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So without using forgeworld what are the coolest, nastiest things you can come up with? Eldrad fortuning TH/SS Terminators, things like that.

the triple hodgson is pretty broke.

other things i can think of from APOC games ive played in:

- "free" shots from baneblades at incomming deepstrikers via the all to common inq + 2 mystics 32 point combo.

- using the waaaagh asset with ghazzie on the board, 24 inch move anyone?

- reinforcements on your named greater daemon

- flank march (in general)

to name a few

What is a triple Hogsdon?

LOL at baneblades and mystics.

PanamaG wrote:What is a triple Hogsdon?

LOL at baneblades and mystics.

Its Lashing units into a vortex grenade template.

One nasty combo is adding Mad Dok Grosnik to the Green tide, Big Mek with Kustom Force Field in a Stompa for a huge bubble of coversaves, Flyer of Fury tactic, Reaver titan.

Fielding an Imperator Titan.

thehod wrote:

Its Lashing units into a vortex grenade template.

Oh yeah I have seen this in a batrep somewhere, forgot what it was called. That is a good idea. Too bad lash doesnt work on vehicles, lash reavers into vortex nades.

lol becuase lash isnt amazing enough as it is

"Flank March". No question. This asset is the only one that has been effectively banned in our local Apocalypse community. Once a game effectively ended by turn 2 with the arrival of 10 Leman Russ + 1 Baneblade at the opposing teams rear and blasting everything to hell. This might be funny once, but thats about it.

A-P wrote: "Flank March". No question. This asset is the only one that has been effectively banned in our local Apocalypse community. Once a game effectively ended by turn 2 with the arrival of 10 Leman Russ + 1 Baneblade at the opposing teams rear and blasting everything to hell. This might be funny once, but thats about it.

This, Flank March is banned at our store too, it's just such a dick thing to do, almost as bad as Jammers (also banned), "Yeah you can't talk to each other, or jesture to each other until the game starts"....this is a Strategic Asset, seriously?

I don't know, I have a LOT of fun with deep striking Carnifexes. There are few problems it can't solve.

Mattlov wrote:I don't know, I have a LOT of fun with deep striking Carnifexes. There are few problems it can't solve.

What About Carnifex's in a Battlewagon?

PanamaG wrote:

thehod wrote:

Its Lashing units into a vortex grenade template.

Oh yeah I have seen this in a batrep somewhere, forgot what it was called. That is a good idea. Too bad lash doesnt work on vehicles, lash reavers into vortex nades.

Lash actually does work on vehicles. Any 'Unit' can be Lashed. Since vehicles are units...you get the idea. This can mean that you can make a vehicle pivot or Tank Shock it's own team. You can turn it around for your Oblits and their Lascannons

I'm not so sure that it works on Titan units. Make a Stompa stomp da Green Tide LOL.

Nofasse 'Eadhunta wrote:Lash actually does work on vehicles. Any 'Unit' can be Lashed. Since vehicles are units...you get the idea. This can mean that you can make a vehicle pivot or Tank Shock it's own team. You can turn it around for your Oblits and their Lascannons

I'm not so sure that it works on Titan units. Make a Stompa stomp da Green Tide LOL.

Oh gee, why didn't we think of that! All those silly Chaos Players running dual lash are such idiots.

Oh wait, perhaps because the rules for Lash state a "Non-Vehicle Unit", huh?

Eight Ball wrote:

A-P wrote: "Flank March". No question. This asset is the only one that has been effectively banned in our local Apocalypse community. Once a game effectively ended by turn 2 with the arrival of 10 Leman Russ + 1 Baneblade at the opposing teams rear and blasting everything to hell. This might be funny once, but thats about it.

This, Flank March is banned at our store too, it's just such a dick thing to do, almost as bad as Jammers (also banned), "Yeah you can't talk to each other, or jesture to each other until the game starts"....this is a Strategic Asset, seriously?

Seriously? Flank March is that bad? Man in our games I almost wish it was never made because it _sucks_so_hard_. Seriously. Let a player bring a Disruption beacon. Double it up with a data sheet that brings more than one. And watch as your opponents Flank March becomes completely useless.
The game devolves into this..
"I come in on this table edge"
"I rolled a 4"
"oh... Q.Q"

But you shouldn't have to bring another asset to counter an already broken asset.

Flank March is banned in our group except for formations that have Flank March native to their rules (as you pay for that).

