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Eberious wrote:Mine will be for my BT army, I already got the green light to use it in friendly games. But you never know, as the baal pred is still BA only as far as I'm aware.

I've got the green to use it in friendlies in my raven guard army (counts-as blood angels)

@shrike, cool. mine counts as black templars

and heres that vid I was on about. Came across it by chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VrRwHtIGMw&NR=1

Skip to 2 min 12 secs and watch for the quick flash. Move the engines to the back where the are on the SR and presto copyright avoided. I don't really care just thought the two were very very alike.

shrike wrote:

niallkissick wrote:Yeh, i thought it was a sales ploy by the store to drum up more sales! i have been building mine bit by bit all weekend!! cant bear to put the top turret on it!!! may have to plasticard up the hole, and mount the LC/PC/AC elsewhere

put a RB turret on it. If you want it to turn, plasticard it so it fits. I'm gonna be cutting up a razorback mount and gluing it in place of the stormraven mount.

the current turret is alot more aerodynamic then a Razorback turret. why does everyone say the opposite?

i like it's turret.

Grey Templar wrote:

shrike wrote:

niallkissick wrote:Yeh, i thought it was a sales ploy by the store to drum up more sales! i have been building mine bit by bit all weekend!! cant bear to put the top turret on it!!! may have to plasticard up the hole, and mount the LC/PC/AC elsewhere

put a RB turret on it. If you want it to turn, plasticard it so it fits. I'm gonna be cutting up a razorback mount and gluing it in place of the stormraven mount.

the current turret is alot more aerodynamic then a Razorback turret. why does everyone say the opposite?

i like it's turret.

It's just the proper turret doesn't suit space marines...looks more eldar-like to me...

ok, so the one part of the SR that doesn't look like a brick is one that everyone wants gone?


i will say that it would look sweet on a Razorback.

BTW has anyone stuck the hurricane bolters on the side of rhino just to see if it looks cool??? I did earlier before the girlfriend arrived, i have to say it looked alright!!!

Have also noticed it is rear heavy, with the front of the front landing gear sitting up about 2mm from the table it currently rests on!

Yeah, the thing looks like a bits box waiting to happen. Loads of good gubbinz!

shrike wrote:

Eberious wrote:Mine will be for my BT army, I already got the green light to use it in friendly games. But you never know, as the baal pred is still BA only as far as I'm aware.

I've got the green to use it in friendlies in my raven guard army (counts-as blood angels)

If your Raven Guard are 'counts as' Blood Angels, you really don't need anyone's permission, do you?

Ouze wrote:There is absolutely no way whatsoever, period, that this will stay a BA\GK only vehicle, any more then the Land Raider Crusader stayed a Black Templar only vehicle. I suspect it will be open to all marine chapters within, at most, one year, and probably within 6 months.

while i agree that it will eventually become open to all marine chapters (probably right around the time the next vanilla marine codex comes out), you're wrong about the crusader. the crusader was NEVER a templar only vehicle. from the very beginning, all marine chapters could take a single crusader (while the templars could take 0-3). I used one with my 3rd edition blood angels from the week it came out onward.

H.B.M.C. wrote:I just looks so ungainly on a flying base.

Then yous should gets off the flying base then and leaves it to the models eh!


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Grey Templar wrote:ok, so the one part of the SR that doesn't look like a brick is one that everyone wants gone?


i will say that it would look sweet on a Razorback.

That's what I was thinking, I assume the parts are compatible?

how the heck is this thing rear heavy?

it should be wanting to nose dive on you.

I imagine it's rear heavy because the tail, wings, engine pods and air intake are all on the rear half of the model...

Does anyone else think it strange that the Stormraven is heavy support instead of dedicated transport or fast attack?
Or am I just looking at it the wrong way.

I do see the modding potential, but I'm still not comfortable paying $110 for it

Yeh, all the weight is in the back of the model, i took some photos this morning, i'll try and post them after work.

