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 Manfred von Drakken wrote:

Klickor wrote:
...but it's not like piracy is a black and white subject.

Actually, yes. Yes, it is.

Again, no it is not, just like microsoft has insofar a Monopoly and should get whacked with anti trust laws so does GW thanks to the IP right lobbying of Disney and consorts.

It is by far not as black and white as you proclaim it is.
And just like with theft beeing itself possibly within a grey area, hence why f.e. someone stealing food whilest starving will get lower sentences f.e.

In this particular case, yes, it is. Regardless of your opinions of the company producing a product, 'I don't want to pay for it' is not a valid justification for just taking it without paying for it.


Since it seems a reminder is due - Dakka does not and can not endorse copyright infringement. Please drop the piracy discussion.

It’s not that I don’t Want to pay GW for my codex PDFs, it’s that they stopped selling them so I’m no longer able to get those thru them.

Where do we give feedback to GW for problems we run into when using the app for building lists...

I am having lots of problems as a chaos player, and I rather raise the issues up to them now before they make this app mandatory and then I will take 3 hours to make one single CSM in future because of how borky it is for CSM...

 AduroT wrote:
It’s not that I don’t Want to pay GW for my codex PDFs, it’s that they stopped selling them so I’m no longer able to get those thru them.

As a workaround, it is rather easy to remove the binding of GW's hardcover books, which allows you to scan them in very neatly and create a PDF yourself. That's what I did for the FW book, as I'm for sure not going to lug around that brick for the 2-3 datasheets I need per game.

Eldenfirefly wrote:
Where do we give feedback to GW for problems we run into when using the app for building lists...

I am having lots of problems as a chaos player, and I rather raise the issues up to them now before they make this app mandatory and then I will take 3 hours to make one single CSM in future because of how borky it is for CSM...

You can do that over at https://www.surveymonkey.com/r/FPBZ89Y

 Jidmah wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
It’s not that I don’t Want to pay GW for my codex PDFs, it’s that they stopped selling them so I’m no longer able to get those thru them.

As a workaround, it is rather easy to remove the binding of GW's hardcover books, which allows you to scan them in very neatly and create a PDF yourself. That's what I did for the FW book, as I'm for sure not going to lug around that brick for the 2-3 datasheets I need per game.

That's not a workaround, that's ruining a $40 book so that you can have scanned images on your electronic device. I can't exactly bind my codex back together after I take it apart.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
It’s not that I don’t Want to pay GW for my codex PDFs, it’s that they stopped selling them so I’m no longer able to get those thru them.

As a workaround, it is rather easy to remove the binding of GW's hardcover books, which allows you to scan them in very neatly and create a PDF yourself. That's what I did for the FW book, as I'm for sure not going to lug around that brick for the 2-3 datasheets I need per game.

That's not a workaround, that's ruining a $40 book so that you can have scanned images on your electronic device. I can't exactly bind my codex back together after I take it apart.

Plus weren't the digital versions cheaper?

The digital versions were indeed cheaper, and GW still sells them for their other games besides 40k.

 Mr. Grey wrote:

 Jidmah wrote:

 AduroT wrote:
It’s not that I don’t Want to pay GW for my codex PDFs, it’s that they stopped selling them so I’m no longer able to get those thru them.

As a workaround, it is rather easy to remove the binding of GW's hardcover books, which allows you to scan them in very neatly and create a PDF yourself. That's what I did for the FW book, as I'm for sure not going to lug around that brick for the 2-3 datasheets I need per game.

That's not a workaround, that's ruining a $40 book so that you can have scanned images on your electronic device. I can't exactly bind my codex back together after I take it apart.

Yes, that's what a workaround is - a less optimal solution to a problem.

I am mostly happy with with using the app with just the digital code from my codex as reference. There's good value in that. The app is far from optimal for that use, but its clunkiness that's inherent in the codicx as well. I'm much happier with this setup than my digital Battletomes for AoS.

I’d be more ok with the app if it actually included all the codex rules and didn’t leave a bunch out.

 Albertorius wrote:

stratigo wrote:
The actual merits of such cases are not as important as a large company having outsized power to force compliance by virtue of size and the expense of court cases. The reason GW doesn't DMCA battlescribe is either they are too incompetent to, or they don't want to. I lean on the second because, honestly, GW knows where their bread is buttered.

There might be another reason: because, unlike the USA, in UK/EU law, the winner of a lawsuit gets their attorneys fees back, effectively as damages, against the party that lost the lawsuit, which makes it far more risky to issue any kind of frivolous lawsuit over here.

