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Et In Arcadia Ego





Canterbury

the nukeometer

hmm.. so I can be killed by 7728 warheads,

By country
2347 from USA
4568 from Russia
192 from UK
121 from China
300 from France
200 from Israel

By delivery
2690 from long range ICBMs
240 from short range missiles
2027 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines

.... I can't work out if it's good or bad that I could be hit by more nukes from France or Israel than by my own country.

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5th God of Chaos! (Yea'rly!)




The Great State of Texas

Don't forget backpack nukes
Don't forget nukes smuggled in a shipping container and set off in London harbor.

Now have a good night's sleep...

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Junior Officer with Laspistol





South Africa

I got...

2892 Nuclear warheads

By country:

500 from the USA

2079 from Russia

192 from the UK
and
121 from China

By delivery

121 from long range ICBMs
0 from both sgort rabge missles and bomber aircraft
and
2771 from nuclear submarines

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Pragmatic Primus Commanding Cult Forces






Southeastern PA, USA

There's always the chance that the radiation will give you metahuman abilities. Saw that in a comic book once...

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Barpharanges






Limbo

6404 nuclear warheads
Are within range of
New York City, United States

By country
2347 from USA
3684 from Russia
192 from UK
121 from China
60 from France

By delivery
2490 from long range ICBMs
0 from short range missiles
1143 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines

I'm kind of surprised that it's less than London, but, it sort of makes sense, I suppose.

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Canterbury

Frazzled wrote:Don't forget backpack nukes


I believe the plan is to abolish all backpacks/rucksacks and similar. Instead you'll be forced to hire human "sherpas" who will carry your goods for you. This helps both the environment and the unemployment figures.

There's always the chance that the radiation will give you metahuman abilities.


With my luck I'd be the Incredible Tumour.

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reds8n wrote:.... I can't work out if it's good or bad that I could be hit by more nukes from France


Ah well, at least you know that if the French did attack the world, even if they wiped out everyone in the first salvo, they would still lose...

   
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Nasty Nob






Joplin, Missouri

Apparently I'm either completely Nuke safe, or there are so many that I broke the calculator.

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Dogged Kum



Houston Texas

Well... since Frazzled didn't do it for our area...

By country
4130 from USA
3684 from Russia
192 from UK
121 from China

By delivery
2490 from long range ICBMs
1783 from short range missiles
1083 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines


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The Great State of Texas

I didn't do it fallen668 because, being in Houston, no one would notice. It'd only be about two degrees hotter than last week...

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Stabbin' Skarboy




Galactics Comics and Games, Georgia, USA

I got

By country
2347 from USA
3684 from Russia
192 from UK
121 from China
60 from France

By delivery
2490 from long range ICBMs
0 from short range missiles
1143 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines

So maybe I'd have a warning?
   
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Killer Klaivex







This calculator is complete fiction. Israel has never even confirmed that they had nukes, yet the guy who made this not only knows how many they have, but their exact locations and range? I think not.


 
   
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I agree, I rolled it and it says I have 200 within range from frigging France......

Yeah......
   
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United States

Ketara wrote:This calculator is complete fiction. Israel has never even confirmed that they had nukes, yet the guy who made this not only knows how many they have, but their exact locations and range? I think not.


Well, estimates place their supposed stockpile at anywhere from 200-400 warheads. We know they don't have ICBMs, so that limits the potential delivery method to cruise missiles (which they have very few of) and attack aircraft (as they don't have strategic bombers). Coincidentally both of these strike packages have about the same overall range, so it isn't really that big a shot in the dark.

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And this person also has detailed knowledge of russian launch sites? I don't know whether the American government publishes the exact patrol paths of their nuclear subs, but I'm pretty sure the MoD over here doesn't, which means that their knowledge of Trident's location and range is bull.

At best, the entire thing is little more than guesswork. At worst, the entire thing is complete fiction. So yeah, I'd say that's a pretty big shot in the dark.


 
   
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Trigger-Happy Baal Predator Pilot




Toronto (GTA), Ontario

2347 from USA
3684 from Russia
192 from UK
121 from China
60 from France
By delivery
2490 from long range ICBMs
0 from short range missiles
1143 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines

6404 in total XP

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Can you figure out the 'safest' or 'least nukes in range' site? I'm guessing Antarctica.

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Shenanigans..I say.

I tried it for my area, and also for several areas. The results were just too different to be real.

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Type in something like Columbus or Springfield, USA. According to mapquest.com, there are at least 10 Columbuses in the US (from Montana to Georgia) and at least 10 Springfields (from Washington state to Florida).

I agree with gg - Shenangians! Shenanigans, I say!

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United States

Ketara wrote:And this person also has detailed knowledge of russian launch sites?


Dude, this isn't difficult information to acquire. We live in the age civilian orbital photography. Have a look at some of this, or this.

Ketara wrote:
I don't know whether the American government publishes the exact patrol paths of their nuclear subs, but I'm pretty sure the MoD over here doesn't, which means that their knowledge of Trident's location and range is bull.


You don't need to know the precise location. The Trident II missile has a range of 11,300 km. The Earth has a circumference of about 40,000 km. Once that's out of the way all you have to do is narrow down the field of potential patrols to those regions which place the submarine in range of likely targets; meaning China, Russia, Iran, and North Korea. This limits potential site variance to the Indian Ocean, and the Northern Pacific.

