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Hmm...this is interesting
http://andrewsullivan.theatlantic.com/the_daily_dish/2009/07/debaptism.html#more

Satire, and mildly funny.

The problem is that I'm sure a number of these whiny atheists are taking it seriously and taking another opportunity to tell the world how terrible religion is and what victims they are.

Crackers with peanut butter is good. Everything and everyone involved in the rest of that have too much time on their hands and have issues they really need tow ork through before they can be allowed to operate heavy machinery.

Frazzled wrote:Crackers with peanut butter is good. Everything and everyone involved in the rest of that have too much time on their hands and have issues they really need tow ork through before they can be allowed to operate heavy machinery.

Really, I mean, what is the point. No pun intended, but Jesus Christ man! At what point to people get tired of spending time being a victim and get on with life?

Playing the victim role can be extremely lucrative. There are whole industries based on that.

Whatever floats your boat.. As long as it's not on my stretch of river.

I was never baptised, so I have no problem with the church.. In that respect

I can understand being upset about choices your parents made for you like, say, sex reassignment surgery or something. But if you don't believe in it, then your baptism was just another bath, why worry about it?

Grignard wrote: I can understand being upset about choices your parents made for you like, say, sex reassignment surgery or something. But if you don't believe in it, then your baptism was just another bath, why worry about it?

Because people like this feel the need to thumb their noses at God, The Church, and believers.

I mean they did get an intraweb article and we are reading/writing about it so they followed the Underpants Gnomes 3-Steps to Profit and succeeded.

Aside from the ritual hurling of abuse at bible nazi's who come to my door, I'm happily free of the dreck that is religion.

I find militant atheists to be every bit as annoying as creationist Bible-thumpers. Because both groups somehow claim to know the entire nature of the universe beyond a shadow of doubt. Although people have pitted them against each other at various points in history, science and religion really aren't really in direct competition, IMO. They operate on different fuels.

I suppose for the thousands of people who have been abused by priests this "de-baptism" could be helpful in a therapeutic context.

See, the guy that wrote this:

Hey, remember when one of the benefits of not following a religion was being spared that religion’s rituals? What’s next, Sunday atheist mass?

gets it.

The absolute idiocy of many of the world's self-styled atheists drives me up a wall sometimes. I mean really, if you don't believe in God why would you even pretend that a baptism had sufficient legitimacy to be worth "satire"?

I think I found Gwar's new career path.

dogma wrote:See, the guy that wrote this:

Hey, remember when one of the benefits of not following a religion was being spared that religion’s rituals? What’s next, Sunday atheist mass?

gets it.

The absolute idiocy of many of the world's self-styled atheists drives me up a wall sometimes. I mean really, if you don't believe in God why would you even pretend that a baptism had sufficient legitimacy to be worth "satire"?

I disagree. As Marx demonstrated through the concept of alienation, even atheists have metaphysical needs. Furthermore, ritual predates religion as such.

Yes, but the only rituals referred to were the rituals of a religion.

I have always been fascinated by some atheists desire to talk and focus so much on religion. It is kind of like telling everyone you are not gay even though you weren't asked.

It is also comical that so many would be 'atheists' know so little about the difference between what Jesus taught and Catholic dogma. Although some know way too much, which of course led them to atheism.

GoFenris wrote:I have always been fascinated by some atheists desire to talk and focus so much on religion. It is kind of like telling everyone you are not gay even though you weren't asked.

THis is true. Also I find the way they claim "religion causes nothing but arguments," within an argument, highly ironic.

Okay where was this?
i need to blow up that place.

garret I have a question for you, since you seem to be the religous type.

if a serial killer were to embrace jesus before he died would he go to heaven, and if an athiest was the most compassionate and helpful person on the planet would he go to hell

Well was it right before he died?
because no. He would have to first ask for forgivness and go to confession and tell the priest of his sins then his sins would be absolved.
Oh and yes the atheist would still go to hell. Because h failed to embrace jesus as his lord and savior.

Wow thats different. Doesnt bother me in the least tho. What people want to believe in is all their own. As long as you dont come to my door wanting to push your ideals on me, I dont care

olympia wrote:
I disagree. As Marx demonstrated through the concept of alienation, even atheists have metaphysical needs. Furthermore, ritual predates religion as such.

Well, yeah, atheists have metaphysical (assuming that 'metaphysical' is a valid designation) needs. In fact, atheism does not preclude the possibility of one being religious. That isn't the point. The point is that contemporary atheism thrives on its ability to negate the dogmatic thinking of religion. Once you inject ritual into the mix that ability disappears.

Orkeosaurus wrote:Yes, but the only rituals referred to were the rituals of a religion.

Yep. Satire is a form of legitimation.

garret wrote:Well was it right before he died?
because no. He would have to first ask for forgivness and go to confession and tell the priest of his sins then his sins would be absolved.
Oh and yes the atheist would still go to hell. Because h failed to embrace jesus as his lord and savior.

One minute you're religious, the next you're not.

Make up your damn mind!

What do you mean cheese?

garret wrote:Okay where was this?
i need to blow up that place.

That's a wonderful example of a christian attitude. Reminds me why I am not one.

You can't call some words spouted by a random guy on a wargaming forum an example of Christianity.

It's clear he's joking anyway. Stop being a bigot.

Cheese Elemental wrote:You can't call some words spouted by a random guy on a wargaming forum an example of Christianity.

It's clear he's joking anyway. Stop being a bigot.

Why... he regularly spouts off wonderful tidbits of morality in the name of an anthromorphic personafication of a creation myth.

ill take creation over dirt magicaly creating itself at the beggining of time.

"Can't we just all get along?" - Jesus (paraphrased and then later actually said by Rodney King).

And on that sensible note let's close this thread for the usual reasons. Religionist vs anti-religionist slanging is not tolerated on Dakka.