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Ok, so I was reading the rules on vehicles, fast and open- topped. Rules say that the vehicle is so steady at greater speeds that heavy weapons can fire while moving at combat speed. We are all familiar with that, but what about fast open-topped transports, allowing a unit with heavy weapons to fire. Now, to support this, I have been told, from very knowledgeable, that units firing from transports have same rules binding the vehicles weapons as the unit inside of them, with regards to movement. Am i off base on my interpretation of this rule or am i missing something?

If a vehicle moves even one nine billionth of an inch, the models inside count as moving. The models inside do not use the vehicles rules, they use the rules for Infantry. If the vehicle moves AT ALL less than or equal to 6", the models may fire, but count as moving. If a vehicle moves even one nine billionths of an inch more than 6", the models inside may not fire, period.

I don't normally challenge posts, but where is that in the rule book. I know the rules about moving, but what about moving inside a open topped vehicle. The only reason I ask for this is, because i cant find it. Is this just and understood rule or is there anything pointed out to this effect in the rule book other than units standard moving and firing rules. It is my understanding that the purpose of being in a transport is to make the unit more mobile. Might just be the attorney in me, but i like evidence.

Main rules Page 66 - especially paragraph 10.

The rule is located on page 66, under the Header "Fire Points", 3rd paragraph, for models counting as moving when the vehicle moves.

There's no special rule that allows models with Heavy weapons firing from moving Open topped vehicles. The vehicles have no set number of fire points so all models inside can fire if able to shoot, but that's the only special shooting rule I can see for these vehicles.

Just to add a bit more redundancy, Page 66

You could still go 12", jump out, then fire, but not if it were a heavy weapon, unless of course you are relentless.

Reecius wrote:You could still go 12", jump out, then fire, but not if it were a heavy weapon, unless of course you are relentless.

Correct. However, you cannot go 12" and fire from a Fire Point, even if you ARE relentless.

Good to know!

Gwar! wrote:If a vehicle moves even one nine billionth of an inch, the models inside count as moving. The models inside do not use the vehicles rules, they use the rules for Infantry. If the vehicle moves AT ALL less than or equal to 6", the models may fire, but count as moving. If a vehicle moves even one nine billionths of an inch more than 6", the models inside may not fire, period.

However, if you can accurately measure and move your model exactly one TEN billionth of an inch, I give it to you.....


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Gwar! wrote:

Reecius wrote:You could still go 12", jump out, then fire, but not if it were a heavy weapon, unless of course you are relentless.

Correct. However, you cannot go 12" and fire from a Fire Point, even if you ARE relentless.

Man, while the rule is completely spelled out, it is pretty silly.