Ketara wrote:
At best, the entire thing is little more than guesswork. At worst, the entire thing is complete fiction. So yeah, I'd say that's a pretty big shot in the dark.


Of course there's an element of guesswork involved. Why would you expect otherwise?

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dogma wrote:
Ketara wrote:This calculator is complete fiction. Israel has never even confirmed that they had nukes, yet the guy who made this not only knows how many they have, but their exact locations and range? I think not.


Well, estimates place their supposed stockpile at anywhere from 200-400 warheads. We know they don't have ICBMs, so that limits the potential delivery method to cruise missiles (which they have very few of) and attack aircraft (as they don't have strategic bombers). Coincidentally both of these strike packages have about the same overall range, so it isn't really that big a shot in the dark.


You say that there's an 'element' of guesswork involved. As I said, the Israeli forces have never even admitted to having any nukes, yet this thing supposedly contains the ranges of all the ones they have. You can spot all the possible silos on Google Earth that you like, and analyse as many fictitous patrol paths as you like, but the end result is the same, you guessing. It is a complete shot in the dark. There's no 'element of guesswork' the entire THING is guesswork. Pure and simple. When all your initial facts are based on fabrications, guessing, and what you think, 'might be the case', it is impossible to establish kind of accurate range generator.

To be succinct, it is all made up. It's nice to play with, but this generator has no real accuracy, established fact, or frame of reference. It is, in other words, absolute rubbish.

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Minnesota

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United States

Ketara wrote:
You say that there's an 'element' of guesswork involved. As I said, the Israeli forces have never even admitted to having any nukes, yet this thing supposedly contains the ranges of all the ones they have.


Nuclear warheads don't possess an intrinsic range; delivery platforms do. In the case of Israel this means strike aircraft (F-15E and F-16C/D), and cruise missiles. Both of these engagement methods have discreet range characteristics that are easily referenced. From there you can simply assume the minimum speculative number of Israeli nukes (which have been developed by a number of extremely reputable sources), and attach them to the delivery vehicle with the longest possible range (in this case ship-launched cruise missiles), and you have your estimate.

Ketara wrote:
You can spot all the possible silos on Google Earth that you like, and analyse as many fictitous patrol paths as you like, but the end result is the same, you guessing.


Yeah, that's right. But what you're forgetting is that even professional military analysis involves a great deal of guess work. The trick is to begin with as much confirmed data as possible, and then extrapolate from that. Its the same process physicists utilize to develop theoretical prediction, only a good deal less exact.

Ketara wrote:
It is a complete shot in the dark. There's no 'element of guesswork' the entire THING is guesswork. Pure and simple. When all your initial facts are based on fabrications, guessing, and what you think, 'might be the case', it is impossible to establish kind of accurate range generator.


Yeah, if that were the case you would be correct, but it isn't. The range of almost every nuclear delivery platform in the world can be easily researched using the internet and military reference manuals. Stationary missile bases are, for the most part, known installations. The patrol routes are guesses, but they are educated guesses based on deployed weapon ranges relative to the overall size of the planet. That's more than enough information to develop a utility of reasonable accuracy; especially given that the difference between 2,000 nukes and 3,000 nukes is functionally irrelevant.

Ketara wrote:
To be succinct, it is all made up. It's nice to play with, but this generator has no real accuracy, established fact, or frame of reference. It is, in other words, absolute rubbish.


You have a really funny definition of 'all made up', because its pretty clearly based on at least some information pertaining to effective range and national stockpiles. Is it rubbish in the context of determining strategic policy vis a vis the overall strike package of a given nation with respect to a chosen location? Yes, no military planning commission in their right mind would use this 'tool'. Is it so far off the mark that you can simply say 'this is all fiction'? No, it isn't. Its speculative, but speculation isn't the same as simply making something up.

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gorgon wrote:There's always the chance that the radiation will give you metahuman abilities. Saw that in a comic book once...

Or... shrink your penis.

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SE Michigan

garret wrote:
gorgon wrote:There's always the chance that the radiation will give you metahuman abilities. Saw that in a comic book once...

Or... shrink your penis.


No wonder there are very few superhumans with children

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Forever alone

Calculator didn't load. I think I broke it.

Maybe living in Tasmania has its benefits.

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Sword-Wielding Bloodletter of Khorne



Burnaby, British Columbia

9071 nuclear warheads Are within range of Winnipeg, Canada
By country
4130 from USA
4568 from Russia
192 from UK
121 from China
60 from France
By delivery
2490 from long range ICBMs
1783 from short range missiles
2027 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines

... Sucks to be winnipeg. Also, this one appears to be winning in the nuclear target charts.

Glad I live in vancouver with a mere 7228 warheads in range... OH SHI--

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From England. Living in Shanghai

6277 nuclear warheads are within range of Shanghai, China

By country
1264 from USA
4568 from Russia
192 from UK
176 from China
75 from India
2 from North Korea

By delivery
2567 from long range ICBMs
0 from short range missiles
939 from bomber aircraft
2771 from nuclear submarines

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The Burble

Seeing as apparently El Paso, Texas, London, England, and Kandahar, Afghanistan will be hit by EXACTLY the same number of sub-based ICBMs- yeah, I'm going to call BS on the calculator. Oh look, Groton, CT and Kings Bay, GA, get hit by the same number as Hobart, Tasmania. Riiiiight.

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