Stormraven built with pics!

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**Ouze**

BrassScorpion wrote:
nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft.
That completely ridiculous and fallacious statement has come up many times over the years. Warhammer was created in the mid-1980's, long before MMORPG or even the original Warcraft computer game. Warcraft from its beginning was a blatant rip-off of Warhammer, albeit a really well-done one, that is, if you liked chopping wood. A friend let me try the original Warcraft once, I was not into chopping and collecting wood and didn't buy it. I still buy Warhammer models though.

All fantasy games owe a debt to Lord of the Rings, including the first popular one, Dungeons & Dragons. All games after D&D owe a debt to it, it was highly influential on every fantasy game to come after it, including Warhammer.

Lowering the flying stand for the Stormraven may lower it's visibility to others, but the reverse is also true, thereby reducing it's ability to see and target enemy models. Funny how that usually gets overlooked. The laws of physics are out the window in most of 40K, but not so much in the line of sight rules.

1.) Successful troll is successful, with regards to GWS ripping off wow

2.) Altering the flying stand to lower the profile of a model is modelling for advantage. Period. it's cheating. The fact that it also has some drawbacks don't change the fact, at all, that as-altered, it will be able to gain cover that it is not entitled to. The fact that it can't target as well it irrelevant in it's transport role.

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SebastionSynn wrote:
Personally, I dig it. It looks like typical Imperial aviation design; It's not aerodynamic enough to fly, strap more engines to it until it does. I like it!

I agree, when you look at pics of the thunderhawk it looks just as clunky and impossible to get off the ground as this does, but then a bumblebee is not supposed to be able to fly either.

A little OT, but that quote is an incomplete myth. At the time it was made, it was the 30s, and the actual quote was more along the lines of, we don't understand how they fly. Which would make sense in the 30s, as they fly like a helicopter, and we had not yet understood that technology.

**Redbeard**

shrike wrote:Try stabbing a citadel paint pot (on it's side) with a metal skewer. Now try stabbing it with the pot standing up. Which was easier?

I'm not sure what this was meant to prove. I stabbed the one on it's side and got paint all over my desk and my shirt, and now my paint pot has a hole in it.

**JohnHwangDD**

Redbeard wrote:
shrike wrote:Try stabbing a citadel paint pot (on it's side) with a metal skewer. Now try stabbing it with the pot standing up. Which was easier?

I'm not sure what this was meant to prove. I stabbed the one on it's side and got paint all over my desk and my shirt, and now my paint pot has a hole in it.

UR not doin' it rite.

Try again.

**shrike**

Redbeard wrote:
shrike wrote:Try stabbing a citadel paint pot (on it's side) with a metal skewer. Now try stabbing it with the pot standing up. Which was easier?

I'm not sure what this was meant to prove. I stabbed the one on it's side and got paint all over my desk and my shirt, and now my paint pot has a hole in it.

I can't remember, and I can't find the page I posted that on. If you find that page and tell me, I'll remember.

**warboss**

Redbeard wrote:
shrike wrote:Try stabbing a citadel paint pot (on it's side) with a metal skewer. Now try stabbing it with the pot standing up. Which was easier?

I'm not sure what this was meant to prove. I stabbed the one on it's side and got paint all over my desk and my shirt, and now my paint pot has a hole in it.

dude, you should totally sue him! sue him in england!

**crazyK**

I personally love the Stormraven. It reminds me of my favorite movie spaceship.

**Jayden63**

I've seen the Cibihawk myself, painted in a very talented weathered green. The paint job looked much better than the model did.

I personally will not be getting one even if the SW actually get access to it at some point. The model is just firmly meh, however, it is better than than the original pictures made it out to be, but it is in no way a must get for me.

It does look silly on the flight stand though. Its just kinda squatting there.

**Necroagogo**

Quote from Jes in WD this month concerning the 'look' of the Stormraven:

'I wanted it to look extremely brutal ... It's no coincidence that if you clench your fist and hold it horizontally, you'll have a very similar silhouette to the Stormraven'.

**shrike**

Necroagogo wrote:Quote from Jes in WD this month concerning the 'look' of the Stormraven:

'I wanted it to look extremely brutal ... It's no coincidence that if you clench your fist and hold it horizontally, you'll have a very similar silhouette to the Stormraven'.

'The designers wanted it to look extremely brutal ... It's no coincidence that if you clench your fist and hold it horizontally, you'll have a very similar silhouette to what the designers used to sculpt the stormraven'.

