gungo wrote:
There are several threads debating the issue in the rules forum so it's hardly a strange interpretation but the argument I've seen rests on the fact flickerjump is a warpjump and warpjump is pretty clear that it is only once a player turn.

The counter argument is that flickerjump doesn't state once a turn but then you have one unclear rule and one clear rule. I'm on the east coast and every event I've played at it is once a turn. Of course most of those events use the nova rules which also limit flickerjump to once a turn.

 disdainful wrote:
Casey's memory is fuzzy (but there's a con full of beers between that game and now! )
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and drink scotch, Casey yelled and bawled... kinda the perfect weekend.

 jy2 wrote:
Different strokes for different folks.

Each tournament has its own perspective on how the game is played. Clearly, the ITC rules are somewhat more conservative than the Nova rules in some areas (certain rules intepretations) while more progressive in other areas (the allowance of unlimited Forgeworld, Lord of Wars SH/GC's allowed).

My viewpoint is that the ITC rulings tend to be more conservative in general than Nova's or Europe rulings.

chipstar1 wrote:

gungo wrote:
There are several threads debating the issue in the rules forum so it's hardly a strange interpretation but the argument I've seen rests on the fact flickerjump is a warpjump and warpjump is pretty clear that it is only once a player turn.

The counter argument is that flickerjump doesn't state once a turn but then you have one unclear rule and one clear rule. I'm on the east coast and every event I've played at it is once a turn. Of course most of those events use the nova rules which also limit flickerjump to once a turn.

Hi, I'm Chip. I wrote the NOVA FAQ. We most certainly do not limit flicker jumps to a single jump per turn.

chipstar1 wrote:

 jy2 wrote:
Different strokes for different folks.

Each tournament has its own perspective on how the game is played. Clearly, the ITC rules are somewhat more conservative than the Nova rules in some areas (certain rules intepretations) while more progressive in other areas (the allowance of unlimited Forgeworld, Lord of Wars SH/GC's allowed).

My viewpoint is that the ITC rulings tend to be more conservative in general than Nova's or Europe rulings.

Definitely Jim. Just don't know why this guy thinks the NOVA format is x when that's not the case.

gungo wrote:
Range d can use the str 10 rule back but I'm confused which deathstar is surviving range d hits? They still ignore fnp and reanimation protocol. They still do multiple wounds on single targets and they still ignore invuls on a 6. I fail to see how the rulebook range d is much more effective vs infantry. As most infantry have 1 wound or at best 2 wounds. Only a handful of non monsterous creature and special units have 3 or more wounds.

The nerf to range str d really only limits range str d from annihilating vehicles with any single hit infantry which most death stars are see very little change other then the str10 change which I agree needs to be reverted.

Single shot range d is still the best counter for high priority hard to kill single targets in game. It obviously doesnt do well. VS swarms But that's where eldar dscythe with templates do much better.

gungo wrote:
There are several threads debating the issue in the rules forum so it's hardly a strange interpretation but the argument I've seen rests on the fact flickerjump is a warpjump and warpjump is pretty clear that it is only once a player turn.

The counter argument is that flickerjump doesn't state once a turn but then you have one unclear rule and one clear rule. I'm on the east coast and every event I've played at it is once a turn. Of course most of those events use the nova rules which also limit flickerjump to once a turn.

DarthDiggler wrote:
I was under the impression that the 6 on the D table was nerfed because it is unfair to have guys just pick up models because of a lucky roll? On the other hand I just played in a tourney yesterday where the D Thirster was rampaging around with invisibility and the Grimoire on it. How is that supposed to be stopped without the str D 6 removing the model? It decimated the Necron player and then was killed in the next game by a Knight stomp rolling the 6. There is really no other way for most armies to stop something like that on the tabletop.

 Brothererekose wrote:
This is meant to be totally nice, no malice:

gungo, mercury14, how about starting a tourney thread on this? Something like, "Looking at nerfing D-wep for the tourney scene" ? "Re-Examining GT adjustments."

Or some such?

I did some of the MathHammer on D-weps here:

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/647186.page

And then this thread can stay on BAO specific things, like the event, how it went, etc. Can Round 1 Challenges be worked into the pairing software for LVO and next year? Where was the masseuse from last year?