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Nope, since chaplain HQs are the lamest and underpowered things after grots on the tabletop I guess she´d go quite mad if you made a chappy out of her

Now Pyriel-, be nice. Some of us have chaplain figures we like & want to have painted nicely.... even if they aren't the most useful thing on the battlefield.

Well, considering I was going to name my chaplain after my gf, I think she may be offended by it then if the chaplain is going to be crap character! I may see how he fares in battle and name him after someone not as cool then! or if he kicks butt then cool friend name it is! :-) and you're right Kristy is kinda girly for a chappie isn't it! lol

And I think that was Pyriel being nice? wasn't it? :-)

Nerdfest09

Look at the flag... then the comment. Flag, comment. Flag, comment. It all makes perfect sense in context. :-)

Now I have a small question for you all, I am putting together my landspeeders and am still unsure about the paint scheme for them, I want you opinions please as to which parts to paint red and which to leave black? I was looking at my old Raven Guard speeder here: http://www.dakkadakka.com/gallery/128779-raven%20guard%20land%20speeder.html to try and see what I should do, should I paint the front bumper bit red as well as the two side fins at the rear and the top wing? or just the front bumper and two side wings? keeping in mind the marines red arms will add more of the colour too, so how should i do it everyone?

talk to you soon

Nerdfest09

Forget the speeders... I really like your drop pod! Well done my friend!

OK back on topic. Actually I'm glad you're pondering this as I have 3 land speeders to paint/re-paint myself as well as two LS storms... so the question about how do deal with them artistically is quite pertinent.

Your all-black speeder looks great. But I think part of that is a product of the fact that your weathering is so good it's not really all black anymore. The scrapes and dings and grey-to-black shading give it a much more dynamic look than if it was a more traditional solid black with edge highlights. It's also a lot more realistic.

I'd suggest leaving the bumper as is (or painting the new one like your old) as it really compliments the black well and is convincing as a realistic treatment for something that is essentially indented to get dinged up. For red... I like the recesses in the nose, the to of the spoiler and perhaps all or part of the side wings.

On the other hand, it might look cool to leave the wings black and do the nose recesses, the top of the air scoop and the top of the spoiler red, so your color was concentrated down the main body of the vehicle.

Or one last possibility: nose indentations, cabin brace (thing in center) and air scoop (top and back). Then perhaps doing only the tips of the side wings in red to accentuate the design. I think I like this one best.

Hmmm points to ponder thanks Gits, I also like the idea of the third option, problem is i'm trying to keep all my vehicles in the same vein as the chapter scheme with black bodies and the sides in the red colour, hence my rhino's and raider :-) BUT, seeing as these are totally different styles of fighting vehicle for them I think i can play around a bit, so you like the bumper bar thing like the original one, if go that route lets hope i can remember how to paint it! I know i can pretty much replicate the body as it's the same method i use on all my black, it's just the additional parts i'm having trouble deciding on, i even contemplated just painting the entire back half from behind the marines red and leaving the front black? good thing is, I have 2 of them to play with :-)
and I'm glad you like my drop pod too! I'm ordering another one for this army soon and i'm stuck in a similar dilemma! do i paint the doors red or the vanes in betwen to match the chapter scheme? if only there was a landspeeder and drop pod painter program! lol

cheers Gits!

Nerdfest09

Yeah, that would be nice. I believe I've seen pods done black with red on the insets on the veins (like I did the yellow on mine) and it's looks really nice. Your black is so good it's hard to play it down. Do you mind telling me how you do it? I have a certain black-based special project coming down the road and I'm casting about for good approaches to the color. I like yours & would be interested in your methods.

If you've already described it somewhere... a link to the post would be greatly appreciated.

Cheers mate! it'll be great no matter what you decide... your skills are top notch!

And I think that was Pyriel being nice? wasn't it? :-)

You should see me when I´m not being nice

Chappies really only come to their use in BA and BT lists and even then only in a very rare builds with specific units. Sorry but this is how GW made them, dont shoot the messenger.



The speeder needs some secondary colour, I would add light grey in smaller areas to complement the black.