^ what he said before the editor got to him. ^

**Necroagogo**

**Ouze**

Necroagogo wrote:Quote from Jes in WD this month concerning the 'look' of the Stormraven:

'I wanted it to look extremely brutal ... It's no coincidence that if you clench your fist and hold it horizontally, you'll have a very similar silhouette to the Stormraven'.

I find Jes to generally be a talented sculptor, and now wonder how he does the job with his clearly mangled hands.

**JohnHwangDD**

Ouze wrote:
Necroagogo wrote:Quote from Jes in WD this month concerning the 'look' of the Stormraven:

'I wanted it to look extremely brutal ... It's no coincidence that if you clench your fist and hold it horizontally, you'll have a very similar silhouette to the Stormraven'.

I find Jes to generally be a talented sculptor, and now wonder how he does the job with his clearly mangled hands.

Apparently, it's now worse than the Perry guy who blew his hand off...

**Carpediem833**

This kit would be great for, well, kit bashing and combining with some other stuff like a Valkyrie...

And no its not my conversion...

**Ouze**

I love how the wings and top look, less so for reviving the "exit doors right in front of the weapons" paradigm.

**GalacticDefender**

Prophecy07 wrote:Can you model it with landing gears up if it's to be placed on the flight stand?

Even if you couldn't, it would be a ridiculously easy conversion. Just cut off the bottom of the gear piece, and glue it on the ship.

**Grey Templar**

yes, you can model the landing gear up.

**Ouze**

So, mine came a little bit ago, and I cut some bits off to see how they go together. No serious assembly yet, just screwing around.

What's up with the rear hatch? Is there really nothing to hold it into the frame other then that open hinge? It falls off every time it's opened.

**BrassScorpion**

Yeah, the rear hatch tends to fall off. I'm planning to probably just glue it on, which is what I did for my local GW store when I built their Stormraven to prevent that door from being lost.

**UltraPrime**

Ouze wrote:So, mine came a little bit ago, and I cut some bits off to see how they go together. No serious assembly yet, just screwing around.

What's up with the rear hatch? Is there really nothing to hold it into the frame other then that open hinge? It falls off every time it's opened.

Oh, god yes. The one thing that actually ruins an otherwise perfect model*

*by perfect, I mean construction-wise. Looks are in the eye of the beholder.

**Ouze**

BrassScorpion wrote:Yeah, the rear hatch tends to fall off. I'm planning to probably just glue it on, which is what I did for my local GW store when I built their Stormraven to prevent that door from being lost.

Grrr, that sucks. I don't want to choose between either gluing it on or having it call off. Will hack something together. That's a problem that they could have easily solved with no effort. LAZY.

**MajorTom11**

A small r.e magnet to hold it on but still be able to open perhaps?

**veritechc**

Carpediem833 wrote:This kit would be great for, well, kit bashing and combining with some other stuff like a Valkyrie...

And no its not my conversion...

That is a much better model then GW's. What were they thinking?

**UltraPrime**

MajorTom11 wrote:A small r.e magnet to hold it on but still be able to open perhaps?

It's not staying on thats the problem. It's when you open it, it just comes off. Not very movable.

**shrike**

JohnHwangDD wrote:
Ouze wrote:
Necroagogo wrote:Quote from Jes in WD this month concerning the 'look' of the Stormraven:

'I wanted it to look extremely brutal ... It's no coincidence that if you clench your fist and hold it horizontally, you'll have a very similar silhouette to the Stormraven'.

I find Jes to generally be a talented sculptor, and now wonder how he does the job with his clearly mangled hands.

Apparently, it's now worse than the Perry guy who blew his hand off...

I saw him at GD, he's still sculpting really well IMO.
I want someone to photoshop together a silhouette of a horizontal fist, then over it silhouette of a stormraven. They look nothing alike.

**warboss**

veritechc wrote:That is a much better model then GW's. What were they thinking?

that they have your money regardless of what they phsycially put out as long as the rules are cool? that's my guess...

**cadbren**

Can it be modeled with a dred attached?

**UltraPrime**

cadbren wrote:Can it be modeled with a dred attached?

Not really. Possible, but I think it may fall over...

**shrike**

cadbren wrote:Can it be modeled with a dred attached?

well, if you magnetise the top of the dread and winch of the SR, and move the DCCW to be "holding" it, then yes. Without any magnetising or conversions? No.

**Capt. Rex**

I would love to see one painted up in Lamenters colours.
Probably help it look better too

**niallkissick**

I already want another one! I'm thinking a dual stormraven list for badness!

Re. The back hatch, i just glued it shut, i prefer the idea of my assault marines/death company charging out the front hatch into the melee instead of sneaking out the back hatch!