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Been Around the Block




Im wondering if there will be defensive abilities that activate and fade like AoS's OBR dioramma character.

Quantum Shielding, then a Phase Shifter, then Necrodermis?

Interesting concept
   
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Florence, KY





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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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https://www.warhammer-community.com/2020/10/01/codex-necrons-new-stratagems/

New stratagems

The deathless arise stratagem makes it sound like the current resurrection rules, or something similar, may also be in the army in some way in addition to the new ones.

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Florence, KY

From Codex: Necrons – New Stratagems on Warhammer Community:



Play this when your Reanimation Protocols haven’t been as successful as you would have liked. Just when your opponent thinks they have an advantage, your dead Necrons return to the fray.




PHAERON keyword is a thing...



You can only blow up a single Scarab base and not the whole unit...

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'It is a source of constant consternation that my opponents
cannot correlate their innate inferiority with their inevitable
defeat. It would seem that stupidity is as eternal as war.'

- Nemesor Zahndrekh of the Sautekh Dynasty
Overlord of the Crownworld of Gidrim
 
   
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Numberless Necron Warrior




Scotland, UK

That's such a tantalising tease! I still suspect it's similar to the Hospitaller ability, and will restore D3 wounds/1 model (on min wounds?).
   
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Been Around the Block




Such a tease. Can use Rites of Reanimation again... but doesnt day what it does : D
   
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Decrepit Dakkanaut




Uh did they say Wraiths are now at D3 instead of D2?

CaptainStabby wrote:
If Tyberos falls and needs to catch himself it's because the ground needed killing.

 jy2 wrote:
BTW, I can't wait to run Double-D-thirsters! Man, just thinking about it gets me Khorney.

 vipoid wrote:
Indeed - what sort of bastard would want to use their codex?

 MarsNZ wrote:
ITT: SoB players upset that they're receiving the same condescending treatment that they've doled out in every CSM thread ever.
 
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Uh did they say Wraiths are now at D3 instead of D2?


They said the Transdimensional Beamer is AP3 flat D3.
   
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Slayer-Fan123 wrote:
Uh did they say Wraiths are now at D3 instead of D2?


They said their dimensional beamers are, not their melee attacks.
   
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Numberless Necron Warrior




Scotland, UK

I do like this Strat, it's an interesting decision: would you use the reroll strat if this failed? Well, guarantee it with a strat. But then... what if I succeeded without spending it? You pay for the consistency.

I also really like the idea of a bunch of Crypteks standing round looking at astral charts and arguing about the exact frequency a random warrior's gauss rifle should be programmed to in order to take the last wound off a Leman Russ in a week's time.
   
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Deranged Necron Destroyer



UK, Midlands

So Crypteks can raise the dead in the command phase? Nice. Makes the reanimator ability more interesting if crypteks don't do that anymore.
I feel like a lot of the new rules make necrons feel more like undead from fantasy; characters raising the dead and enabling nearby units to work properly.

Also I'm sure it was mentioned somewhere that Szeras gets to do rites of reanimation twice, so 3 times with this strat.

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Washington State



I don't know what any of these things do, or what they are... but the names sound awesome.
   
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Numberless Necron Warrior




Scotland, UK

I'm very happy to see what looks like wargear/relics having points costs attached to be honest, dealing with all this stuff through CPs and 'free' Relics really limits the scope of what they can do.
   
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Terrifying Doombull




Interesting stuff. Far more interesting than the command protocols article.

I agree on the move away from CP for gear.

I find it odd that the Phaeron 'promotion' is a CP strat, while all the marine promotions are point based.

Efficiency is the highest virtue. 
   
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 necrontyrOG wrote:


I don't know what any of these things do, or what they are... but the names sound awesome.


Those are great. "Prismatic Obfuscatron" haha!
   
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The dark behind the eyes.

 necrontyrOG wrote:


I don't know what any of these things do, or what they are... but the names sound awesome.


Cool to see Necrons actually getting some new wargear (or, if I was to guess, getting back some of their old wargear but with new, more pretentious names).

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Wicked Wych With a Whip





I'm pretty happy for you Necron players, you actually are getting a lot of cool toys.

Hope all Xenos got this treatment, and I don't see why not.

The Bloody Sails
 
   
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Longtime Dakkanaut




Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.
   
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Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's with 1 shot I think but depending on what you're firing with that might be worth it.
   
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America

Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.
   