Followed instructions to the letter, currently i had no turret on the top so this may be causing the unbalancing issues.

I've not got any balancing issues. Model fit together perfectly, and sits firm on table. You sure you haven't put something in wrong place?

I've seen in it this saturday on the gaming table and friday from a friend that painted it in Ultramarines colors.

Boy that thing is a gigantic chicken.

It is a "nice" model but it depends from the angles you're looking at it, also in Ultra blue it's a lot nicer than the red BA counterpart. The only thing I like of this model is the way it's meant to be built... and please... PLEASE tell me what they had in mind when they made the elevators on the opposite direction.

Personally, in the end I don't like it. A Valkyrie has more dignity and is more badass than this flying chicken. :(

Eberious wrote:Keep forgetting to say this since the first glimpes of the SR were floating around. The SR really looks like a gunship I saw on another game. Was something like starcraft but not 100% sure. Was on a youtube music fan vid and saw about 1.5 seconds of it, yeah I know vague as hell right.

But keep thinking GW may of ripped it off another company, one of those they take to the cleaners.

Well, that's kind of how Games Workshop runs it's business. Half of 40K is totally a ripoff of Starcraft, just as nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft. Blizzard should totes sue them.

Mine arrived this morning, Sons of Medusa here we go.!!!

Ouze wrote:

Eberious wrote:Keep forgetting to say this since the first glimpes of the SR were floating around. The SR really looks like a gunship I saw on another game. Was something like starcraft but not 100% sure. Was on a youtube music fan vid and saw about 1.5 seconds of it, yeah I know vague as hell right.

But keep thinking GW may of ripped it off another company, one of those they take to the cleaners.

Well, that's kind of how Games Workshop runs it's business. Half of 40K is totally a ripoff of Starcraft, just as nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft. Blizzard should totes sue them.

The sarcasm... It burns...

ok, so the one part of the SR that doesn't look like a brick is one that everyone wants gone?

Strangely enough yes. I for one like the turret finally being something that doesnt look like a non functioning brick.

But keep thinking GW may of ripped it off another company, one of those they take to the cleaners.

Well, that's kind of how Games Workshop runs it's business. Half of 40K is totally a ripoff of Starcraft, just as nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft. Blizzard should totes sue them.

Heh, the whiners whine the loudest themselves. I find that kind of funny. Very funny in fact.

Ouze wrote:

Eberious wrote:Keep forgetting to say this since the first glimpes of the SR were floating around. The SR really looks like a gunship I saw on another game. Was something like starcraft but not 100% sure. Was on a youtube music fan vid and saw about 1.5 seconds of it, yeah I know vague as hell right.

But keep thinking GW may of ripped it off another company, one of those they take to the cleaners.

Well, that's kind of how Games Workshop runs it's business. Half of 40K is totally a ripoff of Starcraft, just as nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft. Blizzard should totes sue them.

you actually got it backwards.

GW was going to make 40k games with Blizzard, but backed out of the deal. Blizzard then took some of the basic ideas and Starcraft was born.

Fantesy isn't a rip off of WoW, simply because just about every Fantesy game/book is a rip off of Lord of the Rings. you can't rip off a rip off. and GW has the rights to the spelling of Ork with a K.

Grey Templar wrote:

Ouze wrote:

Eberious wrote:Keep forgetting to say this since the first glimpes of the SR were floating around. The SR really looks like a gunship I saw on another game. Was something like starcraft but not 100% sure. Was on a youtube music fan vid and saw about 1.5 seconds of it, yeah I know vague as hell right.

But keep thinking GW may of ripped it off another company, one of those they take to the cleaners.

Well, that's kind of how Games Workshop runs it's business. Half of 40K is totally a ripoff of Starcraft, just as nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft. Blizzard should totes sue them.

you actually got it backwards.

GW was going to make 40k games with Blizzard, but backed out of the deal. Blizzard then took some of the basic ideas and Starcraft was born.

