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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 09:56:35
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Lord High Inquisitor Johnson has issued an ultimatum today to the editors of party rag 'White Dwarf'.
He was appalled at not one, but two tactics articles that provided genuinely useful information on how gamers could improve their chances of winning.
Former chief scribe Cavatore, now demoted to chief bottle washer following unproven heresy charges, defended his contribution to the article (where he talked about the importance of reducing the effectiveness of enemy shooting by going full mech or all infantry), saying that he had called such tactics 'extreme' and that he was obviously implying that only members of evil ' WAAC' cults would ever employ such tactics.
However, his previous history of creditable rules writing with LotR and 7th ed WFB (which many believe has led to his current lowly status) may count against him and who knows now how long it will be before he 'disappears'.
Now, while none of the tactics were earth shattering, this flagrant attempt to improve people's skill level instead of just saying 'buy more' and 'just have fun' has raised the ire of Inquisitor Johnson, who is threatening a pogrom against the WD staff if normal service is not resumed in the next issue.
I must go now, I can hear heavy boots on the stairs...
[/sarcasm]
Seriously - is it just me or was this months WD better than it has been for ages? (Note: not good yet, but better  )
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:03:09
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Care to elaborate, I'm still waiting for mine to be delivered.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:04:13
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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A GW tactica that doesn't boil down to "Everything is equally valid and useful, especially this month's new releases!"
Colour me shocked.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:04:53
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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[DCM]
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I wish they would bring back battle reports with a map and pics for each turn, like they did for 15 years, instead of the ridiculous 1-2 turns and a double page pic of the table with dot points down the side of the pic trying to explain what is happening.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:06:04
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Shocking yes,actual helpful insight into rules and tactics from GW.Have the end times started drawing near?
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:07:55
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Killer Klaivex
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What?
Is it April 1st at GW HQ or something?
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:10:41
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Plastictrees
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I wish they would bring back battle reports with a map and pics for each turn, like they did for 15 years, instead of the ridiculous 1-2 turns and a double page pic of the table with dot points down the side of the pic trying to explain what is happening.
QFT since I absolutely agree.
I guess they could make use of a very usefuly application called vassal. Oh wait, nevermind.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:10:54
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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@BrookM - there were 2 tactics articles in this months WD, one for 40k IG and a Warmachines tactica for fantasy.
Although neither contained anything that an experienced player wouldn't know, the Warmachines article had good stuff in about deployment, firing arcs, area denial, redundancy and protection, whilst the IG actually had people advocating focussed force selection (all mech, all infantry, Stormie/Valk drops etc.)
@HBMC - yup, I went the same colour!
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:15:27
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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BRING BACK MIKE WALKER FOR FANTASY TACTICA ALREADY!
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:16:35
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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So Alessio Cavatore(spelling) pen this?
Well I predict he has thirty-one days left to live before Jarvis kills him by forcing him to read all those rambling standard bearer articles.I want Blachitsu(spelling) back!
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:21:31
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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[MOD]
Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Or Stilmania, Nigel was ace at making stuff from nothing and making it look easy as well.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:22:19
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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Alessio didn't write it all, but he was one of the authors on the IG article - he was the one who advocated going all mech to make your opponents S5 and under weaponry useless, or going all infantry so expensive las and melta weapons kill one guardsmen at a time.
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:23:26
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Legendary Dogfighter
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@ Cheese Elemental - with the magazine being written roughly 1/4 year ahead of publishing date, it could well have been April 1st!
They finanally cancelled my [free] subscription a couple of months ago and I haven't seen a WD since but this has got me curious - is it worth the money or still a comlpete waste? (bear in mind I like the old interesting WDs from 8-10 years ago).
Thanks,
Rob
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:26:02
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Krazed Killa Kan
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I dont care what they fill the space with (but would like to see more stuff along the lines of 'Brewhouse Bash' and other mini-games, plus more fluff generating articles and interesting tacticas/experimental rules) so long as they get rid of the 20-or-so pages advertising new stuff (used to be confined to couple) and restore the balance away from lotr
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DR:80S---G+MB---I+Pw40k08#+D+A+/fWD???R+T(M)DM+
My P&M Log: http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/433120.page
Atma01 wrote:
And that is why you hear people yelling FOR THE EMPEROR rather than FOR LOGICAL AND QUANTIFIABLE BASED DECISIONS FOR THE BETTERMENT OF THE MAJORITY!
Phototoxin wrote:Kids go in , they waste tonnes of money on marnus calgar and his landraider, the slaneshi-like GW revel at this lust and short term profit margin pleasure. Meanwhile father time and cunning lord tzeentch whisper 'our games are better AND cheaper' and then players leave for mantic and warmahordes.
daveNYC wrote:The Craftworld guys, who are such stick-in-the-muds that they manage to make the Ultramarines look like an Ibiza nightclub that spiked its Red Bull with LSD. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:27:43
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Oh I see.Well perhaps it's the start of a much welcome change,perhaps we'll get some nice useful articles and hopefully even a few helpful ones on their site.If they would devote time to writing nice articles and helpful modeling tutorials I would start buying WD again.I pick it up now and then but it's usually filled with the same "OOOOH,looks we gots new stuff,buy it's." So if they move away from that then I bet it could be a good mag again.I do understand they have a business to run and moving their products is there main goal.Yet I don't want it to be just one big advertisment.
