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So im just getting back into 40k after about a 5 year break and i am starting an Ork army because they make me laugh. (do i really need a better reason?)

I want to make a shooty horde army, lots n lots of shoota boyz and Lootaz as the core units

im currently debating the following things

1. Big Mek with KFF to help out my units with that awesome +4 Cover save OR give him a SAG for kicks and giggles and have the chance to drop some templates around.

2. Should i give my Lootaz transport or should i just camp them back preferably up in a tower with some cover?

3. Not sure what other units will compliment my shootaz and lootaz....was thinking stormboyz with Zagstrukk for deep strike or Snikrot woth Kommandos could do some work too.

Any advice is welcome please give me a hand!

1. Shokk Attack is more fun! You can use Grots to help protect your Lootas and Shokk Attack.

2. Lootaz shoot so damned far they don't need transport. Give it to your Burnas if you use any. They are all able to fire out of the Open Top vehicles. Just think of all those templates coming out of one spot. Hee, hee, such fun

3. Stormboyz are more fun, this choice (I feel) is really dependent on whether you want to take up an Elite spot or a Fast Attack spot. If you're going for fun and crazy (Not to mention all those Lootas), Stormboyz are for you, me thinks!

Hey there.

Welcome back. My advice: Go to the army list section of the boards. Dozens of folks just like me have written pages and pages of advice on various army lists, including shooty foot-slogging horde armies.

Few things for your specific questions:

1. KFF gives a 5+ cover save for units on the ground. Not worth it; you can drop guys into ruins/forest/anything anyway and get a 4+ cover save.

2. Lootas should either be in previously mentioned cover for a 4+ save, or in a battlewagon enjoying AV14 protection. For maximum effectiveness, 3 squads of lootas, in 3 battlewagons, with a mek+KFF giving the battlewagons 4+ cover saves will give you a good base of an army.

3. SAG fits well into a shooty army. Attach him to Lootas and stick him in a battlewagon.

4. Aside from your core shooting base of lootas and battlewagons, you just start plopping in 30 man shoota boy squads with a nob and a powerklaw.

5. Want to keep your foot-slogging shoota boyz alive? Take a squad of 29 gretchin + 2 runtherders along, and spread them along your front lines in front of your advancing shoota boyz. They'll grant 4+ cover to the rest of your foot slogging army.

If you're out for a fun and unique Ork army for use in friendly games you certainly have the right attitude and are moving in the right direction. Hopefully we'll see pictures!

A weirdboy would be a good addition to a shooty army.

Zzap and frazzle give you shooting power, 'ere we go can get your boys out of combat with a superior enemy unit, or put them in a more advantageous position for shooting.
Warpath and Waagh won't help a whole lot, unless getting into CC is a good idea (say, against guard)

Consider some big gunz sitting in the back with your lootas

Also consider some warbikers or deffkoptas.

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/236024.page <

There was a ratio of SAG to KFF & the SAG won hands down.. it may not be an amazingly effective weapon somtimes but it sure can be the most lethal weapon in the game.

I would also like to note that I think in most armies, definetly orkish, there is a place for a counter-charge type assault unit & ive included that within the kommandoz.

Anyways, hope that gives you a few ideas.