Fantesy isn't a rip off of WoW, simply because just about every Fantesy game/book is a rip off of Lord of the Rings. you can't rip off a rip off. and GW has the rights to the spelling of Ork with a K.

You need to check the batteries in your sarcasm-meter. Althhough, technically I think he was being facetious.

sorry, sarcasm meter doesn't have E-app yet

that, and i have to deal with Starcraft fans who actually think 40k IS a rip off

nearly all of Warhammer Fantasy is a shameless ripoff of World of Warcraft.

That completely ridiculous and fallacious statement has come up many times over the years. Warhammer was created in the mid-1980's, long before MMORPG or even the original Warcraft computer game. Warcraft from its beginning was a blatant rip-off of Warhammer, albeit a really well-done one, that is, if you liked chopping wood. A friend let me try the original Warcraft once, I was not into chopping and collecting wood and didn't buy it. I still buy Warhammer models though.

All fantasy games owe a debt to Lord of the Rings, including the first popular one, Dungeons & Dragons. All games after D&D owe a debt to it, it was highly influential on every fantasy game to come after it, including Warhammer.

Lowering the flying stand for the Stormraven may lower it's visibility to others, but the reverse is also true, thereby reducing it's ability to see and target enemy models. Funny how that usually gets overlooked. The laws of physics are out the window in most of 40K, but not so much in the line of sight rules.

Grey Templar wrote:sorry, sarcasm meter doesn't have E-app yet

that, and i have to deal with Starcraft fans who actually think 40k IS a rip off

Reminds me of a kid i hit accross the back of the head in a nightclub, Dj puts on sweet dreams by Eurythmics, some little dipstick goes "Who's this b*tch ripping of marilyn manson?"
he's lucky i stopped with a quick clip!

As for the stormraven...meh i got to see it first hand on saturday and i'm not impressed. its boxy, its ugly and its poorly conceived. i've seen better scratch builds.

Melonfish wrote:

Grey Templar wrote:sorry, sarcasm meter doesn't have E-app yet

that, and i have to deal with Starcraft fans who actually think 40k IS a rip off

Reminds me of a kid i hit accross the back of the head in a nightclub, Dj puts on sweet dreams by Eurythmics, some little dipstick goes "Who's this b*tch ripping of marilyn manson?"
he's lucky i stopped with a quick clip!

As for the stormraven...meh i got to see it first hand on saturday and i'm not impressed. its boxy, its ugly and its poorly conceived. i've seen better scratch builds.

Shouldn't of stopped

Personally, I dig it. It looks like typical Imperial aviation design; It's not aerodynamic enough to fly, strap more engines to it until it does. I like it!

I agree, when you look at pics of the thunderhawk it looks just as clunky and impossible to get off the ground as this does, but then a bumblebee is not supposed to be able to fly either. At any rate, I can't wait to LOOT one for the boyz, i can just picture a squished grot in the landing gear, and a boy with a big shoota standing at the side doors popping off shots at any errant guardsman who stick their heads up.

niallkissick wrote:Yeh, all the weight is in the back of the model, i took some photos this morning, i'll try and post them after work.

Followed instructions to the letter, currently i had no turret on the top so this may be causing the unbalancing issues.

You've got the piece that attachs to the hull upside down!

Eberious wrote:and heres that vid I was on about. Came across it by chance.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=0VrRwHtIGMw&NR=1

Skip to 2 min 12 secs and watch for the quick flash. Move the engines to the back where the are on the SR and presto copyright avoided. I don't really care just thought the two were very very alike.

Emperors_Champion wrote:

niallkissick wrote:Yeh, all the weight is in the back of the model, i took some photos this morning, i'll try and post them after work.

Followed instructions to the letter, currently i had no turret on the top so this may be causing the unbalancing issues.

You've got the piece that attachs to the hull upside down!

Noooooooooooooooooo!!!!!