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I'm not making anything 'worse', I'm just pointing out that you don't get to dictate rules on a thread.

Ok ok. I don't dictate but I am helping the Dakka Dakka community become more of a success rather than a failure.

Didn't you make a thread about how your friend should stop changing armies? Bit hypocritical don't you think?

Lord of Baal,
I see why you're a bit frustrated, but here's the thing.

You came on Dakka and put up a thread asking a very greenhorn question in a slightly troolish manner. When confronted with this fact and an abundance of evidence and opinion to the contrary, you simply restated your point (see my previous post calling you a troll).

If you do that on Dakka, you are going to get spanked a bit. Don't take it personally. Learn from it, laugh it off and next time you post a potentially contentious thread, study up on the topic so you know what you're talking about and/or be ready for more of the same.

Lord of Baal wrote:Yeah I would agree with Eilif, and I think every body doesn't care weather you use army painter or not. Whatever, I withdraw my case.

OR you could continue to troll the thread you started wit a deliberately inflammatory topic heading and try to get cute now that you've been called out. Sometimes when you stick your neck out your head gets chopped off, ask the French. Best to quietly fade into obscurity, again: see France

Lord of Baal wrote:Ok ok. My bad. Next time I will look at how other people paint differently, and there is no need to bad mouth about army painter. Looks kinda good too. My friend could really use it. And do you think that "voting graphic" thing is really helping Dakka Dakka's community? Aren't you a DCM? For a jolly good sake, be encouraging to the site, be always polite, and remember, have fun! Don't worry, your outside social problems shouldn't effect the way you post on Dakka Dakka. Cheer up, I only wanted to see what peoples opinions were.

Lord of Baal wrote:Ok ok. I get it. I am just saying I created it. Look at yourself, your not improving anything, your only making things worse.
And Infinite Array, please don't bully me anymore.

Lord of Baal wrote:Well every one has a opinion right? A thread is aloud to have an opinion. I should be able to have one as well. Please don't be egotistical, the world doesn't revolve around just you. Maybe the Sun, don't you think? Remember, threads are aloud to have opinions, just not "off topic spam". Thanks, and help Dakka Dakka's community!

Lord of Baal wrote:Is that a good way to be encouraging? I think not. Please stop being mean, join together as one community. Here, I even mad A wall to separate our differences.
This side is for thou who like to argue
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And this side is for thou who would like to help Dakka Dakka's community! Join the fun with a good old post!

coolyo294 wrote:Didn't you make a thread about how your friend should stop changing armies? Bit hypocritical don't you think?

He was also the guy who started the half dozen threads proclaiming how awesome the Dark Angels were.

And Eilif's got it right. Most people on Dakka have a level of snark, which then translates to either funny or confrontational. For the most part, we get a few laughs out of everything, but there can be times when the snark-factor gets out of control (look back a few months, when the White Knights of the Dark Empire fought against the Semi-Collective Grognard Resistance).

Best to form your snark armor now, young one, or your days will be filled with woe, misery, and sweaty armpits from replying to what appears to be a never ending torrent of seemingly personal attacks.

infinite_array wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Didn't you make a thread about how your friend should stop changing armies? Bit hypocritical don't you think?

He was also the guy who started the half dozen threads proclaiming how awesome the Dark Angels were.

And Eilif's got it right. Most people on Dakka have a level of snark, which then translates to either funny or confrontational. For the most part, we get a few laughs out of everything, but there can be times when the snark-factor gets out of control (look back a few months, when the White Knights of the Dark Empire fought against the Semi-Collective Grognard Resistance).

Best to form your snark armor now, young one, or your days will be filled with woe, misery, and sweaty armpits from replying to what appears to be a never ending torrent of seemingly personal attacks.

Or, consider each post you make before hitting the "Submit" button. Ask yourself the following questions:
* Will this cause someone to get upset?
* Will this offend someone?
* Am I being confrontational?
* Am I trying to assert something as fact, which it really is just my own opinion?
* Am I trying to justify/push my own opinions/beliefs? (This thread falls under this category.)
* Is it actually important that I make this post? (Or, am I making a new thread just because I can/I'm bored?)
* Did I write this post while upset/sad/angry/hurt/defensive? (Past few posts.)