Hey Pyriel, thanks dude! I don't think i'll annoy you as much to see you not being nice! well, i'll try anyway or you can only msg me when you're happy? how about that? sounds good to me! :-) lol

Chaplains are crappy then :-( oh well, at least he'll be fun to paint, i'll still just throw him into the mix running with a squad of assault termies and see what happens, i think he give a re roll for 'to hit'? and whatever happens he'll look imposing getting nailed on the field :-)

Speeder quandry: you think light gray somewhere would also help? do you mean panels or additions such as edges and highlights?

@Gits: i'll send you a pm with my black recipe when i get up tomorrow/today (whatever shift worker time is) you'll read it and just go "what! that's it? noooo too easy!" and i hope I explain it correctly so feel free to ask me to explain or send pics! :-)

Nerdfest09

Thanks nf! Too easy is always welcome.

Unfortunately Pyriel is right... making chappies a better value than other VSM HQs is not easy. In a fun game it doesn't matter of course, but if you're trying to be competitive... it might be a tough sell.

Nope, not competitive, always thought i'd only play for fun with friends :-) mind you I re counted and when i play this will only be my 3rd game! i'm trying to learn how to play...it's along road...and a slow one! lol

Maybe red on the nose indents and the dividing roll bar thing? Or give it some racing stripes (not kidding). One thick on up the driver side one the first, a think on and thin one on the 2nd, Medium, thin, and thick for the third. Might be cool?

Racing stripes! oh now you've got me thinking! that would actually look cool as! just stripes and the little wings red could work i'm actually assembling them as we speak and i think once i've primed them and can have an actual look at them i'll make my decisions? and it's a tough one! I like the stripes idea and also gits suggestions too it just depends on how it all fits ith the rest of the guys, should hopefuly have some more idea today or tomorrow if I can get some good solid painting time in today and friday (yes Gits it's now thursday morning here in Tasmania and it's 4:40am) but i've got a special salamander to paint first! he's realy got me inspired at the moment, my method's looking o.k and now i need to stretch my limited skills to see if i can finish something quite nice!


Nerdfest09

Fantastic! Can't wait to see him!

So, it looks like you're 15 hours ahead of us. Hmmm.

I'll try and paint him today but he'll definitely be done by next week, as i'm too keen and looking forward to painting him, I was inspired by Pyriel's salamanders and the style of the massive voodoo terminator so I concocted my own way of doing it, lets see if it gets a good rap or needs tweaking! :-)

Well, you have "the master" looking on... I'm sure he'll let you know how you're doing. ;-)

Hmmm by 'the master' I take it you're talking about the one and only Pyriel? the man with green paint running through his veins, the man with sculpting tools instead of appendages, the man with brushes instead of fingers, the man with bionic eyes and a heart of steel (although I believe it's soft inside?) is that the master of which you speak?......I better honor him well then! :-)

nerdfest09 wrote:... the man with sculpting tools instead of appendages, the man with brushes instead of fingers...

Wouldnt the brushes get in the way of the....never mind.

Lol, let's ask him then!......Oh pyriellllll..... :-)

Hey,
Just read through your blog and lov-ing-your-work, sir. Transitions on your reds, treatment of flesh tones, approach to black - fascinating and most impressive.

Speeder quandry: you think light gray somewhere would also help? do you mean panels or additions such as edges and highlights?

Panels on the front plate and maybe rudders on the alerions-thingies.

So, it looks like you're 15 hours ahead of us. Hmmm.

Oh, nerdfest09´s steam-aged village needs all the hours ahead it can get lol

But then again look who´s speaking, the guy who lives in freaking goblinburg...

I'll try and paint him today but he'll definitely be done by next week, as i'm too keen and looking forward to painting him, I was inspired by Pyriel's salamanders and the style of the massive voodoo terminator so I concocted my own way of doing it, lets see if it gets a good rap or needs tweaking! :-)

I like the look of his terminators, that´s going to be one really exciting thing to look forward seeing.

and a heart of steel (although I believe it's soft inside?)

It´s called mercury.
Even I cant be all obnoxious all the time.

Lol, let's ask him then!......Oh pyriellllll..... :-)

What!

Next week after the ridiculous work stress that I have voluenteered to put myself through this month I´m planning on starting my step by step GK paint tutorial.
That´s gonna be a nice piece of therapy after this s****y months work that ruined all my sleep/workout/eating/life rythm.

You guys see to that I´ll do it though.