H.B.M.C. wrote:But you shouldn't have to bring another asset to counter an already broken asset.

Flank March is banned in our group except for formations that have Flank March native to their rules (as you pay for that).

We've done one Apoc Game at our store and the Store Owner (being TFG... Well, if you think I am TFG, take 6 of me and that's him) took jammers, of course, and Flank March. Spent 20 mins trying to say he could flank march with everyones models, which I, being the GM for the day, told him no.

He then goes on to whine and insist he gets 2 Vortex Grenades because we has a Superheavy and they Didn't.

Eventually it got to the point of him being such a Jackass I told him off, and he banned me from the store :(

I've always wondered whether bringing 250 Bio-Acid mines in individual units to large game (20K+ per side) would be a good idea. Spam them all over an objective or deployment zone.

PanamaG wrote:

thehod wrote:

Its Lashing units into a vortex grenade template.

Oh yeah I have seen this in a batrep somewhere, forgot what it was called. That is a good idea. Too bad lash doesnt work on vehicles, lash reavers into vortex nades.

Legitimate question here. Lash doesn't work on vehicles. Does that mean my bio-titans are susceptible too it?

*imagines a poor unsuspecting hierophant being tempted into oblivion by the grip of slaanesh*



Edit: Taking one Meiotic Spore Mine for every squad you take. I remember there being something about half your forces coming in on turn two. If half is spore mines, that means the fun half of your army comes in from DS turn two. As a result they spend a whole turn shooting at people who aren't you and you spend a turn deepstriking across the board far further than you could have moved in the first place.

Biotitans are immune because all Gargantuan Creatures and Titans are immune to psychic powers.

H.B.M.C. wrote:Biotitans are immune because all Gargantuan Creatures and Titans are immune to psychic powers.

*sigh of relief* thanks for the info, I'm miles away from my gaming group's apoc book to check.

Flank march is not bad if there if it gets predicted ie somebody takes ambush.

I really never would bring broken units to an apocalypse game because is exactly what apocalypse is not about.

The rules of apocalypse are broken as is (superheavy-flyers for example... what the f).

the stupidest thing you could do, that would be very cheesy, and no one would like you, would be something like this. Open the daemon Hunters Codex, purchase 10,000 orbital bombardments. This is your army. Your opponents now get extra assets. You do not care, since all you have is orbital bombardment. You then attack with 10,000 orbital bombardments, and you kill everything your opponent has. Game over.

And as I pointed out, they don't work in Apoc, because you do not use the Reserves rule.

Next!

Stormblade + 20 transported Oblits.

extrenm(54) wrote:the stupidest thing you could do, that would be very cheesy, and no one would like you, would be something like this. Open the daemon Hunters Codex, purchase 10,000 orbital bombardments. This is your army. Your opponents now get extra assets. You do not care, since all you have is orbital bombardment. You then attack with 10,000 orbital bombardments, and you kill everything your opponent has. Game over.

how many points are an orbital bombardment exactly?

First of all, just because they come in on reserves doesn't make them uneligible (however you spell it). Half of them just start striking on the second turn, then the rest start firing on the third.

Cheesiest thing to do with assets that I have done is:
Take the 'reinforcement' and 'vortex grenade' assets
Take Yarrik's baneblade, give him the vortex grenade and reinforcements.

Charge the baneblade forward until it dies, then yarrik gets out and throws the grenade. as soon as he dies, you get another baneblade, another yarrik, and another vortex grenade!

What now? I just threw two baneblades and two vortex grenades... bye.

Use Creed to outflank some titans.

I win.

:Throws 2 vortex grenades on your titans in addition to his tank company:

oh, my bad. you got a lil too close and i started avoiding your voidshields. outflanking sucks with titans.

Okay, so your first turn you don't shoot with any titans, so i get a turn not worrying about them and concentrate on the next biggest threat and blow it.
second they walk on and do some killy killy then whatever flank you just outflanked utterly destroys your titan, ignoring its voidshields, best you can hope for is an apocolyptic explosion.

Unless you plan on outlanking the entire army, you are giving yourself the handicap of daemons for 1 turn of destruction, and wasting that $500 model

I haven't had a problem countering out-flanking armies just by using smart deployment and smart objective placement.

Make sure that you are playing on an appropriate sized table.

And make sure you carefully read jammers before you ban it. It is very specific about what actual phase of the deployment it is functional for.