able to skip ahead to certain sections? I like to go back and listen to certain topics (such as the MK2 discussion) but holding down the fast forward to move past the first 3 hours is a bit annoying.
   
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Sneaky Kommando





Baltimore, MD

I'm looking forward for your review of Munchkin. I love that game, and consistently bring it out to play with my friends. Since it's been out (MUCH) longer, though, I think I should correct you and say that Cutthroat Caverns plays like Munchkin, not the other way around.

   
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Fresh-Faced New User





The show rocked this week, as a newish player to warmachine i would like to thank you all for the in depth review. I though that the contest entries were great , many of them had me laughing. I am looking forward to the munchkin review, as well. cheers all looking forward to the next show.

Oh and before i roll out the words from wales this week rocked keep up the good work owen.
   
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Chicagoland

The Fifth Dentist Report: Feedback to Episode 30

I wanna thank Raef for strapping it on and masterfully wielding it when he transformed my shout-out from silver to gold. I am additionally pleased that, for a modest investment, I get to slightly tweak his world and force him to respond accordingly. In rebelling from my dark influence, he has incorporated it into his own being. I've even been assimilated into your shout-out on shout-outs - and the fact that I remain unacknowledged merely means that I have maintained my cover of darkness. You are not and have never been anyone's stooge - but you now are my contractual-basis minion.

Mwuaaahhhhhhhahhhahh.

But at the same time, I must differ with the iTunes review that says that you should stop picking on THX. I disagree not because I believe you are not picking on him - for you are. But I also think that in this way, much like a fine diamond or a steak, when heat and pressure are applied to the subject, it becomes even better - more refined and spicier.

And I know exactly how to deal with such unsettling comments as "Strap it on!" These comments must be taken from their wielders and used repeatedly and without interruption in order to sap them of their power. After all, consider the alternative!

"In a world where semi-lewd entendres go unanswered..."

Craig - Gotcha. NOT hating Shifty. But I will at least inform you that right now, I will have an initial negative first impression of people who earn the nickname 'Shifty'. So I will confirm and agree that it is a no-hate assignation - but I also want to apprise you of the consequences. Should I eventually drive out to New England and meet your friends, I will be at least suspicious.

All: While I (as someone who doesn't play WH40K) would not be ordering from paintedfigs.com (sowwy), I am inspired by your reference to pink Space Marines with flowers on them - can you tell me what Company Johnny Dangerously would be painted like?

Russ: regarding Space Alert, you used "it's so unique that it's impossible to describe" (paraphrased again), and that's how you didn't describe Peggle last episode. To rip off Oscar Wilde, "To lose one description may be counted a misfortune - to lose two smacks of wordlessness." If you want, I can take a look at the game and describe it for you. *snicker snicker*

Russ: I also got into the Blood Bowl beta - and I agree that I signed an NDA and therefore can't really say anything else. I can't possibly say how totally awesome it was, or that I'm so getting it when it comes out. Can't tell you that.

Craig: Munchkin is cool, but it is not CC. It's much lighter, a bit sillier and (IMHO) is unfortunately a bit vulnerable to gang-up-on-the-leader syndrome. (Which is kinda good, as it means usually nobody can run away with it. But it's kind of annoying to know that as soon as you make a good play and break away from the pack a little bit, you get beaten down. It's the gamer version of how the GOP describes progressive tax rates.) There are many non-gamers I know whose only entry into gaming is Munchkin.

Raef & Russ: I'm still looking forward to my first game of Descent - but my brain rebels at the term "fatigue" as a currency. If I'm spending fatigue, I should become more energized. There are enough gamer synonyms for "stamina" that I think they could have found one. I'm just sayin'. (Anybody remember how to make money in the Infocom-Douglas Adams game Bureaucracy?)

Raef & Craig: if you have time to put something up here or talk about it next time you're on, I want to ask you a question. For RPG games where you've put together the story and enemies yourself, how do you balance the enemies vs. the party? I get completely paralyzed trying to even consider what would constitute "a fair and interesting fight". I get so stymied I completely chicken out and run talk-and-skill-check games - which can be cool, but some of my players have been unsatisfied. I'm playing in a Shadowrun Fourth Edition game now, and it's reminding me how cool crunchy-stat RPGs are. So, in your mind, how do you approach the creation of a fight?