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:30:43
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Are the IG tank articles any good or is it just a splash page and that's it?
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 10:34:07
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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The IG tactics goes on for about 8 pages, the warmachines on for about 6 IIRC (don't have the mag with me at work  )
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:00:50
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Decrepit Dakkanaut
Cozy cockpit of an Archer ARC-5S
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Ah, maybe finally something to look forward to.
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Fatum Iustum Stultorum
Fiat justitia ruat caelum
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:04:41
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Killer Klaivex
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No. I don't believe it. I get it now, this is all a prank, a test to see how gullible I am. WD is never good.
Show me proof of this miracle. If you're not all lying to me, I'll eat my hat.
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People are like dice, a certain Frenchman said that. You throw yourself in the direction of your own choosing. People are free because they can do that. Everyone's circumstances are different, but no matter how small the choice, at the very least, you can throw yourself. It's not chance or fate. It's the choice you made. |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:07:24
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Nasty Nob on Warbike with Klaw
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I miss the cardboard section in the middle, with vehicle datafaxes, wargear cards, etc. I think they even printed a cardboard bunker once. A moment of silence for the last time you actually looked forward to buying White Dwarf............................................................................................................................. Thank you.
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WAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAGGGGGHHHHH!!!!!!!!!! |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:11:43
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Ultramarine Land Raider Pilot on Cruise Control
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@Cheese - we want pictures of you eating your hat or it didn't happen...
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While you sleep, they'll be waiting...
Have you thought about the Axis of Evil pension scheme? |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:13:41
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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[SWAP SHOP MOD]
Killer Klaivex
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I quit White Dwarf two issues ago. Clearly they immediately noticed, and are attempting to lure me back, hence the publication of decent articles. If they keep it up for another few issues, I might even buy one again.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:18:39
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Owns Whole Set of Skullz Techpriests
Versteckt in den Schatten deines Geistes.
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Waaagh_Gonads wrote:I wish they would bring back battle reports with a map and pics for each turn, like they did for 15 years, instead of the ridiculous 1-2 turns and a double page pic of the table with dot points down the side of the pic trying to explain what is happening. Whoa, hold on, wait... they've stopped doing that? I know a while back they went back to doing it that way, proper maps, army lists and so on - are you saying they've gone back again to the small batrep with a photo of the table with a few boxes 'explaining' what happened? That, more than anything, was the reason I stopped buying WD back in the 90's. There was a month, around the time the 2nd Ed SoB Codex came out, where a 'BatRep' was a one page intro, a one page isometric photo of the table, and then two pages of each player summing up. Where was the report? Are you really telling me that they've gone back to this???
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 11:19:40
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Junior Officer with Laspistol
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Ketara for the sake of the general WD reading public never buy one again!
Perhaps they will try too hard to get you reading again and I can score a free box set given away with a white dwarf(I can dream can't I)!
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"I refuse to join any club that would have me as a member."-Groucho Marx
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 12:08:01
Subject: Re:White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Shas'o Commanding the Hunter Kadre
Missouri
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I stopped buying it just because it's nine fething dollars. Being gak is one thing, but overpriced gak is another thing entirely.
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Desubot wrote:Why isnt Slut Wars: The Sexpocalypse a real game dammit.
"It's easier to change the rules than to get good at the game." |
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 13:34:05
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Stern Iron Priest with Thrall Bodyguard
The drinking halls of Fenris or South London as its sometimes called
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People are misunderstanding, This months WD is the same as last months, same old Drivle. Only exciting thing that happened this month was alessio actually said hers a way to deny your opponent points or targets etc. Basic tactic by most peoples standards.
however it goes against the whole image JJ is promoting, the have fun attitude.
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R.I.P Amy Winehouse
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 13:42:42
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Yellin' Yoof on a Scooter
London
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Is it this months or last months that has the full page article about how the new brushes are made, each one being lovingly handtied....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 13:52:33
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Fixture of Dakka
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I concur that this month's WD is actually half good. Good tactics articles and some informative painting stuff (always wanted to know how you achieve the look of a heavily used flamer). The battle report almost has a map per turn (pity it's WoTR, but never mind). It is still however exceptionally stingy on preview stuff. Two pics of Space Wolves and nay a mention of anything to follow after the Space Pups (which we know to be Skaven).
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 14:03:41
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Stealthy Kroot Stalker
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Yeah but sadly GW has really been cutting down on what info leaves the studio. Staff members only being given the Black Box 4 weeks before release for example. Maybe GW realised that surprise releases, and cool new stuff you didn't know about is the way forward . . . kinda adds to the whole impulse buying aesthetic of any hobby.
In other news, I stand by previous statements in other threads, WD isn't as bad as people say, it is still full of good information, tactics, Apocalypse formations etc . . . and the tutorials that have been cut down on can instead be found FOR FREE on the interwebz, just look at the sheer amount of articles on the website.
Admittedly it still astounds me that they haven't released any full squad pictures of the new Space Puppies, or even the usual release of the front cover of the codex . . . but hey that's life.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/07/23 14:23:18
Subject: White Dwarf in useful info shock!
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Nasty Nob
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A $9 magazine must have either boobs, articles on beer, and/or 'free' stuff included. Anything else is not worth the cash.
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"Just pull it out and play with it" -Big Nasty B @ Life After the Cover Save
40k: Orks
Fantasy: Empire, Beastmen, Warriors of Chaos, and Ogre Kingdoms |
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