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http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate
Okay.

Son, if you think that'll shut people up you don't know about conspiracy theorists.

Just ask the people convinced 9/11 was an inside job.

Only bit of 9/11 that might have been spun was the fate of the other jet.

After all, when you've just witnessed the worst terrorist atrocity well, pretty much ever, what is going to do more harm? Telling the public you had to shoot another plane down, or giving them a story of what may have been fictional heroics?

IF it was a fib, it was a whollely forgivable one done for the right reasons.

Stupid Conspiracy Theorists. They always ignore the simple fact that the sheer number of people it would take to make their bizarre, self aggrandising theory work means someone would be prepared to blow the whistle.

Yep. Of course the 9/11 nuts still exist, in force. There are even the "we never went to the moon" nutjobs as well.

i went to 1 9/11 conspircy meeting just for the free food and all where either crack head or pot smokers.

Smoking pot is hungry work. Same with sucking d*ck for crack.

I think Bob Saget in Half Baked would disagree with you Nurglitch.

Barack Hussein Obama is not a Hawiian name at all.

SHINNANIGANS!!

Frazzled wrote:Yep. Of course the 9/11 nuts still exist, in force. There are even the "we never went to the moon" nutjobs as well.

Next thing, you'll tell me that JFK was killed by a lone gunman, Elvis is really dead, and Al Gore really did invent the internet!

Clearly Hawaiian state officials have been got at in some way. Most likely, Democrat scientists used a mind control laser, bounced off a mirror on the Moon.

barlio:

No, Bob Saget would agree with me. His point was that no one was driven to commercial acts of fellatio by marijuana. My point was that pot smokers and crackheads would both turn up for free food, albeit for different reasons. Marijuana has a tendency to increase one's appetite, making offers of free food nigh irresistible. Likewise, sucking d*ck for crack likewise makes one hungry, as all of one's money goes to sweet sweet crack cocaine.

9/11 was indeed an inside job, and FDR knew about Pearl Harbor, the Tonkin Gulf incident never even happened, and the Lusitania was sent into waters where it was sure to be sunk on purpose. Never underestimate the power and influence of the Military Industrial Complex. There have been whistle-blowers, but they've been dealt with.

Nurglitch wrote:barlio:

No, Bob Saget would agree with me. His point was that no one was driven to commercial acts of fellatio by marijuana. My point was that pot smokers and crackheads would both turn up for free food, albeit for different reasons. Marijuana has a tendency to increase one's appetite, making offers of free food nigh irresistible. Likewise, sucking d*ck for crack likewise makes one hungry, as all of one's money goes to sweet sweet crack cocaine.

I am humbled in your presence.

garret wrote:http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20090728/ap_on_re_us/us_obama_birth_certificate
Okay.

if you believe this then here's your blind fold lemming.

warpcrafter wrote:9/11 was indeed an inside job, and FDR knew about Pearl Harbor, the Tonkin Gulf incident never even happened, and the Lusitania was sent into waters where it was sure to be sunk on purpose. Never underestimate the power and influence of the Military Industrial Complex. There have been whistle-blowers, but they've been dealt with.

Most notably, Ike when he left office!
http://coursesa.matrix.msu.edu/~hst306/documents/indust.html

Part IV
In the councils of government, we must guard against the acquisition of unwarranted influence, whether sought or unsought, by the militaryindustrial complex. The potential for the disastrous rise of misplaced power exists and will persist.

Kilkrazy wrote:Clearly Hawaiian state officials have been got at in some way. Most likely, Democrat scientists used a mind control laser, bounced off a mirror on the Moon.

I tell you what though, just as well none of the Yanks have figured out all their precious 'Presidents' are actually old Queenie (who is also a Lizard) in a variety of Masks and Bodysuits.

Teehee! Revolution my arse!

Why the hell would the Democrats nominate someone who can't actually be president, and then try to cover it up? It makes no sense. Much like George Bush making up imaginary terrorists who weren't from Iraq to justify going to war with Iraq.

Hawaiian officials cannot release the brth certificate without permission of the person (Obama). The second stage fo this theory is that his mother did not meet the qualifications (its complicated) and thats why Obama doesn't want to release the official certificate.

1. I think thats the theory. DO NOT ASSOCIATE ME WITH THIS THEORY.

http://www.boingboing.net/2009/07/28/birther-congresspeop.html

Kilkrazy wrote:Clearly Hawaiian state officials have been got at in some way. Most likely, Democrat scientists used a mind control laser, bounced off a mirror on the Moon.