@ inmygravenimage: Thank you, i'm glad you like what i've done so far! I like nice looking models but as I get very easily dejected with my painting and how long it takes, so now i've taken it upon myself to find methods I can use that look good on the table and are bloody quick to do, I try and only use 2 highlights washes etc.. except my faces and trickier things, I don't think i've done badly considering I only started the army about 9 weeks ago and only paint for 1 day a week! :-)

@Pyriel: Righto then my friend I'll hold you to that tutorial! I want to see how you paint the nmm grey myself, it's something i'd like to try on boltguns and parts on 'special' models I paint!
I know it's tough for you but being obnoxious all the time is hard work! even for you to maintain! so take some time to relax from your gakky month of stress sit down enjoy the TimTams I send you, I give you permission not to share! :-)
And don't get me started on 'Goblinburg' or i'll bring up the flower garden and penguins again! :-)


well i've been busy too an update is nigh.....

Nerdfest09


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Hail all those who wish of an update! I shall quench your thirst albeit with a small number of pics! I have been working on the salamander for Pyriel and gotten a fair way through painting him, I chose a darker theme to his armour as it's just what i prefer painting, firstly I undercoated him black, then gave him a shot of white from above to show me where I can shade and highlight, I then mixed chaos black and ork flesh together very thinly and painted this over all the original black areas to guide my highlights and colours, I then proceeded to use pure ork flesh and then mixed snot green and then pure snot green then snot green and a touch of golden yellow to highlight, all this i did with very thin washes of the colour and built it up slowly, this is something i've not done before but although time consuming it was easy to do and looks pretty nice, I wish (as usual) the photo's did it justice, I need to still do some more highlights and touch ups but he should be done tomorrow comments if you like, critisism if you must





I'm still working on the flame but thought i'd show you where i'm at with it!

I started working on my Chaplain and dreadnought, just a quick prime and burst of white for them although i did do a bit on the chappies helmet which looks ace!



I painted more of my assault squad today too! just finished one of the faces i'm happy with, suits the model I think!



And lastly for today a group shot of the army! as you'd expect it's not the best pic but you can get an idea of how far i've come in the last 9 or so weeks since i started this project! now I look at it I want to do an entire 4th company of Marines Exemplar!


There we go my friends! I hope it's been a good update for you all! I know i;ve enjoyed it
more soon! I promise.


Nerdfest09

This is an awesome blog everything here is very well painted and converted. I am sorry for asking this as you posted this a couple pages ago, but where did you get that shoulder pad on the librarian from? Is it all plastic?

G'day Flying Pooo, That shoulder pad is metal one from Chapterhouse studios it's in the Exorcists pads bit, I did cut the rim addition off it though but that was easy with nail clippers, other than that the while thing is plastic cut and paste converted :-)

Nerdfest09

Looking good! Are you waiting on the termie PW for your chaplain or is it for something else?

Hey LDP, I was going to use it for my chaplain but I think I may use it for something else now :-) I found something else more suitable, namely the chaos terminator lord arm holding the staff! but the DA arm will probably go to my other termi squad when i get them :-) more damn work!

Nerdfest09

Oh it's a hard life innit?!

Wow, that salamander looks awesome, way better then I expected. What secondary colours on things like armour edges etc are you planning to use?

Also, what colours do you use on those bleak faces (that assault marine).

I know it's tough for you but being obnoxious all the time is hard work! even for you to maintain! so take some time to relax from your gakky month of stress sit down enjoy the TimTams I send you, I give you permission not to share! :-)
And don't get me started on 'Goblinburg' or i'll bring up the flower garden and penguins again! :-)

Nobody understands me, its tough being obnoxious, just ask Ph3ar, the current leader of dakkas obnoxious-league lol.

The TimTams will be great but sadly, given the time it will take them to get here from your steam powered village and donkey-driven snailmail services they will most probably arrive petrified from old age.
Not that it will stop me consuming them though...

Dont worry, when I send you my super wafers I´ll be specific about the route of delivery, they dont exactly drown in wooden sail ships over in Czech-land but I ought to be able to find some sort of land based mail caravan through afghanistan to entrust them with.

And are we talking regular penguins or the eh, stolen ones?

Or lost penguins... Sally looks great btw, and love the chapterhouse chaplain head.