Russ: Regarding the news on Arcane Legions, I seem to recall some sort of historic antipathy on your part for "blind purchase" on constructible games (to wit, CCGs or CMGs as opposed to regular minis games). With the announcement that they are guaranteeing that if you buy a case, you get one of each type - how do you feel about that? I will say that the last two sets of the Star Wars Miniatures game have basically been packed in this tightly controlled way - a case gets you EXACTLY eight of each common, four of each uncommon, one each of the rares and a smattering of the ultrarares. It feels good as a COLLECTOR to have this - but as someone in a group with three other gamers all purchasing cases, it completely depletes the fun trading session after a set comes out, and it also sticks us with a full set of duplicate rares when we buy two cases to get more of the ultra-rares. And these rare sets are anvils, because everyone else who plays has them. If you for a moment set aside your antipathy for blind packaging - would it be better if they mixed up the individual boosters more, but then offered a "mega-set" non-blind purchase edition with all the figs? Or does that steal away from the inherent thrill of a collectible game?

And does the addition of Bejeweled and Peggle to WoW suggest that WoW has grown to the point where it attracts users interested in the community aspect of it who don't actually PLAY the game?

All: The pronunciation issue of "dakka" came up again - whoda thunk it? But as a note on why people *might* use the o-sound ("dokka") rather than the a-sound, consider one of our generation's earliest influences - the comedy stylings of Fozzie the Bear.

"Wakka wakka wakka."
Now say, in the same rhythm:
"Dakka dakka dakka."

There you go.

To the listeners - do you think anyone can tell which contest entry was mine? I wonder how the audience might know.

But speaking of contests - you made a plea during Rapid Fire for advice on how to increase your number of entrants into contests. Speaking as one who didn't make it to the final four, I would only advise that entering a contest where the result is a die roll is, even on the d6 Generation, a little disheartening. If you ask for skill in writing and presentation, it is beholden to you to actually summon the courage to offer a final determination on said creativity. Take that English judge's wig you have on your nightstand - and strap it on.

And to take that wig onto my own head (but as it is not mine, I will NOT be strapping it on) - I might have given it to "No - the LOOT rides shotgun." It lacked some of the glitz and flash of the other entries, but it is succinct and elegant, and is very very intimidating to consider hearing after a long hard road out of a dungeon with the treasure.

But it was VERY weird to hear Raef spice up my very long betrayal story with a snack reference - seeing as I am personally allergic to peanuts and peanut butter. Just nutty irony. And yes, I know it's very long, and thus absolutely needed HD's spice - but I feel so -helpless- about the issue. If anyone ever saw Sports Night with Jeremy's first baseball feature, they will know that that The Storm Clouds Are Gathering.

Oh, and how to do 1-in-4 with d6s - 2d6. Check each die for 1-3 vs. 4-6 - that's two 50% distributions.

HD - your commentary on time prioritizing is good and gutsy - you definitely had it strapped on firmly and snugly. However, it was perhaps a little less...um...deliberative than the first part. And the tone was perhaps more combative than recommended by the manufacturer - might not be surprised if thine lifemate chooses to, verbally speaking, strap it on. (Or not.) But still always great to hear your voice unfiltered.

Nicole and Karen: Interesting to hear that Oxford in England is a home to a majority-female boardgaming population. My immediate response, however, is to say that most of the men in that town are probably playing Games Workshop games. While these too are technically "boardgames", I suspect that's not what your respondent was referring to. And while Warhammer 40K is probably a lot less friendly to consider approaching than Pandemic or Puerto Rico.

Oh, and not so old-fashioned to live separately until marriage - my wife and I did it too.

Kudos to both of you for pointing out something I missed - that I am playing an MMO. (I'm crediting you rather than the boys for this, as I think you treated the subject more seriously.) I've more or less moved on from Vampire Wars to Mafia Wars, but I didn't even really *feel* like either was an MMO, because of the text interface and the limits on energy vs. missions. BUt yes, I *am* online with many many people playing the same game. The critical differences here between these games (which I like) and WoW and other subscription MMOs are A) the ones I like not only don't encourage staying on 24-7, but actually limit your play time, and B) there's really no raid or instance structure - you never have to worry about when you're online, because the other players you know only assist you passively. In terms of play action, you're always soloing.

And to refer to Raef's earlier question on what the hook is - it's the same hook as most MMOs. It's RPG stat crack, combined with the abilities to complete quests and talk about the game with your friends. It's just a smaller MMO paradigm, but it's still there.

Raef: You're saying "I don't get it" more often than usual this show. Are you using that to put exposition in context - or did you strap it on in the wrong place?

All: While I don't play WM, I can appreciate thoughtful analysis on any gaming topic. The review of the WM-M2 design was obviously the digested intelligence of experienced and thoughtful players. Very interesting.

Great show, gentlemen and ladies - I continue to eagerly await that next episode.

   
 
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