If the answer to any of these questions is "yes", I highly recommend not posting to begin with. And I follow these tenets myself, as I personally do not like confrontation and arguments.

If you break one of these tenets, post something stupid and get flamed for it, or find yourself in the middle of an argument - then stop. Wait an hour or two. Think about what you want to say, and try to say it in a way that will offend as few people as possible, or head off any additional confrontations. If you realize you've screwed up, then just apologize, and don't try to shift blame/focus onto your attackers in the same post. Just let it slide. Remember, the more you post when the thread/mood is confrontational, the more opportunity you are giving them to lace into you. It's important to get the mood back to neutral as quickly as possible, instead of perpetuating it.

CiaranAnnrach wrote:

infinite_array wrote:

coolyo294 wrote:Didn't you make a thread about how your friend should stop changing armies? Bit hypocritical don't you think?

He was also the guy who started the half dozen threads proclaiming how awesome the Dark Angels were.

And Eilif's got it right. Most people on Dakka have a level of snark, which then translates to either funny or confrontational. For the most part, we get a few laughs out of everything, but there can be times when the snark-factor gets out of control (look back a few months, when the White Knights of the Dark Empire fought against the Semi-Collective Grognard Resistance).

Best to form your snark armor now, young one, or your days will be filled with woe, misery, and sweaty armpits from replying to what appears to be a never ending torrent of seemingly personal attacks.

Or, consider each post you make before hitting the "Submit" button. Ask yourself the following questions:
* Will this cause someone to get upset?
* Will this offend someone?
* Am I being confrontational?
* Am I trying to assert something as fact, which it really is just my own opinion?
* Am I trying to justify/push my own opinions/beliefs? (This thread falls under this category.)
* Is it actually important that I make this post? (Or, am I making a new thread just because I can/I'm bored?)
* Did I write this post while upset/sad/angry/hurt/defensive? (Past few posts.)

If the answer to any of these questions is "yes", I highly recommend not posting to begin with. And I follow these tenets myself, as I personally do not like confrontation and arguments.

If you break one of these tenets, post something stupid and get flamed for it, or find yourself in the middle of an argument - then stop. Wait an hour or two. Think about what you want to say, and try to say it in a way that will offend as few people as possible, or head off any additional confrontations. If you realize you've screwed up, then just apologize, and don't try to shift blame/focus onto your attackers in the same post. Just let it slide. Remember, the more you post when the thread/mood is confrontational, the more opportunity you are giving them to lace into you. It's important to get the mood back to neutral as quickly as possible, instead of perpetuating it.

Disregard this, yell "WAAAAAGH" hit submit and get stuck in.

Lord of Baal wrote:Thanks, I'm Still a kid, I'v got lots to learn!

Really the thread should have ended here.

Yeah, when a person considers any slightly negative comment about his threads "bullying" they probably need some seasoning.

Polonius wrote:Yeah, when a person considers any slightly negative comment about his threads "bullying" they probably need some seasoning.

And I didn't even get to the tar and feathers, or even the 'superglue down the pants' routine.

I will, however, be taking your lunch money. You know, GW's prices and all that.

Lord of Baal wrote:Ok ok. But don't you agree that it's unfair in painting comps?

No, it is a method of painting, if somebody is painting better than you using the dipping method, try to emulate them.

Lord of Baal wrote:Ok ok. I get it. I am just saying I created it. Look at yourself, your not improving anything, your only making things worse.
And Infinite Array, please don't bully me anymore.

Wow... That is hysterical.

Welcome to the internet my son. Pull up a chair and sit down. We need to have "the talk".

Can you get chlamydia from the internets?

AustonT wrote:Can you get chlamydia from the internets?

From as awful a thread as this? Mayhaps...

Personal opinion, this thread needs to get closed.

Main reason: Every time someone comes up with a different opinion, Lord of Baal takes the contrary opinion, just to keep the thread going. He's against army painter, ok it's great, its cheating, its ok, my friend should use it, it's cheating, etc.