A large corporation has a lot of power to shop around, and since a lot of the infrastructure uses the US, they probably could sue through the US.

stratigo wrote:
A large corporation has a lot of power to shop around, and since a lot of the infrastructure uses the US, they probably could sue through the US.

Unless they're trying to sue something that HQs within the US of A, that's a non-starter. You usually can't sue outside of the defendant's country.

We should probably get back to discussing Battle Forge or the thread will just get locked. I wonder if we are likely to see any more updates over the festive period (thinking most likely the period between Christmas and new year)?

Necronmaniac05 wrote:
We should probably get back to discussing Battle Forge or the thread will just get locked. I wonder if we are likely to see any more updates over the festive period (thinking most likely the period between Christmas and new year)?

One would hope, or their free month of beta will expire without them having worked out the bugs.

but as long as you play 9th Editon 40k and buy models to do so, GW won't get the message

because GW cannot see the difference between
their product sucks but people still play it
and people not having the money to pay for it but because it is such a great product they want to get it anyway

 kodos wrote:
but as long as you play 9th Editon 40k and buy models to do so, GW won't get the message

because GW cannot see the difference between
their product sucks but people still play it
and people not having the money to pay for it but because it is such a great product they want to get it anyway

I've already made a pledge to get all my models, new or used, secondhand until they can get their act together. People here accept mediocrity as the greatest thing ever.

https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/06/warhammer-40000-the-apps-new-update-offers-more-features-than-ever-for-less/

It seems GW has been listening. The 40K App is going down to £1.99 a month.

You have to cancel on the website right?
It wouldn’t even load when I tried, just spinning in a ‘load screen’

"Among the many changes and tweaks is a new lower price. For just £1.99 a month you’ll get access to the same premium app features as before, plus all of the new goodies being added as development continues.

That includes the aforementioned support for Crusade campaigns, plus a few fantastic things that we can’t quite talk about just yet. "

Still sounds like more pay us now and it will become worth it eventualy we promise..

However. at £24 a year I am actualy tempted to give it a go.

Doe sit now contain rules for DA with ot without codex? The blurb implies you get the new DA rules.

Also, important extra, the win your free army thing is now a monthly competition, drawn the first of the month.


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 Argive wrote:
"Among the many changes and tweaks is a new lower price. For just £1.99 a month you’ll get access to the same premium app features as before, plus all of the new goodies being added as development continues.

That includes the aforementioned support for Crusade campaigns, plus a few fantastic things that we can’t quite talk about just yet. "

Still sounds like more pay us now and it will become worth it eventualy we promise..

However. at £24 a year I am actualy tempted to give it a go.

Doe sit now contain rules for DA with ot without codex? The blurb implies you get the new DA rules.

I read it as, they are updated in the app now, should you have the prerequisite.

Did they ever get around to saying how you were meant to share the army list you'd put together on Twitter?

 alextroy wrote:
https://www.warhammer-community.com/2021/02/06/warhammer-40000-the-apps-new-update-offers-more-features-than-ever-for-less/

It seems GW has been listening. The 40K App is going down to £1.99 a month.

Wonder how long that'll last.

Quite clever actually, get people to give it a try at half of the price and then in six months to a year crank it back it up £4 (or whatever it was) but by that point people will have 'settled' into it and be more reluctant to stop subscribing.

 Dysartes wrote:
Did they ever get around to saying how you were meant to share the army list you'd put together on Twitter?

Screenshot it. You can also email to them too instead of/ as well as posting on twitter.

$2 isn't....horrible at least?

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
$2 isn't....horrible at least?

...if it works properly now...

Danny76 wrote:You have to cancel on the website right?
It wouldn’t even load when I tried, just spinning in a ‘load screen’

If you’re on iOS you can also cancel by just asking for a refund thru Apple right away after you get a charge. Was how I did it.

Slayer-Fan123 wrote:$2 isn't....horrible at least?

It’s £2, not $2. I’m betting it’ll be $2.99 for Americans.

I find £1.99 a whole lot more appealing than £4.99 (or was it 3.99)? At this price I'm willing to check it out. Is it still the case that a MyWarhammer account and regular GW account are two separate entities that cannot be merged in any way?

I have been paying for the app, as I like having access to the rules for all the 8th edition stuff, and the army builder works for my armies quite well. lower price makes it even more appealing to me.

Us3Less wrote:
I find £1.99 a whole lot more appealing than £4.99 (or was it 3.99)? At this price I'm willing to check it out. Is it still the case that a MyWarhammer account and regular GW account are two separate entities that cannot be merged in any way?

Yes.