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mxwllmdr wrote:Nope, it sucks. Start again.......

















I am, of course, kidding. Keep going, you....

Damn...
*Tosses out*

Well take two!


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Viktor von Domm wrote:ok...granted... the MK III helemt is one of the cooler variants of the SM helmet design...but...the beaky is always my favorite!!! can´t beat that!
tho on second thought it gots no rivets on...hmm...

you started a good job! will you sand later on the rough spots? or how will you move on from that? and how will you add the other details? nice project...and welcome to the club of peeps that start too many projects^^...

oh and how will you do the rivets on that helmet? perhaps some cut up rods?...and how big is that hemlet anyway?...

I never actually liked beaky....
I thought that the Mk III although not my actual favorite offered alot to work from as a base.
It's made out of clay so I'm keeping it draped with a damp cloth. That stops it from hardening. It'll firm up before tonight so that I can smooth alittle. But I can still all detail and even out the sides more...

And it a "Knight Helm" and WILL be coated in rivets..
Within reason....

Maybe dunk head in glue and then in a bowl of rivets???

That wouldn't ruin it would it???


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Rogue Wolves wrote:i think its looking nice so far, i would just pull the head down a bit more, as it is a tad rounded when the helm is more square

How do you mean? More forward like?
Like he's looking more down then this position?

Sculpting is an entirely different skillset than building. Michelangelo (and others) have said "just look at the raw material and visualize your sculpture and bring it out" - I don't get that myself.

Oh, I use that approach to make my scratchbuilt tanks and other crazy ideas, I visualize the the plastic, or GS and let my hands work instinctively.

I can visualise what I want to make..
The problem tends to me letting it flow.
So thats what I'm working on now..
Who cares if I make a complete flop out of it I'm learning to let it out and hopefully if I'm lucky it'll work.

It looks good so far!

I haven't worked with clay since ruining an ashtray and a mug in Highschool! I hated it. Horrid stuff. Dried my hands out so bad they cracked and bled. But you can obviously do more with it than I can, so good job! The only part that I don't like so far is the curve in the face plate below the eyes. But it's not done yet, so I will wait to see how it progresses.

Don't get me wrong, I can "see" what I want it to look like, but it rarely ever turns out that way in the end.

made out of clay so I'm keeping it draped with a damp cloth. That stops it from hardening. It'll firm up before tonight so that I can smooth alittle. But I can still all detail and even out the sides more...

good idea!!! never thought about doing it that way...but that is the best thing to do!!!


oh and ...make the rivets but don´t roll´em on... sounds like a new version of riveting...but i am afraid with this bakery version you wont stand a chance in the league...lol...

Viktor von Domm wrote:ok...granted... the MK III helemt is one of the cooler variants of the SM helmet design...but...the beaky is always my favorite!!! can´t beat that!
tho on second thought it gots no rivets on...hmm...

Beaky is THE coolest of all the helmets ever made imo.. But as you said.. It lacks rivets.. :/



Nice work on the helm there! looks great!

can you slice a rod of GS without crimping the ends?

my favorite helm is the mark IV armor one

SilverHayabusa wrote:I can visualise what I want to make..
The problem tends to me letting it flow.
So thats what I'm working on now..
Who cares if I make a complete flop out of it I'm learning to let it out and hopefully if I'm lucky it'll work.

Excellent! That is the spirit!

@Dave. Well to be fair and honest, the original ideas I had for the tanks changed as the tanks sort of worked themselves out as it were.

Okay so was busy yesturday setting up for a huge presentation that was this morning so I'm am sorry that their was no updates...
But I'm home now and have done some work to the head!
I raised it so that it nolonger looks like he's looking off into space..

Looking good! I like the eyes!

Can you get a shot with a ruler or something for scale?

So Big! Nice! The vents are looking good!

One side of the head looks good!
I can never get things to line up right...

Oh well. I will keep at it...

I wanted to use up some of the mass amounts of clay that I have... However this only used like 2% of it....

I might have to make a larger one....?

No, that will be a cool size. you will just have to make the rest of the Marine when you get the helmet done!


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Can you imagine the size of the table these guys would have to play on?

Oh my... That would be huge....
Like 40' x 60'...

That would make me cry to try and build...
But it would be AWESOME!!!

Nah...with "heroic" proportions, he'd only be around 16" tall or so. It would be AWESOME!

Oh, the table...yeah, maybe 40 to 60'. You still should do it!

You wouldn't need to "build" the table, we'd play outside! REAL terrain!

OKAY so with this head as a 'base' I would have to make him...
How tall?

And this being that I want the marines to be art scale.. (Or whatever it's called)
Ohhh... *Drool* This would be EPIC

I want to do this....

Ok, this is really rough as I don't know these things very well, so if someone has better info, please correct me.

Let's say a space marine's helmet is 10 inches from top to neck. Your sculpture looks to be about 1-1/2 inches, for a scale factor of 1 to 6.7 roughly.

A "True/Art Scale" Space Marine is what, 7'6" (90 inches) tall? So, your's will have to be about 13.4 inches (or around 340 mm) to the top of his head. If I did the maths right.

Holy crapperz in a ....

My thought thus is...
Where would I store my army???

Just think of adding in a dreadnought... That would be massive... no wonder gamesworkshop whent with 28mm....

ooooooO! Dreadnought! AWESOME! It's be like 4 feet tall! You'd need a warehouse to store them and a football field to play!

All you need is a millionare to sponsor you! It'll be an expensive army, even if you made it all yourself.

It might be cheaper to build costumes and LARP

OOOOOooooo Larp...
Na! Not cool enough..
I think I should just make a true scale set and mold them...
...
Yea...
That would be cool...

*Goes to look up more on true scale marines...*


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Although!
My local gamesworkshop said that if I could make a real bolter I could work there...

They said they would fire the new guy..
So the one thats been there 3 years....
They never leave...

wow...that helmet sure is huge! and i see...you added already quite some details for it!

and yep...if you see this through at least this one marine should get a body...! ...

Hell yeah, just having the one would be an awesome show piece on a desk!

And make a real bolter? Like one that could fire real rounds? That would be something to see too!

if he could built that...why become a redshirt... lol...everyone knows they die first time they can say a whole sentence

Me no wanna die..

I hadn't thought about that....
I wonder if 1" = 1'-0" would be a good enough size for a desktop marine...
Or 2" = 1'-0"...

Comments?

try talking in cm and i chime in^^