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2009/10/06 23:14:29
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
Since I played Arkham Asylum last month, my brother and I got back into Batman and started picking up a few tradepaperbacks and I hoped Dakka could recommend me some more. So far I've read:
- Dark Knight Returns, which is great.
- DK2, which I think is the point were Frank Miller started to go nuts.
- Killing Joke, of course
- Batman Year One
- Hush, which is my favourite Batman Comic so far.
- Heart of Hush, which is overall pretty okay with a great ending
- Scarecrow Year One
- Batman Black and White
- I read Knightfall last year.
I also have Dark Victory lying around, but I'm not that far into it yet.
Anything the comic geeks of Dakkadakka can recomend? Maybe something Paul Dini wrote? The guy at our local comic store keeps trying to sell me the Arkham Asylum Graphic novel, but I really don't like the style.
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2009/10/06 23:32:05
Subject: Re:Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
Long Halloween, the lead in to Dark Victory. Read it before you read Dark Victory.
You might also try, oh I don't know, Arkham Asylum: A Serious House on Serious Earth. The game pretty much stole the plot from this as well as other things. Enough that I can't believe Grant Morrison isn't given credit in the game at all. The airbrushed artwork is trippy.
Brian Azzarello's Joker graphic novel is interesting as well. It was in the works before The Dark Knight and came out about the same time, making the visual similarities eerie.
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Amidst the mists and coldest frosts he thrusts his fists against the posts and still insists he sees the ghosts.
2009/10/06 23:38:56
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
I heard about Long Helloween, but I didn't find it yet.
I forgot to mention the Joker Graphic novel, I already read that one too.
Besides Hush, is there any other Batman stuff drawn by Jim Lee besides....you know....that thing....from Frank Miller....which I don't want to mention by name....?
2009/10/07 12:19:59
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
I'd recommend Batman :RIP which lead us nicely into the current era...
Spoiler:
you do know Dick Grayson is Batman now right ? With Damien as Robin..it's great stuff.
Realted to that Batman and Son is good, and I'd recommend Morrisons run on JLA as if features plenty of cool moments especiallyw ith Batman.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/10/07 13:35:08
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
Grant Morrison is a hack. A vastly overated egotistical hack.
Some stuff I enjoyed:
Contagion and Legacy, Cataclysm, War Games (some of it, anyway), parts of the Last Laugh.
I'll second the Long Hallowe'en, it's very good.
Knightsend is good for it's time.
Fixed. Pisses all over Moore's work from a great height.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/10/07 15:13:40
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
No way. At least Moore can write with some nuance at times, Morrison just brains you over the head with his dumb ass postmodern "point" until you give in.
Final Crisis was a pile of spank for continuity obsessed fanboys. Batman RIP stank to high heaven.
Morrison is alright at writing silly titles or stuff no one cares much about. He should never have been let loose on batman.
FInal Crisis was awesome..would have been better if they'd kept the original artist, but it was a jaw droppingly good peice of writing. Hell he's even made Aquaman seem cool, a feat hitherto thought impossible.
..Sales on his Batman work would argue against you further.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/10/07 15:26:04
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
Batman and Robin is the best Batman comic they've done post crisis.
..Moore writes with nuance does he ? Hmm... when he's doingt hat then ? Fair play, Lost Girls has soem sublety but the rest of his stuff from about 89 onwards is hardly nuanced... didn't read much (any ?) of his Image work I assume ?
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/10/07 15:36:09
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
Well, from Moore's work I'd rate Watchmen, V, Top Ten and Swamp Thing as being good. LOEG was crap. Out of the onces I listed, probably only Watchmen was nuanced, and really that's only compared to Morrison.
I'm really unhappy with Batman and Robin for a few reasons.
Yes, I know that Dick is Batman now, I've stumbled over it when I was reading Batman's entry in the DC Wikia.
My brother and me just started picking up the monthly Batman issues when R.I.P. was already rolling. Heart of Hush is part of R.I.P. as far as I understand (though I don't see any relation), but I really hated the conclusion.
Spoiler:
Trying to make a villian out of Thomas Wayne is probably the WORST THING EVER to come out of the DC universe, and that's saying a lot!
And then they don't even "kill" Batman in his own series by one of his enemies, it has to be Darkside? That's pretty lame imho. I like Darkside, but from what I've read online, it's not really a good ending for the Dark Knight.
Is the Nightwing stuff during R.I.P. any good? There's a TPB for it.
When you're talking about Batman and Robin, I hope you don't mean *shudder* Allstar Batman and Robin, do you? That thing is wrong on so many levels.
I really don't want to get into the whole "crisis" stuff. Though DC proves to be better than I used to think it is, I don't want to read any multiverse stuff (yet).
I'm not sure if I read anything from Morrison yet, so far I really enjoyed what I read from Loeb. Granted, that was mostly Hush, but I loved it. I prefer some of the more modern Batman stories where he as at least one sidekick to his Solo-stories. Though I'm open any to suggestions at this point.
How's the Batman/Superman stuff? I just saw the Public Enemies movie, which is based on the first arc. I also looked into Trinity, but it was full of Alien monsters, and I don't really need that at this point.
Moore's work is certainly..debaitable. Killing Joke is important, no doubt about it. Watchmen is great, but I didn't really like Vendetta.
One more thing, can you recomend any Green Lantern stuff?
2009/10/07 20:22:19
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
..err it wasn't actually THomas Wayne you understand right ? Someone much worse, trying to discredit EVERYTHING Batman/Bruce Wayne had ever done or stood for. That's how you really attack Batman, through his family.. like when Ras Al Ghul dug up Bruce's parents and "threatened" to put them into the Lazarus pit.
AS to his "death".. which the Omega affect doesn't actually do .. it took a God to kill him and he took said God with him. That is cool as far as I'm concerned.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/10/07 20:34:47
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
Okay, I must have missed a few bitz and pieces in that case. I never caught be part were they say it's not him. In that case I can live with it. Though I was dissapointend anyway with how they handled it, with his new girlfriend being a villian all along. Was kinda dumb, if you ask me.
When I started reading R.I.P. he already had his new girlfriend, yet in Heart of Hush, Paul Dini wrote that wonderful part where Bruce tells Selina he loves her. How does that fit in?
You got a good point about Darkseid there btw.
2009/10/07 22:21:29
Subject: Re:Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
he knows, right from the start, that she is in on it, that she is part of the Black Glove.
The whole thing about his dad was to ruin his family name : they set it up to look like Thomas wayne was an alcoholic drug addict who arranged for his wife to be murdered so he could fake his death and do a runner with the insurance money. They faked photos showing them at orgies with people, shooting up and implied that Alfred might actually have been Bruce's father.
The poor man really has a stake in the country. The rich man hasn't; he can go away to New Guinea in a yacht. The poor have sometimes objected to being governed badly; the rich have always objected to being governed at all
We love our superheroes because they refuse to give up on us. We can analyze them out of existence, kill them, ban them, mock them, and still they return, patiently reminding us of who we are and what we wish we could be.
"the play's the thing wherein I'll catch the conscience of the king,
2009/10/07 22:55:05
Subject: Can anyone recommend some good Batman comics?
.. it took a God to kill him and he took said God with him. That is cool as far as I'm concerned.