Norsehawk wrote:Personal opinion, this thread needs to get closed.

Main reason: Every time someone comes up with a different opinion, Lord of Baal takes the contrary opinion, just to keep the thread going. He's against army painter, ok it's great, its cheating, its ok, my friend should use it, it's cheating, etc.

Secondary reason: Most of his other threads are similar.
Motion seconded, I call the vote.
Should sad thread costumed as something bright and shiny be closed?


But before it goes, I'd just like to chuck out that Minwax wood finish has replaced gryphonne sepia in my arsenal of paint. Its totally fair.

OHH which minwax? I've been trying to match Gryphonne Sepia with a version of Les' washes forever.

Special Walnut 224.
Penetrates, Stains & Seals my friend. 8 Fluid ounces for the same cost as a pot of gryphonne.

I don't dip though, preferring to paint it onto the model. Gives me more control to get the painting effect I want. It does fill me with a modicum of shame every single time though, knowing I'm not blending three colors to get the same effect.

This is a pretty epic thread for such a stupid question.

Oh,oh, before the thread get's closed can I shamelessly plug my latest "Cheating" dipped figs...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/389699.page

Eilif wrote:Oh,oh, before the thread get's closed can I shamelessly plug my latest "Cheating" dipped figs...

http://www.dakkadakka.com/dakkaforum/posts/list/389699.page

First image return from a standard google search:

Sigh, this thread should be locked.

I don't understand what all the debate is about. If a fig looks good, it's good.

On the flip side I have figs in my collection that I spent hours painting and they look like dog poop.

Sidstyler wrote:...I think everyone's tanks should be covered in thick paint with ugly brush strokes like mine are.

I lol'd at work. Awesome.



Ghidorah

there is no such thing in painting as being "unfair". I've seen how dipping comes out, and while I wouldn't do it myself, I wouldn't say it's "wrong" or "cheating". I just know that I am one of those people that prefers to spend time levelling up his painting skill(I'm a bit of an artistic sort). If I didn't like painting all that much, and just wanted a good-looking army, I'd certainly use whatever was easiest for me. Some people don't like painting, and I'm not going to, you know, pull the plug on the good-looking models they want to use. It's much better to play with finished armies, anyway, it improves the dice rolls.

sennacherib wrote:Wow. really insaniak. that is crazy. Around here the best you can expect would be to face a lot of grumbling about how unpainted armies look like junk.

What is awesome is that I often seen paint-natzis give out endless amounts of crap because other people's armies do not meet their standards, and they go on and on about the visual importance of painted armies, and wanting to "immerse" themselves visually, yet they play on utterly boring and horrible looking tables with crap terrain...

I especially like the tournaments that make such a big deal about painting, and then when you see pics of the event the tables/terrain look like they came out of a dogs ass...

Lord of Baal wrote:Ok ok. My bad. Next time I will look at how other people paint differently, and there is no need to bad mouth about army painter. Looks kinda good too. My friend could really use it. And do you think that "voting graphic" thing is really helping Dakka Dakka's community? Aren't you a DCM? For a jolly good sake, be encouraging to the site, be always polite, and remember, have fun! Don't worry, your outside social problems shouldn't effect the way you post on Dakka Dakka. Cheer up, I only wanted to see what peoples opinions were.

No need to be passive-aggressive with the little snark about people's outside social problems. After all, you're the 13-year-old troll here who has been trying to stir the pot, so perhaps you're the one with outside social problems. Low self-esteem perhaps? Now you're crying that people are bullying you. All your crap about being polite and helping the community? You're as transparent as they come. Kid, if you were posting on a bunch of other forums I spend time on, you'd have been banned as a troll long ago. Just be grateful that Dakka seems to be (over) tolerant of trolls like yourself.

Anyway, I need to buy some army painter now. Going to give it a go on some GW spiders to make them look as horrid, slimy and just awful as possible.

Haha! Hilarious, scipio.au, he's gone for a while though, so he won't be trolling for at least a week. Oh, and hes 12. Ya, He is lucky that Dakka is tolerant.

How do you know he's gone?