That's a crazy crackpot theory.

Proof: We have never been to the moon to install such a mirror for laser bouncing.

Frazzled: 1. I think thats the theory. DO NOT ASSOCIATE ME WITH THIS THEORY.

coffee --> nose --> desk --> profit?

~(somewhat) Belphegor

Nurglitch wrote: sweet sweet crack cocaine.

Where!?

Typeline wrote:

Nurglitch wrote: sweet sweet crack cocaine.

Where!?

That's Rick James B**tch!

Don't forget to call everyone who doesn't believe the same conspiracy theories as you sheep.

My girlfriend actually lived in a house with a conspiracy theorist for a while. We humored him and watched some of his tapes. Lord were they scary. Not because of the conspiracies they implied, but because of the ABSOLUTE BELIEF people have in these things. Scary man, scary.

Hey people STILL think the moonlanding was faked. Uhg that makes me want to stab someone when I hear that

This is dumber than most conspiracy theories just because of how little it matters. I don't think many people besides Glen Beck really care about this.

Also, having seen in depth all the information on stuff like JFK and 9/11 (and the Mythbusters about the moon landings), those people are nuts. Because the Illuminati want them to look that way. Clearly.

warpcrafter wrote:9/11 was indeed an inside job, and FDR knew about Pearl Harbor, the Tonkin Gulf incident never even happened, and the Lusitania was sent into waters where it was sure to be sunk on purpose. Never underestimate the power and influence of the Military Industrial Complex. There have been whistle-blowers, but they've been dealt with.

I concur with most of this... still not sure about 9/11's details yet so I'm not saying either way... and haven't done much research on the Lusitania.

Wait... I have to step in here because all of this Alex Jones talk just irritates me.

You cannot prove any of this, and if you can please do share it with the world, or don't spread your lies.

By acting in the same way that you say the government does, being... something, and passing it off as some justice to humanity is slightly sickening.

There is no real conclusive proof of nearly ANY of this stuff, and getting all your facts from biased sources without any serious cross-referencing of other information that is readily available to everyone (as your precious information is too... if you did not notice.) on the interwebs with the ability to look up Alex Jones.

Alex Jones is a Cult leader, there is no two ways about this, and at some point he is going to go down for it, and guess what everyone else is going to be "illegally" jailed and put under psychiatric supervision, then force fed drugs (which some will actually need) "for their own well being".

When this happens I will laugh, because... man, that is some deluded ass stuff.

There were most definitely discrepancies in the information about 9/11 specifically (seriously though JFK is dead, just deal with it) but in no means did they actually and factually link any serious government activity into the actions of the terrorists.

Sure the C.I.A. trained some of the terrorists, at some point in time, but on no kind terms it is technically their job to do so. Their is much more to what is going on than I am aware of I am sure, but none of this proves anything besides THEY WERE WORKING.

The problems I have are with the neverending drug war, that can be inextricably linked to our government, whether on purpose or not.

Guess what though folks, Bush is gone like yesterdays newspaper, and if you have a pile of them sitting somewhere in your house getting really yellow, you need to step out for some fresh air and sunshine, in OFFICIALLY one of the nicest countries to live in on the planet for a Joe Shmoe. If I need to explain this, you should be researching the world at large, and what is actually happening out there.

You have Mcdonald's and a serious option to be able to succeed at least to some degree, while some people have no roofs and food, or running water. When was the last time you saw that starving kids commercial? Really though?

That must be propaganda as well I take it. A big web of deceitful lies that would be so clearly apparent to everyone in the U.S. (we do have some of the largest amount of international guests here mind you, and if our brains aren't smart enough to figure this out plus theirs, we are in serious trouble as a species in general).

BLABLABLABLABLA... etc..etc...etc...

If you well and truly feel that the government isn't just ass-backwards right now, and their really are Lizard aliens running the planet, just leave the country. Go be happy spreading the word in Mexico or Canada or something, I know they will care .

It pisses me off that Obama just doesn't show off the damn certificate. If he's legal, why the feth isn't he saying "Of course I'm legal, you feths! Here's the document!"

It has been explained by his staff and this thread.

He is clearly an American citizen, and I highly doubt that he cares what a few people think of him for it, tough tiddlywinks so to speak, we don't need that nonsense right now.