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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 17:39:42
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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So the last time I used my orks against this guy he didn't have a vehicle bigger than a rhino. So I used 45 lootas, 40 boyz and a big mek with a shokk attack gun. No big deal I stomped him pretty good. This next game he warned me ahead of time that he was gonna use Njal storm caller in a landraider and a buncha melta weapons. my original Idea was 30 lootas, 79 boyz, SAG big mek and 40 storm boyz for a 1500 point game. But since he is using at least one land raider I need to do something different. Here's my issues: 1) I'm leery of tanks because I know he has the fire power to knock them down in one go 2)tank bustas are only good for taking down tanks in close combat because rokkit launchas are inaccurate and not quite strong enough to really do anything against armor 14 3) power klaws could do the trick but again have to be in CC and using vehicles is fool hardy at best against his list. I thought about nob bikers W/ PKs but thats a ton of points to drop on the disposal of one tank. Help me guys my indecision is getting the better of me as always.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 19:07:32
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Jovial Plaguebearer of Nurgle
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If you want to take it down at range I would suggest kannons. They can only glance but they are more accurate. The best way to take down a LR is get lucky with your SAG, I always my big mek an ammo runt so I can re-roll my scatter die, or use PK's. Thats how I have always done it.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 19:24:16
Subject: Re:Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Fixture of Dakka
Feasting on the souls of unworthy opponents
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If you're doing an ork gunline, you have a few choices to deal with a land raider:
1. Tank bustas (small unit)
2. Deff Koptas. TL rokkits on them; cheap and good way to get some stunned/shakens in there at least to hold that land raider still.
3. Zzap guns (not my preference)
4. Getting lucky with your SAG. If you can roll STR8+, its ordinance meaning you get 2d6 to try penetrating; not stacked, but 2d6, pick the highest. On the flip side, Lootas are useless and if you attach the SAG to the Lootas, they have to shoot at the LR with him.
5. A small squad (like 3) nob bikers, or a warboss + three nob bikers with powerklaws isn't ridiculous for cost and can roll up to the land raider and seriously ruin its day.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 19:24:16
Subject: Re:Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Tough-as-Nails Ork Boy
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PKs are about as reliable as orks can get for that. SAG is fun but unpredictable and kannons aren't any better than rokkits for anti tank duty.
Nob bikers are expensive but man are they good. Really the only way to take nobs if you're not taking battlewagons.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 19:59:24
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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Spam Deff Rolla Battlewagons. D6 strength ten hits is not to be sniffed at, even when you have AV14. Take 3 and Drive them towards his Land Raider as fast as possible. You might lose a BW to the repercussions or ramming, but Njal ought not to last very long with a couple of battlewagons hunting him down.
Cam
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 20:05:16
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Never-Miss Nightwing Pilot
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Have you tried kommandos?? A kommando nob with a PK can make short work of a tank hiding at his table edge.
Really though the best way for orks to eliminate tanks is in CC. For shooting id have to go with zzap guns or SAGs and hope you get lucky.
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"The stars themselves once lived and died at our command yet you still dare oppose our will. "-Farseer Mirehn Biellann
Armies at 'The Stand-still Point':
Cap'n Waaagggh's warband (Fantasy Orcs) 2250pts. Waaagghhh! in full flow... W-D-L=10-3-3
Hive Fleet Leviathan Strand 1500pts. W-D-L=7-1-2 Nom.
Eldar armies of various sizes W-D-L 26-6-3
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/19 20:38:21
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Storm Trooper with Maglight
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PKs, PKs, PKs. Deff rollas are also the way to go. As are deff dreads or killa kanz.
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Mud company 2000 pts.
Colonel Hermann Winter's Armoured fist 1500 pts.
Armored battlegroup 1750 pts.
Death korps of Krieg 4000 pts.
FoW germans 5000 pts.
BFG Imperial fleet 2500 pts.
Necromunda gang 2500 credits
Easterlings and Harad LotR 1300 pts.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 02:54:28
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Regular Dakkanaut
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deff rollas for the win.
Assuming your group allows them to be used against vehicles....
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/20 03:03:26
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Malicious Mutant Scum
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thanks for the ideas guys. I'm gonna mull over my list a little and incorporate some of ur ideas.
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/22 21:47:54
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Horrible Hekatrix With Hydra Gauntlets
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There is absolutely no Debate about whether Deff Rollas affect vehicles. The wording of Deff Rollas is: "whenever the vehicle performs a tank shock" and the wording for Ramming is 'ramming is a special type of tank shock'. There is no contradiction and I would refuse to play anyone who tries to twist it in their favour.
Cam
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![[Post New]](/s/i/i.gif) 2009/11/22 21:52:37
Subject: Help plz orks vs space wolves
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Been Around the Block
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Nob bikers with PKs are great for that. Thats what I use for it.
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