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Working on it

Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good

<Dynasty> ~10500pts
War Coven of the Coruscating Gaze ~3000pts
Thrice-Damned Plague Corps ~3250pts
Admech (TBN) ~3500pts +30k Bots and Ulator

 
   
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CommanderWalrus wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.


Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good


Right, me properly reading the text might have been beneficial.....

But yeah, that of course seems a lot more reasonable.
   
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Tiberias wrote:
CommanderWalrus wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.


Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good


Right, me properly reading the text might have been beneficial.....

But yeah, that of course seems a lot more reasonable.


I'm already polishing up my Tachyon arrows.
   
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Nihilistic Necron Lord






Germany

With malevolent arcing the MW effect always happens. It doesnt matter if 20 or 1 model shoot, and it doesnt matter whether their attacks hit or not. You still roll for enemy units within 6"

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Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
CommanderWalrus wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.


Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good


Right, me properly reading the text might have been beneficial.....

But yeah, that of course seems a lot more reasonable.


I'm already polishing up my Tachyon arrows.

Then you roll a 1 for damage.


 
   
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 Sim-Life wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
CommanderWalrus wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.


Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good


Right, me properly reading the text might have been beneficial.....

But yeah, that of course seems a lot more reasonable.


I'm already polishing up my Tachyon arrows.

Then you roll a 1 for damage.


That's fine - then I'll just use another CP for a reroll.
Into another

But you're right - Ideally you want this on something that has a high consistent damage to make 100% sure you get it.
   
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Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
CommanderWalrus wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.


Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good


Right, me properly reading the text might have been beneficial.....

But yeah, that of course seems a lot more reasonable.


I'm already polishing up my Tachyon arrows.

Then you roll a 1 for damage.


That's fine - then I'll just use another CP for a reroll.
Into another

But you're right - Ideally you want this on something that has a high consistent damage to make 100% sure you get it.


Those huge ass menhirs the silent has as embellishment for his pimp throne might be a good candidate.
They each have one shot at S12 and flat 6 dmg.
   
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Scotland, UK

Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
 Sim-Life wrote:
Cryptek of Awesome wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
CommanderWalrus wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.

It's for a single attack on a single model if that's not clear, but yeah it seems pretty useful in some situations.


Kharne the Befriender wrote:
Tiberias wrote:
Wait, am I missing something or is the new strategem "techno-oracular targeting", where you automatically wound your target in the shooting phase, ridiculously strong. Especially for 1 CP.


It's for a single attack, so it can be good


Right, me properly reading the text might have been beneficial.....

But yeah, that of course seems a lot more reasonable.


I'm already polishing up my Tachyon arrows.

Then you roll a 1 for damage.


That's fine - then I'll just use another CP for a reroll.
Into another

But you're right - Ideally you want this on something that has a high consistent damage to make 100% sure you get it.


*cough* Annihilation Beam *cough*

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Annihilation Bean

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The dark behind the eyes.

 p5freak wrote:
With malevolent arcing the MW effect always happens. It doesnt matter if 20 or 1 model shoot, and it doesnt matter whether their attacks hit or not. You still roll for enemy units within 6"


Boy, you'd almost think that some special rules should have remained tied to specific units/weapons, rather than being made into Stratagems to pad them out.

 blood reaper wrote:
I will respect human rights and trans people but I will never under any circumstances use the phrase 'folks' or 'ya'll'. I would rather be killed by firing squad.



 the_scotsman wrote:
Yeah, when i read the small novel that is the Death Guard unit options and think about resolving the attacks from a melee-oriented min size death guard squad, the thing that springs to mind is "Accessible!"

 Argive wrote:
GW seems to have a crystal ball and just pulls hairbrained ideas out of their backside for the most part.


 Andilus Greatsword wrote:

"Prepare to open fire at that towering Wraithknight!"
"ARE YOU DAFT MAN!?! YOU MIGHT HIT THE MEN WHO COME UP TO ITS ANKLES!!!"


Akiasura wrote:
I hate to sound like a serial killer, but I'll be reaching for my friend occam's razor yet again.


 insaniak wrote:

You're not. If you're worried about your opponent using 'fake' rules, you're having fun the wrong way. This hobby isn't about rules. It's about buying Citadel miniatures.

Please report to your nearest GW store for attitude readjustment. Take your wallet.
 
   
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Wonder if that'll go on the Annihilation Barge?
   
 
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